General Discussion

[ThePinkDiet]

1 hour ago, PastaFreak said:

 

 

She's way too cool for VS.

[VBacz]

12 hours ago, Elite13 said:

Yeah! To a model agent at One! Mathieu.

 

12 hours ago, PinkCouture said:

 

 

Thank you! I had NO idea that she was married, and it's like you could never even guess it. How old are these pics?

Earlier this year, she was actually linked to the French humorist Gad Elmaleh, and there were some pics of them both on the tabloids.

[Jaku84]

14 hours ago, CandleVixen said:

1) Lo, Yasmine, and almost all the newbies, tbh.

 

2) Barbara P, Toni, Shanina.

(All returning triumphant after a few years away. I can come up with more returning models if needed.)

 

3) Winnie, Kendall.

(these are probably due to entitlement attitudes)

 

4) Doutzen, Maria B, The great expectation and excitement of watching the show. The cool factor is gone.

(And one who walked in 2010, in Pink, with green sweatsuit, and a pink dog bag- Fabiana Semprebom.

She was in the batch of Brazilians who popped up in VS around 2006/2007 for catalog and website work.)

 

I like Lorena but her walk left me “meh”. Saabah though, with her cute new clip of her walk out... WINNER.

 

all the 00s Brazilians were excellent tbh: ABB, Isa, Iza, Adri, Gis, Raquel, Caroline, Fernanda, Emmanuela etc

[lostdiadem]

In case you're still interested!

 

[Clauds]

8 hours ago, VSDiaries said:

Ahh Thank-you! ❤ To be honest I was going to use this as an opportunity to move onto other things and I don't really think I'll be restarting the account. Was fun though haha! 💙

 

 Probably! Although it seems they just bulk reported all my posts including photos. And if they're going up against copyright I'm hardlyyy the account to go for haha. A couple of us think it came from the paparazzi guy who took up skirt photos of Martha and had a cry about it haha. I made the story calling him out & he creepily started following accounts who had reposted my story (but couldn't do me as I had him blocked...)

 

Anyway I'm probably getting off topic from the thread & doesnt matter much now anyway haha

 

 

 

Damn sis, this sucks! We all loved and appreciated your account here. We all also thought the paparazzi was a fucking douchebag (and if you ever visit BZ please know most of us think you're trash for thinking you're allowed to invade Martha's privacy like that just because she's a lingerie model, asshole) after the whole picture deal. That being said, seems like a lot of fan accounts have been taken down for copyright thanks to paparazzi, heck, even Gigi got reported for it and she is the person in the picture  and you're more than welcome to bring all your discussions and edits to BZ  

[Clauds]

As for the show, I finally took the time to go through all the models, outfits/segments in detail so ...

 

WELCOME TO MY TED TALK 

 

CASTING: While I did like 42/60 models, this was still so so so crowded, I baffles me that good sis Georgia Fowler got just one outift, same for Duckie and Leomie. We did not need 60 models. I would take it back to 40-45 models and make sure the Angels get the three outfits and stand out so they don't get lost in the crowd. I do think as a whole they made better choices than previous years, especially with the newbies who were great for the most part, Lorena Rae was by far (and unsurprisingly) my favorite, followed by Yasmin I also loved Willow, Myrthe, Duckie, Sabaj, Alannah, Kelsey, Maia, Josie, Mayowa, Sofie and Cheyenne. The return of Toni, Shanina and Barbara was as good I thought it would be and I hope VS sticks them around, I think them + Leomie and Lorena have so much Angel potential! I liked the cast a lot but I would have cut 15-20 girls at least. Also please let's just make Grace an Angel already and have Willow as the Pink spokesperson. Kelly Gale looked amazing btw, seems like she read our comments and toned down her crazinnes the last weeks/days and went back to a healthy, beautiful look. Cindy Bruna, Barbara Fialho, Kendull, Estelle Chen, Lameka, Megan W and Gigi did nothing for me and need to go, I hate to say this about Gigi because I adore her but she just didn't do anything for me this year, and underwhelming return.

 

ANGELS: I appreciate that so far VS seems to have kept the attention on the Angels this year, they all got the openings/closings and all the big moments from the show. Still, 11 is too much and I'd cut some girls and not add anyone. I'd keep a lineup of seven: Candice, Elsa, Jasmine, Taylor, Lais and add Grace and Lorena Rae to the lineup. I adore Romee, Martha and Stella but they have never really stood out for me, Bee looked gorgeous but she lost her spark to me. Sara and Josephine I simply don't like, for different reasons but I just don't like them so bye. Adriana got the goodbye we all wanted and more importantly, the farewell she deserved after 20 years, it's the end of an era for sure but I'm happy it was dealt with the right way.

 

OUTFITS/SEGMENTS: I liked the fact that we had seven segments because I like a longer show. I'm still lost at the concept behind Glam Royale and Golden Girls? Maybe I'm stupid but IDK where they came from. Overall i think the outfits are the best ones we've had since 2014, and sure, there were some truly awful outfits in Downtown Angels and missmatched patterns in Glam Royale but still in both segments we had really strong ones and even Pink was good for the most part. The MK segment was awful, completely terrible and I wish I hadn't seen it, probably one of the worst segments in the show's history. But still, I liked most of them and Celestial Angels was so beautiful, one of my favorite segments they've done in recent years, so many good outfits. Flights of Fancy was also really good, so simple and beautiful. However my favorite segment was the Adriana segment lmao, I'll take a segment with her any day. Something I also liked was that there were less wings this year and I feel like that makes it more special, I'm more than fine with none of the newbies getting wings.

 

PERFORMERS: This is a hard one, I hated all of them except Shawn and The Struts, so I would have kept them + Halsey for PR reasons, other than that what a mess it was. I feel like that awful perfomance really did 100% fuck up Taylor's opening because what a slow beat song, it also didn't fit the vibe of the segment at all. As many suggested, I would have done The Struts in GR and then maybe this Leela person in CA? IDK i think the song was terrible anyway. The Chainsmokers suck so yikes that. Bebe's song was appropiate for her, her voice, her singing and her career: A mess. The good thing is that everyone (except Shawn and Halsey) is so irrelevant that they shouldn't steal the girl's thunder.

 

Overall I liked the show better than 2015-2017, I hope VS doesn't fuck up the editing but so far I'll give this show a 8/10. I'll give my second round of opinions after that. In the meantime, thanks for coming to my TED talk! 

[angeljoskriver]

I wouldn’t expect so much dropping of the viewing rate. Most of these people reporting they don’t watch the show or try to get people not watching never did anyway. Probably there‘s going to be a decrease but not as big as some people are hoping. 

 

As for the person who tells that the FB isn’t worth one million dollar... not sure if you can say it without really seeing and inspect it. Based on pictures and information VS give you can probably not decide whether this is the price of all the diamonds and stones or not. Maybe I‘m being naive here, but I feel like there are a lot of people trying to just give VS negative press because of Ed‘s stupid answers. 

[ThePinkDiet]

It will go away as soon as the show airs. Then people will remember VS exists next November.

[uberglasses]

5 hours ago, ThePinkDiet said:

She's way too cool for VS.

Seriously, she brings another level of class to VS, despite the ugly outfits they put her in. 

[uberglasses]

1 hour ago, Clauds said:

CASTING: While I did like 42/60 models, this was still so so so crowded, I baffles me that good sis Georgia Fowler got just one outift, same for Duckie and Leomie. We did not need 60 models. 

Exactly! With seven segments, they didn't need 60 models. Give some of these girls two outfits, especially the ones with ugly outfits (aka anyone in Downtown Angels and/or MK collab). I think if you're a returning girl who isn't a PINK girl, you deserve two.

[Clauds]

I would have done 12 Angels with three outfits each, then Grace + all the returners two outfits and most of the newbies with just one outfit except the high profile ones. I like Sofie a lot but I'm stil gagged she got two outfits over Duckie and Winnie 

[Kv0802]

Show notes from VSpressroom

 

GLAM ROYALE: Irreverence of the Landed gent1y girl, posh and punky. An exploration of tartan. Connected to the element of royalty without the pomp and ceremony. Versace, Westwood and McQueen.
GOLDEN ANGEL: A mixture of rich brocades and lace with an urban fashion twist. Foiled detailing with 3 dimensional gold embroidery. Gucci, Etro, Prada, Dolce, Off-White and tribute t-shirts.
FLIGHTS OF FANCY: Feminine, sparkle, romantic, sherbet tones, lots of diamond embroidery. Valentino Couture, Schiaparelli, Francesco Scognamiglio, Nude and pastels.
PINK: The more logos the better with bold, bright neon colors, fun patterns and playful techno fabrics.
FLORAL FANTASY: An exploration of Victoria’s Secret heritage; the iconic pink and white stripe, logos and symbols mixed with bright florals this years Collab with Mary Katrantzou is bold, bright and beyond chic.

DOWNTOWN ANGEL: Rooted in Street style. Oversized, sculpted puffer coats intermixed with exaggerated performance wear shapes paired with Victoria Sport. A bold black pallet with punches of flora. Powerfully feminine, seductive and strong. Techno fabrics, neoprene and nylon.
CELESTIAL ANGEL: Based on Astronomy. Midnight skies, mixed metals, gold and silvers, Dreamscapes, moon. Foiled laces, transparent and diaphanous fabrics. McQueen, Dior, Valentino.

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@Clauds I love you analysis of the performers, I completely agree and that made me laugh lol

 

Now that I've seen enough pictures and motion, I have an idea who my ideal Angel lineup would be and who I would want to catalogue mainstays. 

 

Angels: Candice, Barbara, Jasmine, Taylor, Elsa, Josephine, Romee, Grace, Lorena

PINK: Maggie, Zuri, Willow, Myrthe, Maia, Alannah, 

 

Regular photoshoots and VSFS: Aiden, Leomie, Megan, Toni, Kelly, Cheyenne, Kendall, Ming, Yasmin, Cindy, Cheyenne, Sophie, Shanina, Georgia, Alanna A, 

 

Please don't bring back: Harieth, Gigi, Bella, Alexina, Lais, Martha, Sui, Barbara F, Devon, Josie, Winnie, Lameka, Sara S, Sadie, Nadine, Liu, Joudana, Stella (she's an Angel and I listed her this far down bc that's how much I forgot about her LOL), Frida, 

 

I'm glad Adriana's gone. She looked out of place. 

 

 

[medicenevs]

More baby promo. She's really pretty and I actually enjoy listen to her talk.

[Syria]

^ ooh she's really pretty, that was enjoyable

[Alexis10]

22 hours ago, VSDiaries said:

Not too sure. Just woke up went to post something and it had been taken down.

My email for the account is now slowly filling up with IG copyright claims from VS for the 2018 show videos. But the same person  reporting me is also saying they have copyright over audience camera footage so I don't know...

😭😭😭😭😭😭 I hope you get it back.....❤️

[pamp_lusa]

3 hours ago, Clauds said:

ANGELS: I appreciate that so far VS seems to have kept the attention on the Angels this year, they all got the openings/closings and all the big moments from the show. Still, 11 is too much and I'd cut some girls and not add anyone. I'd keep a lineup of seven: Candice, Elsa, Jasmine, Taylor, Lais and add Grace and Lorena Rae to the lineup. I adore Romee, Martha and Stella but they have never really stood out for me, Bee looked gorgeous but she lost her spark to me. Sara and Josephine I simply don't like, for different reasons but I just don't like so bye. Adriana got the goodbye we all wanted and more importantly, the farewell she deserved after 20 years, it's the end of an era for sure but I'm happy it was dealt with the right way.

Just out of curiosity, why not? Josephine is the only angel apart from Sara that I like so I'm sort of the opposite of you. Candice I can take or leave

[Clauds]

41 minutes ago, pamp_lusa said:

Just out of curiosity, why not? Josephine is the only angel apart from Sara that I like so I'm sort of the opposite of you. Candice I can take or leave

 

I don't like Josephine's look, she has a great body but I'm not a huge fan of her face and I also don't vibe with her attitude, she's too extra and I like more chilled girls I guess, I find her annoying  Sara is gorgeous but I don't like her for other personal reasons that I ain't discussing. I do understand why other people like them tho. 

[PinkCouture]

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[Light_Blue]

5 hours ago, Clauds said:

As for the show, I finally took the time to go through all the models, outfits/segments in detail so ...

 

WELCOME TO MY TED TALK 

 

CASTING: While I did like 42/60 models, this was still so so so crowded, I baffles me that good sis Georgia Fowler got just one outift, same for Duckie and Leomie. We did not need 60 models. I would take it back to 40-45 models and make sure the Angels get the three outfits and stand out so they don't get lost in the crowd.

Absolutely agree,  I think the angels should also be allowed to choose their own looks, before other models and they should have their own segment with this third look.

5 hours ago, Clauds said:

 

ANGELS: I appreciate that so far VS seems to have kept the attention on the Angels this year, they all got the openings/closings and all the big moments from the show

 

OUTFITS/SEGMENTS: I liked the fact that we had seven segments because I like a longer show. I'm still lost at the concept behind Glam Royale and Golden Girls? Maybe I'm stupid but IDK where they came from. Overall i think the outfits are the best ones we've had since 2014, and sure, there were some truly awful outfits in Downtown Angels and missmatched patterns in Glam Royale but still in both segments we had really strong ones and even Pink was good for the most part. The MK segment was awful, completely terrible and I wish I hadn't seen it, probably one of the worst segments in the show's history. But still, I liked most of them and Celestial Angels was so beautiful, one of my favorite segments they've done in recent years, so many good outfits. Flights of Fancy was also really good, so simple and beautiful. However my favorite segment was the Adriana segment lmao, I'll take a segment with her any day. Something I also liked was that there were less wings this year and I feel like that makes it more special, I'm more than fine with none of the newbies getting wings.

Actually Sara did not get opening or closing so not for all of them but since you don't like ( I actually adores her) I get why you forget

Regarding segments I agree Celestial Angels was so amazing I think it will be one of my top 10 favorite segment. I really like Flights of Fancy as well.

5 hours ago, Clauds said:

PERFORMERS: This is a hard one, I hated all of them except Shawn and The Struts, so I would have kept them + Halsey for PR reasons, other than that what a mess it was. I feel like that awful perfomance really did 100% fuck up Taylor's opening because what a slow beat song, it also didn't fit the vibe of the segment at all. As many suggested, I would have done The Struts in GR and then maybe this Leela person in CA? IDK i think the song was terrible anyway. The Chainsmokers suck so yikes that. Bebe's song was appropiate for her, her voice, her singing and her career: A mess. The good thing is that everyone (except Shawn and Halsey) is so irrelevant that they shouldn't steal the girl's thunder.

Overall I liked the show better than 2015-2017, I hope VS doesn't fuck up the editing but so far I'll give this show a 8/10. I'll give my second round of opinions after that. In the meantime, thanks for coming to my TED talk! 

👍

I agree with your opinion about performance especially The Struts song suits the runway very well. Leela song was a mess, I think this segment was at least for me kind of rocky, and Tylor is just not the best opener so with this song they did not make her any justice.  I also don't think it's good song for the opening. I hope for the editing more similar to 2012 or 2008.