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[Miss Bathory]

If she was the kinda of person who always on social midia. FOR SURE she would gain a lot of more followers on instagram..

[Souled-Out]

4 hours ago, Miss Bathory said:

If she was the kinda of person who always on social midia. FOR SURE she would gain a lot of more followers on instagram..

 

Yes, her instagram posts are getting ALOT of likes. Like ALOT. No other supermodel is doing that right now except for the hadids, which makes sense because they are more young and popular. Sometimes when Gisele takes a very good photo, she may reach the amount adriana is reaching now. But other than that, no other model in her age range is pulling those kind of numbers. The fact that its only GISELE who can compete with adriana's social media engagement right now shows what a household name Adriana is and how popular she is right now. Sheesh. Adriana def got a more years left in her for modelling, people still are interested in her

[laeteita]

Mia Armstrong mentioned Adriana in her interview (yet she hasn't shared any photos together)

 

https://www.nylon.com/fashion/mia-armstrong-victorias-secret-fashion-show-backstage-interview

 

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This is your first VS show. Who are some of your favorite veteran VS models?

Growing up, I always thought Adriana Lima was the most beautiful woman in the world! But I loved her more after I heard her speak. She has this energy and passion, and most importantly power that I looked up to.

 

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Brands using their social media to praise Adriana for her presence at the VS fashion show, don't be shy, give her a makeup/beauty contract LOL. And other positive comments

 

I am so happy for Adriana, she truly deserves the majority positive response she recieved

[nhlovesadri]

Her VS show announcement is the most watched VS official account video ever, by far, 22 million views rn, the other most watched ones don't even reach 10 millions.

[nhlovesadri]

6 minutes ago, nhlovesadri said:

Her VS show announcement is the most watched VS official account video ever, by far, 22 million views rn, the other most watched ones don't even reach 10 millions.

My bad, I ignored the fixed videos on their account, but the 70 million one from the show is about her anyway so the point stands.

[XSS]

All right. I am done for the Marc Jacob’s, C&A and Vogue Spain. where are the new campaigns and covers? Serve it up now!

[Miss Bathory]

Do you guys know, why she left Maybelline?

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7 hours ago, Miss Bathory said:

Do you guys know, why she left Maybelline?

 

No but it happened in 2020 though. ALOT going on that year and the next like 2 years after that

[laeteita]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DBbjZtGOZgu/

It says last 48 hours to show and i see Barbara??? in Adriana's outfit. Is that  last minute change? Somehow they tagged Adriana in the post.

[Clauds]

I doubt that's 48 hours before the show because you can see the girls signing the wings and we know they did that before because by 11th October we already had a picture of the signed wings  it's more likely from a week or so before the show, Imaan also has a different outfit. Also that's not Barbara in Adriana's outfit, I think it's Anthi.

[Souled-Out]

I can't believe we got ANOTHER vogue video!!  And the video already has 113K views. It's def gonna reach 1 million videos fast. Adriana is KILLING IT and everyone is enjoying it. Adriana is on yet another victory lap/run in her career and I am happy to see establishments taking advantage of the fact that people still care and love Adriana. Especially young girls. Amazing. Glad to see her popularity and iconic status actually being taken advantage of, Adriana can continue to go a long ways with her name

[XSS]

So when will the American Vogue cover for Adriana? It's unbelievable Adriana  even didn't have one cover for Vogue US. I know Anna doesn't like Victoria's secret and Adriana, but it's so unfairly personal.

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41 minutes ago, XSS said:

So when will the American Vogue cover for Adriana? It's unbelievable Adriana  even didn't have one cover for Vogue US. I know Anna doesn't like Victoria's secret and Adriana, but it's so unfairly personal.

 

I really hope it comes one day

 

I do think Anna is racist and prefers nonexotic and fully white models to cover vogue given her history. I wouldn't say she disliked Adriana specifically because Vogue US have given Adriana many videos to work with. Also, Ana herself gave Adriana a dress to wear to the met when Adriana was still with VS and she had Adriana do a video for Vogue. Also, Adriana has a good amount of Vogue US editorials under her belt, more than alot of her peers. Like I don't think Alessandra or Irina has been in Vogue US as many times as Adriana. Its just Adriana never gets the damn cover. She gets alot of the other work for Vogue US though (editorials and videos). So I wouldn't say its personal to Adriana and that Anna didn't like her. But Ana is just way more selective with covers and I do think she prefers blondes and stuff for the cover. Because its not just Adriana who lacks the cover. Irina, who looks like Adriana, also never been on the cover and doesn't have as many editorials as Adriana either. Anna let Gigi hadid on the cover mulitple times before letting Bella, the darker haired who looked more exotic, on the cover. Alessandra never been on the cover and has been featured for Vogue US less than Adriana. I think Ana has an aversion to models with real exotic flare to them. I have never seen a model that looked like Adriana on that cover, and Adriana herself is considered lucky to have worked with Vogue US/Ana as many times as she did compared to some others 

 

Maybe one day but I also think Adriana would need to have something to promote as well. Because when Bella hadid finally got it, it seemed like she was on there more so as a celebrity because she did a whole interview and stuff. But on a positive note atleast, Adriana def is still very marketable and popular so, she still has a chance to somehow make it happen. She def has some more years left in her to complete her fashion/career goals 

[XSS]

As for me, Vogue Us has lost its class in fashion so many years. The choices for cover star are more and more personal, political, and racism. Considering Adriana is not advantageous in above topics, I hardly see any possibility for her to be on the cover. Personally, I wish she could get new covers for Vogue Italy or France.

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Vogue US cover is def more of a celeb kind of cover than a model cover. Anybody who is on it, including dark haired exotic models. Usually are on it because of personal and promotional reasons, not because they are simply modeling. But I still hope some day Adriana can get that cover

[borg]

When you look at the list of models with the most Vogue covers, including those of Vogue US, it's easy to understand why Adriana or Alessandra have never been on it. It is definitely not because of racism, nor has Candice ever appeared in Vogue US despite being a very conventional white, blonde, blue-eyed woman. Vogue, not only in the US edition, has never really liked models who made their careers linked to VS. I've always thought that this has limited Adriana's career quite a bit, as well as Alessandra's or Candice's, in terms of what they could have achieved (even more, I mean, they've had great careers). But hey, they were aware of it and the contract with VS definitely compensated them very well financially for it.

 

In the case of Vogue US, there is also the fact that it has never been just an exclusive cover for models, but for a host of celebrities such as singers, actresses and athletes.

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20 minutes ago, borg said:

When you look at the list of models with the most Vogue covers, including those of Vogue US, it's easy to understand why Adriana or Alessandra have never been on it. It is definitely not because of racism, nor has Candice ever appeared in Vogue US despite being a very conventional white, blonde, blue-eyed woman. Vogue, not only in the US edition, has never really liked models who made their careers linked to VS. I've always thought that this has limited Adriana's career quite a bit, as well as Alessandra's or Candice's, in terms of what they could have achieved (even more, I mean, they've had great careers). But hey, they were aware of it and the contract with VS definitely compensated them very well financially for it.

 

In the case of Vogue US, there is also the fact that it has never been just an exclusive cover for models, but for a host of celebrities such as singers, actresses and athletes.

 

 

Irina never had a VS career and tbh she's been doing very well and she has had even less Vogue US work than Adriana. They resemble each other by the way.

 

Plus, everyone knows Ana is indeed prejudice/racist. She's been accused of it several times. I wouldn't dismiss it that is. That woman has a racial bias

 

 Gisele, Doutzen, Karen Mulder, and Karolina all VS angels, all blonde and blue eyed, all have a Vogue US covers. At one point Karolina was a huge deal for VS too. Still got the cover. And its even more annoying because Adriana's career and popularity has lasted longer.

 

As I said, I never seen a model that looked like Adriana specifically on that cover. Not even Irina.

 

We all agreed that Vogue US also seem to be a cover for celebs and promoting things outside of modeling

[borg]

30 minutes ago, Souled-Out said:

Irina never had a VS career and tbh she's been doing very well and she has had even less Vogue US work than Adriana. They resemble each other by the way.

 

Plus, everyone knows Ana is indeed prejudice/racist. She's been accused of it several times. I wouldn't dismiss it that is. That woman has a racial bias

 

 Gisele, Doutzen, Karen Mulder, and Karolina all VS angels, all blonde and blue eyed, all have a Vogue US covers. At one point Karolina was a huge deal for VS too. Still got the cover. And its even more annoying because Adriana's career and popularity has lasted longer.

 

As I said, I never seen a model that looked like Adriana specifically on that cover. Not even Irina.

 

We all agreed that Vogue US also seem to be a cover for celebs and promoting things outside of modeling

Yes, Irina hasn't had a Vogue US cover, but despite being 5 years younger than them, she has more Vogue covers than Adriana and Alessandra combined. And she's even a good example, Irina didn't start having real success in Vogue until she left Sports Illustrated. Vogue people don't like SI, they don't like VS, they consider it cheap. There are some exceptions, but they are very, very rare and always more towards this high fashion type of model. I feel like Adriana (or Candice) has always been seen as too sexy for Vogue.

 

In any case, I don't think Adriana has been the victim of racist prejudice, at all. She is white, she has some exotic features, but she is white, latina. But in Vogue US you have had Rihanna, and there is no one more exotic than her. Or Joan Smalls, a latina supermodel. Or Penelope Cruz, who has several covers despite being a dark-eyed, brunette latina. Maybe many years ago there was a certain prejudice, but towards African or Asian models, Adriana's beauty has always been widely accepted. It was the beauty of models like Adwoa Aboah, Adut Akech or Liu Wen who had the hardest time until they were accepted because their beauty is not as conventional as Adriana's.

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1 hour ago, borg said:

Yes, Irina hasn't had a Vogue US cover, but despite being 5 years younger than them, she has more Vogue covers than Adriana and Alessandra combined. And she's even a good example, Irina didn't start having real success in Vogue until she left Sports Illustrated. Vogue people don't like SI, they don't like VS, they consider it cheap. There are some exceptions, but they are very, very rare and always more towards this high fashion type of model. I feel like Adriana (or Candice) has always been seen as too sexy for Vogue.

 

In any case, I don't think Adriana has been the victim of racist prejudice, at all. She is white, she has some exotic features, but she is white, latina. But in Vogue US you have had Rihanna, and there is no one more exotic than her. Or Joan Smalls, a latina supermodel. Or Penelope Cruz, who has several covers despite being a dark-eyed, brunette latina. Maybe many years ago there was a certain prejudice, but towards African or Asian models, Adriana's beauty has always been widely accepted. It was the beauty of models like Adwoa Aboah, Adut Akech or Liu Wen who had the hardest time until they were accepted because their beauty is not as conventional as Adriana's.

 

And Adriana and Alessandra left VS years ago. Especially Alessandra, she didn't return until this year. Still nothing. We are talking about Vogue US, not vogue in general. because Ana isn't the director of all the Vogues. I didn't say every Vogue was prejudice and racial. I said the head of Vogue US specifically is, and even with all of Irina's vogue covers, she still has very little Vogue US work. We are talking about Vogue US and Ana

 

Adriana is mixed and MOST DEF been stamped as "exotic" as a model. Now you're re-writing history. You may personally view Adriana as white. She never viewed herself as white. She never called herself white. When people mention her race/ethnicity, they don't call her white because Adriana never called herself that. And she isn't, she's def mixed, how she looks to YOU is different. But lets not pretend like Adriana was not called exotic by the fashion industry itself for years. Lets not pretend like when she was younger, Adriana wasn't being asked her ethnicity and asked what was she mixed with by people in this very industry. She was asked, multiple times even backstage at high fashion shows. Why would they ask her that if they viewed her as a white woman?  They don't ask people who aren't racially ambiguous looking, that. A white latina is Gisele, that is a white latina. Adriana doesn't look a thing like her first of all. They obviously have very different looks. And most importantly, I don't recall Gisele being asked what she was mixed with like Adriana was or her ethnicity being a focal point, like it was for Adriana. There is a reason for that. And yes we do see those real white latinas more everywhere . Adriana does not look like that, and she especially didn't when she was younger and there was a reason why her ethnicity was a focal point in her career. All the other white latina models, their ethnicity was never a highlight in their career. But it is for Adriana and other nonwhite/mixed models. We can't pretend like the fashion industry wasn't deeming Adriana "exotic" left and right, they clearly did.  Especially when she was younger. Rihanna is Rihanna, she is not a model but an entertainer and superstar you can't ignore because of her impact as a singer and business woman. She's a superstar. That goes for ANY none model, including penelope, idk why you used them as examples when they aren't models. Joan is Like Naomi. They are called tokens. They have to choose just enough nonwhite/black models so they don't get called out but its never that many. Lets not act like we don't know what that is.  And as I said, for Vogue US specifically, I am not seeing MODELS like Adriana on those covers often. Not even Irina. Adriana literally liked a post that pointed out Ana being a freaking racist at Vogue a few years ago. I am sure she knows more than you and had a reason for doing that