Stormbringer Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 33 minutes ago, Stromboli1 said: In your eyes there are no races and only the "Human Race", so how is she a racist? There is no contradiction in Kiki's statement. Quote
Stromboli1 Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, Stormbringer said: There is no contradiction in Kiki's statement. It stems from Kiki's ideological & cultural views in different threads. Quote
Stormbringer Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Just now, Stromboli1 said: It stems from Kiki's ideological & cultural views in different threads. And there's still no contradiction. Quote
Stromboli1 Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Just now, Stormbringer said: And there's still no contradiction. There is. We can agree to disagree. Quote
PinkCouture Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Yes there is only one race...the human race. However there are many people who would disagree with that fact, and they think certain races are more superior/inferior. Even some who claim they believe there is only one race contradicts themselves in their actions and behaviors (not you Kiki). When it comes down to it, it's about ego, being power hungry and an excuse to project blame onto others instead of accepting [some] personal responsibility. Quote
ILUVAdrianaLima Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, PinkCouture said: Yes there is only one race...the human race. However there are many people who would disagree with that fact, and they think certain races are more superior/inferior. Even some who claim they believe there is only one race contradicts themselves in their actions and behaviors (not you Kiki). When it comes down to it, it's about ego, being power hungry and an excuse to project blame onto others instead of accepting [some] personal responsibility. +1 Quote
ILUVAdrianaLima Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, Stormbringer said: And there's still no contradiction. +1 again! Quote
Stormbringer Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 Allow me Pinky to do a small alteration to the quote... 2 minutes ago, PinkCouture said: 1. Yes there is only one race...the human race. 2. However there are many people who would disagree with that fact, and they think certain races are more superior/inferior. 2 -> The definition of racist/racism. Agreeing with 1 does not make 2 inexistent, and the word racist still applies for those in 2. Quote
PinkCouture Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stormbringer said: Allow me Pinky to do a small alteration to the quote... 2 -> The definition of racist/racism. Agreeing with 1 does not make 2 inexistent, and the word racist still applies for those in 2. I agree. Let's be honest. Almost everyone is racist to a certain degree. It is part of what we are taught living in this society, and it is important to acknowledge & accept this. However, it is one's actions and behaviors based on those views & opinions that is the determining factor of whether something crosses the line of appropriateness. Quote
gotportugal Posted May 7, 2017 Posted May 7, 2017 1 hour ago, elfstone said: I believe 35 is also the proportion of unemployed youth in Portugal. Or at least it was until 2 years ago. Dont you have your own version of Le Pen yet? Thank god we don't. Our youth unemployment is only getting better now at 26,5%. Our general unemployment is for the first time this month, below 10%. Really good for us considering Spain is still in the 20s, and our unemployement was once in the 16s. Far-right movements have considerably failed to have any traction here and none of our centre-right parties have expressed anything but condenation for Trump; Le Pen; Brexit, as they are all Pro-EU. The Far-left is the one against the EU Quote
frenchkiki Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 5 hours ago, elfstone said: Do you hate the human race as such? In other words, are you a progressive racist? What? Quote
Stromboli1 Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 @frenchkiki What do you think of the menu for dinner & dessert? Quote
frenchkiki Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 4 hours ago, Stromboli1 said: There is. We can agree to disagree. No. Racism is the Conviction that one can categorize human beings into a series of races based on scientific physical criteria, especially when accompanied by a conscious or unconscious hierarchy between these races (Kikipedia). Marine LePen was raised by a father whom believe in that. And she thinks the same. She is a racist. Your menu sounds good. But no broccoli I am a broccolist! 4 hours ago, Stormbringer said: Allow me Pinky to do a small alteration to the quote... 2 -> The definition of racist/racism. Agreeing with 1 does not make 2 inexistent, and the word racist still applies for those in 2. Quote
frenchkiki Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 4 hours ago, ILUVAdrianaLima said: +1 4 hours ago, PinkCouture said: Yes there is only one race...the human race. However there are many people who would disagree with that fact, and they think certain races are more superior/inferior. Even some who claim they believe there is only one race contradicts themselves in their actions and behaviors (not you Kiki). When it comes down to it, it's about ego, being power hungry and an excuse to project blame onto others instead of accepting [some] personal responsibility. +2 Quote
Stromboli1 Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, frenchkiki said: No. Racism is the Conviction that one can categorize human beings into a series of races based on scientific physical criteria, especially when accompanied by a conscious or unconscious hierarchy between these races (Kikipedia). Marine LePen was raised by a father whom believe in that. And she thinks the same. She is a racist. I was talking about your thinking rather than Marine LePen. LePen is probably what you say she is. 8 minutes ago, frenchkiki said: Your menu sounds good. But no broccoli I am a broccolist! No broccoli. I will make you some that you will enjoy. There will be NO CHEESE on the broccoli I make, that's for sissies & cheaters. I guess asparagus will do. Quote
frenchkiki Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 No really no broccoli And who the hell is putting cheese on broccoli? Really I don't know what other word to use for that woman. He doesn't change what I think about "races" < Bullshit! Quote
Stromboli1 Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 28 minutes ago, frenchkiki said: No really no broccoli And who the hell is putting cheese on broccoli? Americans love putting cheese on broccoli, it is disgusting. It's basically cheese with a little broccoli. 28 minutes ago, frenchkiki said: Really I don't know what other word to use for that woman. He doesn't change what I think about "races" < Bullshit! I'm arguing semantics with you and only you over your usage of racist when you think there is only one (human) race. Xenophobic would be more applicable in your case. I don't understand that. Maybe I'm a moron .......... Well dinner will be interesting, but this won't be the only thing we talk about........ besides talking politics is boring. Quote
Cult Icon Posted May 8, 2017 Author Posted May 8, 2017 Christy's driving home to our family after that..in her Enviro- Hummer Quote
SympathysSilhouette Posted May 8, 2017 Posted May 8, 2017 16 hours ago, frenchkiki said: Hillary and Marine has nothing in common. Marine LePen and Trump yes. Marine Le Pen engaged in negationism just in the last month! Hillary and her are nothing alike, the comparison is insulting, even if you really hate Hillary Clinton. Quote
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