The "What Are You Thinking About Right Now?" PIP

[Jade Bahr]

^The only person you should trusted on movies is yourself. Just an idea

 

[Enrico_sw]

^ Yep and I trust myself that I don't want to waste 2 hours of my life (and 15€) on this spiteful movie

 

BTW, the only person you should trust to understand the history of men/women relationship is yourself (and not the media). Just an idea

 

[Enrico_sw]

And I suggest you watch this movie next (just to make your own opinion of course )

 

This is real cinema.

Spoiler

 

 

 

[Anasxs]

Hoping my new boyfriend couple future husband Christian Grey buy me someday not only an Audi A3 (now is cheaper ) I hope he starts with old Disney books, La Gaviota editorial, Beauty sleeper, Cinderella and Little Mermaid 😋 for my own private library

 

 

[Anasxs]

20 hours ago, AnatasiaSteele82 said:

Hoping my new boyfriend couple future husband Christian Grey buy me someday not only an Audi A3 (now is cheaper ) I hope he starts with old Disney books, La Gaviota editorial, Beauty sleeper, Cinderella and Little Mermaid 😋 for my own private library

 

 

Or, in normal Spanish (not Argentina or another hispanic dialect) formato, the books "Darker" and "Freed" from EL James

[Anasxs]

I want to watch "Freud". I afraid about the males theories about envy and submission, I am feminist heterosexual and when males adopt that theories are very dangerous, violent... Forget all the person, face, body, personality and give too power to the sexual member of anathomy is big not, maybe watch that theories can be a nightmare... 

[Prettyphile]

Well........

 

[Prettyphile]

" Within the next month or so you'll start to see some federal employees being required to wear masks, then by October they're going to start saying "well maybe you should be wearing them for some things" by Dec full blown lock down"

 

Right on time. "It’s crazy how these new variants seem to align with election cycles"

I refuse to be scared of the flu, I'm not getting a clot shot, nothing wearing a fucking chin diaper, and I'd rather be fired from my job then go through this bullshit again.

 

 

[Enrico_sw]

Here goes, for the rest of the conversation

 

On 8/15/2023 at 3:55 PM, Jade Bahr said:

Then there is a whole existing indie section next to the giant mainstream landscape (even in Hollywood).

 

I love Indie productions (not just in movies, but also video games or music). The thing with good movies is that they can be costly and it's an oligopoly (Hollywood has the dominant player – with big studios – and the rest as the competitive fringe). It's hard for the fringe to fight, which is less the case in video games and really really less the case for music (anyone can do good music, they'll just lack the marketing campaigns, but word of mouth can be very efficient.

 

On 8/15/2023 at 3:55 PM, Jade Bahr said:

Of course I could give you a list of movies and shows I like and watch but in the end of the day it's also a matter of personal taste I think.

 

Fair enough. I like action, sci-fi and adventure movies (which are very costly to produce...)

When I was a kid, masterpieces were released every couple of months. Not any more.

 

On 8/15/2023 at 3:55 PM, Jade Bahr said:

Also I don't think just because big studios and their CEOs like netflix, amazon, disney, paramount etc making some very questionable decisions based on lots of money lately (or maybe even since the beginning of money) doesn't mean all of their movies and shows are bad in general.

 

It's not about the money. It's about the “cult” mentality (wokism) that reigns over Hollywood. Ideology dumbs people down.
 

[Enrico_sw]

Follow-up

 

 

On 8/15/2023 at 3:55 PM, Jade Bahr said:

Some maybe but show me the decade which brought us only masterpieces and/or good changes.

 

The 00s (and the 90s to some extent).

 

On 8/15/2023 at 3:55 PM, Jade Bahr said:

I mean the time of stereotypes of racism and minorities (like the whole lgbtq+ community or people with disabilities) wasn't great either no?

 

Could you be more specific? Are we talking about movies or history?

 

If it's history, there are many things to say about how homosexuality was treated in history. In Ancient Greece/Rome, gay people were recognized and it was fully accepted. Then in the rest of history, it's an oscillation between uphill and downhill moments. But it's not: past is bad, modern days are great.

 

If it's the movies, gay people were better treated in the 90s and 00s than now, where they are treated like tokens.

 

On 8/15/2023 at 3:55 PM, Jade Bahr said:

The time of trivializing violence against women.

 

When did we trivialize violence against women in the West?? Never.

You could say India or Saudi Arabia trivialize these violences... but it's not even in their movies either! People can't trivialize violence in movies that are supposed to (most of the time) show some ideal.

[Enrico_sw]

Follow-up

 

On 8/15/2023 at 3:55 PM, Jade Bahr said:

The time of role models of hard working men and perfect dressed cooking women just waiting for her husbands coming home in -well- basically every century just to name a few past issues.

 

This corresponds to the 1st half of the 20th century. This was never the case in any other centuries. First, because for thousands of years, the main job for the workforce was farming (a very hard job at the time - men/women were in the fields and women were lucky when they could take a break and do house chores).

 

The patriarchy is a fantasy about the past that wokism has invented out of thin air. History books don't show such caricature except for a tiny period (1st half of 20th century give or take - maybe you could say 1850 to 1980 if you wanted to be broader, but not before or after).

[Enrico_sw]

@Jade Bahr If you want a broad summary of my last post, this meme is closer to reality than the "patriarchy myth"

(though it's not perfect either)

 

In reality, for thousands of years, society was divided in:

- a tiny ruling class (where men tended to have the upper hand - though not always)

- the rest of the population who were way below (I don't think men were below women like it's shown in this graph, because both men/women had their struggles, but men had lives full of hardships, because of: working in the fields, fighting against nature, wars, etc. => you can't call that a patriarchy).

 

Caution: It's a very broad scheme and reality is way more complex, but this is way more accurate than: "we've been in a patriarchy for zillions of years and now women are liberated". This patriarchy myth is completely disproved by history.

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9 hours ago, Prettyphile said:

Well........

 

 

 

 

He is claiming that she was with 57 different men over the past 10+ years but a lot of the photos appear to be with fans or photoshopped.  I definitely recall quite a few posted on her BZ thread but more like 7 or so.  I don't really follow her very much though.  She was extremely social.

 

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[Jade Bahr]

@Enrico_sw how is the patriarchy a myth when women weren't allowed to vote, go to school and/or study, to choose whatever job they wanted, which man they married (and even more important when she got married all her possession belonged now officially to the husband even their children), or god forbid having a sexual relationship without being married - all of this until the 20th century and very much also in the west.

 

Maybe the definition of patriarchy and feminism is different between us.

[Anasxs]

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4 hours ago, Jade Bahr said:

Maybe the definition of patriarchy and feminism 

 

I guess that's the price women have to pay for not having to do serious life-shortening work throughout human history.  Trade-offs.

 

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16 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:

men had lives full of hardships, because of: working in the fields, fighting against nature, wars, etc. => you can't call that a patriarchy).

 

 

The whole war in Ukraine has a horizontal aspect that is obvious if you look at the Anti-West media of Asia & Africa, a bit of the 'blue collar' "3rd/developing countries' vs. the decadent white collar garden "The West".   Many peoples of these countries want NATO to fail mainly because they are tired of being economically exploited by the West as poorly paid back-breaking laborers at the low-end of the value chain.

 

So the whole envy-resentment chain is not just gender but in class warfare LOL.

[Prettyphile]

I've never been a huge fan of country, doesn't go with the aesthetics after all, I gotta say this song is fire🔥 As a White Californian spooky goth gal who's relocated to the Dirty South I felt EVERY word and agree. Stay strapped fam.

 

@phenobarbie @Enrico_sw @COP11 @Stromboli1

 

[Enrico_sw]

33 minutes ago, Prettyphile said:

I've never been a huge fan of country, doesn't go with the aesthetics after all, I gotta say this song is fire🔥 As a White Californian spooky goth gal who's relocated to the Dirty South I felt EVERY word and agree. Stay strapped fam.

 

@phenobarbie @Enrico_sw @COP11 @Stromboli1

 

 

 

This song is great!  It kinda reminds me of this one:

 

[Enrico_sw]

8 hours ago, Jade Bahr said:

@Enrico_sw how is the patriarchy a myth when women weren't allowed to vote, go to school and/or study, to choose whatever job they wanted, which man they married (and even more important when she got married all her possession belonged now officially to the husband even their children), or god forbid having a sexual relationship without being married - all of this until the 20th century and very much also in the west.

 

Maybe the definition of patriarchy and feminism is different between us.

 

Before the 1800s, most men were not allowed to vote, go to school or study, they couldn't choose their jobs, they did not choose their wives (the village would organise that). Most of men were field workers. The average guy couldn't even read...

 

You are talking about a short period of time throughout history mid 19th to mid 20th century more or less), but history started 5 000 years ago (and homo sapiens 300 000+ years ago).

 

Look at history books, I know you're a conscientious person.