General Discussion

[4BWL]

8 minutes ago, Sophie20 said:

I think when her frieds want to say something that they didn't agree or if she didn't like she just put them off her life....Like whats happened with Eduardo? And Tamara? 

 

Eduardo practically lived with her, traveled everywhere with her, was very much in her life, she paid for his wedding (I think) and she was close with his husband Sebastian...now they haven't been seen together or interacting on social media. Eduardo definitely gave her some cold hard truth, she probably didn't like it and was cut off. It happened after that Edelman stuff I believe because I remember Eduardo would wear Julian's ugly JE11 merchandise. Maybe it involved that. 

[fieldofoptics]

11 minutes ago, Souled-Out said:

 

I agree, and I don't know why nor do I understand why Adriana is like this right now. Even if she wanted to take a dig at VS, does she not realizing that she is fucking herself up? She just threw 18 years of hard work for VS and her one of a kind career with them down the drain her DAMN self. Thats why I refuse to not believe that something more happened. Because its just too irrational otherwise, even for Adriana.

 

What people supporting her fail to realize is, its not the fact that she is leaving but how she is choosing to do it. WHY couldn't she be classy and graceful with it? VS has given her too many great years for her not be plain and simple.I can't even think of anything that would cause her to be this way.

 

WHY does she have to be that one person, who can't leave a situation normally and with class.

 

She is powered and fueled only by her emotions and it seems like no common sense! Maybe some will disagree but what else does she have other than vs? METIN? American beauty star is not going to shoot her into star power. She's not tyra! I mean with all respect in the world, she has so much beauty STILL (even though 36 is NOT old it's old for modeling) she has the option of staying in a vs contract until she's 40. She's not getting options without taking her "clothes off" elsewhere if she thinks VS is the same thing. No offense but are her acting roles if she gets any not going to be roles that require her to be in a bikini or something? She'll be cast because she's damn BEAUTIFUL! She will be required to show skin... I am sorry but this makes no sense at allllllll

 

And even if she doesn't care about VS, what about how OTHER companies will see her? Everyone knows she owes everything to VS for what she has. Who would want to work with a 36 year old supermodel that acts without any tact and throws the company that made her under the bus

 

byeeee

[Souled-Out]

1 hour ago, fieldofoptics said:

 

She is powered and fueled only by her emotions and it seems like no common sense! Maybe some will disagree but what else does she have other than vs? METIN? American beauty star is not going to shoot her into star power. She's not tyra! I mean with all respect in the world, she has so much beauty STILL (even though 36 is NOT old it's old for modeling) she has the option of staying in a vs contract until she's 40. She's not getting options without taking her "clothes off" elsewhere if she thinks VS is the same thing. No offense but are her acting roles if she gets any not going to be roles that require her to be in a bikini or something? She'll be cast because she's damn BEAUTIFUL! She will be required to show skin... I am sorry but this makes no sense at allllllll

 

And even if she doesn't care about VS, what about how OTHER companies will see her? Everyone knows she owes everything to VS for what she has. Who would want to work with a 36 year old supermodel that acts without any tact and throws the company that made her under the bus

 

byeeee

 

exactly other companies will see this and it won't be a good look. because everybody knows what VS has done for her. And now she looks ungratful and she is already older. Thats why I said, if Adriana is going to be this way, she may as well:

 

R E T I R E

[morpheu]

Evreything was perfect a week or so ago at the viewing party.This all happening when she is in NY at the same time with ed.And nobody knows why she wen't to NY.She was supposed to do a talk show with jasmine but what happened to that?.This is either a missunderstanding or something else then that BS story.She was never ungratefull to any company she worked for.Doubt she would start with VS just randomly.Also weird how she didn't do any interviews this year for the show

 

http://headlineplanet.com/home/2017/11/17/jasmine-tookes-adriana-lima-scheduled-november-28-today-show/

[fieldofoptics]

I still don't get why she would unfollow Ed? there's no rational reason for it if you guys are SURE she did this today... it makes whether she wants to leave vs or not irrelevant because it's just dirty and stupid.

[Sophie20]

17 minutes ago, Souled-Out said:

yeah I remember one time someone told ed's husband when Adriana was dating julian or something, or was it after the matt shit. Anyway, someone told him under a photo he commented on to help her/guide her, as usual her fans predicted what a disaster this was going to turn out. And ed's husband said he would like to but he couldn't. And someone else close to her say they don't try to tell her to run that area of her life.

 

Adriana is surely one of the most stubborn people, who doesn't seem to listen to people when it comes to that area of her life, but she clearly needs help with it the most, and from her family. I think other people in her family and circle, just say fuck it. Like "she will learn the hard way." That sucks. She isn't going to get far in this area of her life being that way. She should listen more to people who care no matter how she right she thinks she is.People who care about her only have HER best interest at heart. And she is too blinded by what she feels to see what others are seeing. Sometimes you need OTHER people's eyes and observations

Agree..and now that you said I remember this..Sebastian said he wanted to help.... sad he can't, he unfollowed her too

 

@4BWLYou can be right, maybe Eduardo disagree from something... who knows! He just doesn't exists anymore in her life...he commented something about the girls on Marko 's ig and Marko liked it but them they unfollowed each other

 

And Adriana even unfollowed Ziza, Marko's mom but idk when and why, she adored her no?!?!

 

I really don't know whats going on

[Iriana]

18 years. She found it in herself to post that after 18 years of working with VS. Adriana is juvenile. She is so impulsive, it's pathetic.   I'm so disappointed in her. Imagine how she'll feel when her relationship ends. Her career is forever tainted by her actions. 

[fieldofoptics]

2 minutes ago, Sophie20 said:

Agree..and now that you said I remember this..Sebastian said he wanted to help.... sad he can't, he unfollowed her too

 

@4BWLYou can be right, maybe Eduardo disagree from something... who knows! He just doesn't exists anymore in her life...he commented something about the girls on Marko 's ig and Marko liked it but them they unfollowed each other

 

And Adriana even unfollowed Ziza, Marko's mom but idk when and why, she adored her no?!?!

 

I really don't know whats going on

 

Sorry but it's like she's in a cult. Brainwashing 101 (thanks to metin). Insecure men do it all the time... encourage their girlfriends to disassociate from everyone except their lover. I know i'm putting a lot on metin and it's unfair because adriana is almost 40 and has a mind of her own but ugh. I am worried.

[fieldofoptics]

1 minute ago, Iriana said:

18 years. She found it in herself to post that after 18 years of working with VS. Adriana is juvenile. She is so impulsive, it's pathetic.   I'm so disappointed in her. Imagine how she'll feel when her relationship ends. Her career is forever tainted by her actions. 

 

Right? And it's inevitably going to end. This guy seems emotionally and mentally abusive I M O. If not abusive, he is in the very least manipulative.

[Souled-Out]

1 hour ago, fieldofoptics said:

 

Sorry but it's like she's in a cult. Brainwashing 101 (thanks to metin). Insecure men do it all the time... encourage people to disassociate from everyone except their lover. I know i'm putting a lot on metin and it's unfair because adriana is almost 40 and has a mind of her own but ugh. I am worried.

 

Yeah and sure she wasn't posting alot during VSFS week. But Adriana was so damn happy in China. Like her mouth would not close because she was looking so happy and excited to be there. She had fun with the fans there and stuff.  And now this?

 

There is a cover up in that damn IG post, thats why it doesn't make sense. Something happened. Metin, VS, whatever and she reacted impulsively AND poorly.

 

Either she is using that "story" to cover up what happened between her and VS. OR she is using to cover up, how much mind control she is under metin.

[jamiya]

She unfolded VS quite a while ago, and she already didn't following ED before VSFS. Besides, she sometimes unfollows a crowd of people at once....

 

I think, "I had received a call for the possibility of filming a sexy video of me to be posted and shared in social media" means LOVE Magazine's Christmas Advent Calendar, "I will not take of my clothes anymore" means "I will never be completely naked", and "empty cause" doesn't mean VS. 

 

I guess she is just saying that she will not work just for such sex appeal, and she said this is because criticism about LOVE Magazine is happening.

[Sophie20]

If she wanted says no just to LOVE magazine WHY IS SHE UNFOLLOWING PEOPLE FROM VS? This doesn't make sense... 

 

@fieldofoptics I think the same...Metin is very manipulative and people like this "love" unstable people..he can prove his "power" and can make the world a better place to all.... bullshit

[morpheu]

If she is under contract with VS,she would not post this unless she isn't or referring to nude or something.You cannot just shade the company you work with without legal repercussions.She is most likely reffering to LOVE magazine since their callendar is coming out in videos.Way to many coincidences at once.I don't remember a year when she wasn't on a show promoting the VS show either.Something happened and it's not her boyfriend or it's a missunderstanding.

[fieldofoptics]

It's almost worse if she DIDN'T mean VS because then she's just kind of brainless? She's a lingerie model she must know the implications of this. Lingerie models shouldn't write vague comments about not wanting to take their clothes off and insecurity and so on.

 

But if it's true that she unfollowed Ed a long time ago... it seems more plausible that she doesn't mean VS. But that makes less sense? What difference does it make whether you're doing an advent love video in lingerie or shooting lingerie for vs? I mean the love video with her in the shower didn't show her nude. Like souled-out said they don't even allow nudity on instagram. It seems like her post would be MORE embarrassing if she made that fuss over one request to do something nude, because like others have pointed out it's not like she does a lot of nude work anyway. Just refuse it and leave it at that.

[Souled-Out]

1 hour ago, jamiya said:

She unfolded VS quite a while ago, and she already didn't following ED before VSFS. Besides, she sometimes unfollows a crowd of people at once....

 

I think, "I had received a call for the possibility of filming a sexy video of me to be posted and shared in social media" means LOVE Magazine's Christmas Advent Calendar, "I will not take of my clothes anymore" means "I will never be completely naked", and "empty cause" doesn't mean VS. 

 

I guess she is just saying that she will not work just for such sex appeal, and she said this is because criticism about LOVE Magazine is happening.

 

Well we know why she is unfollowing a crowd. Its because of what she said. It could be their feed then, Candice is back to posting like she used to (nothing wrong with that) and most angels are now. Lily and Lais are just close to her

 

But the fact that she started unfollowing ed and VS way before this is a game changer. I figured she did VS because I didn't remember her following them. But I didn't know she already did Ed.

 

So she could just mean nude?

 

Which still means its because of Metin.

[Souled-Out]

1 hour ago, fieldofoptics said:

It's almost worse if she DIDN'T mean VS because then she's just kind of brainless? She's a lingerie model she must know the implications of this. Lingerie models shouldn't write vague comments about not wanting to take their clothes off and insecurity and so on.

 

But if it's true that she unfollowed Ed a long time ago... it seems more plausible that she doesn't mean VS. But that makes less sense? What difference does it make whether you're doing an advent love video in lingerie or shooting lingerie for vs? I mean the love video with her in the shower didn't show her nude. Like souled-out said they don't even allow nudity on instagram. It seems like her post would be MORE embarrassing if she made that fuss over one request to do something nude, because like others have pointed out it's not like she does a lot of nude work anyway. Just refuse it and leave it at that.

yeahhh. Yeah. LOL. That means we created this all by ourselves, and she didn't think people were going to see it that way. Because I do know she had been unfollowed VS because when someone else asked, I thought she never followed them. But I don't remember when was the last time I saw her following ed.

 

She still just fucked herself up though, all she had to do was to be clear of what she was trying to say. And her team need to work, like they did with the Jualian E story and say, thats not what she meant.

[fieldofoptics]

1 minute ago, Souled-Out said:

 

 

So she could just mean nude?

 

Which still means its because of Metin.

 

But is there a point in posting that whole thing if she just meant nude? What's the real distinction? You won't show your nipples anymore because you had an awakening? I mean I want to believe that she didn't want to implicate VS but how silly would it be to make a post over a request to do something nude when you've done nude shoots before and barely do them now. I don't get it.

[Souled-Out]

58 minutes ago, fieldofoptics said:

 

But is there a point in posting that whole thing if she just meant nude? What's the real distinction? You won't show your nipples anymore because you had an awakening? I mean I want to believe that she didn't want to implicate VS but how silly would it be to make a post over a request to do something nude when you've done nude shoots before and barely do them now. I don't get it.

girl/boy I don't know. We will just come to the conclusion that we can't think how Adriana thinks.. and she can't think how we think LOL. Everybody else is thinking she chose to announce her retirement this way and that may not be it. One thing that is for sure though is metin's influence. Thats why the message is so incoherent. I am not even sure if Adriana understood what she was trying to say and I now don't think she realized what she did in the process.

[Souled-Out]

At this point, I just hope she sat down and had a talk with somebody. Like VS and her team to clear this up.

 

[4BWL]

Whether she was talking about Love, VS or whatever, I still think she should have given her statement to a PR person so they could've made it coherent enough to post so there'd be no doubt she meant strictly "no nudity." What's stopping a designer, brand or magazine from looking at that post, not getting a clear understanding of it and not booking her because they don't know what is or isn't okay and decide she's not worth the trouble.