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For the 100th time, please stop doing armchair diagnoses on Adriana and/or her partners. None of you have met Adriana nor this man have no idea what their relationship is. You can agree or disagree with Adriana's alleged political views or some of the work she does, but attacking her relationships and family is a no-go.

Well, no more. The Lizzo of today is half the Lizzo she was when that episode dropped

My two cents: Within the next 5 years max, SI (and most brands) will swing back into the old standards. Why? Ozempic. Body positivity is very quickly going of fashion, every other influencer, actress, singer and model that made a career out of the "I'm big and I love myself" crap has now magically gotten thin, and we all know it ain't diet and exercise and diet, as much as they are all lying through their teeth on social media. Just look at Lizzo and Barbie Ferreira these days. South Park said best: Rich people get ozempic, poor people get body positivity. And this will cascade very fast into fashion and every other industry. I'm sure we'll continue to see diversity in terms of race, ethnicity, age, etc., but body diversity? That's gonna go away as quickly as it came.

It's not complicated, if the content is from a private account they should not be reposted. Doesn't matter if they've leaked into other places or not, if you go by that logic then I guess we should also allow nudes/porn since it's leaked in other places. Also, please remember Valentina is literally a child. There is absolutely no reason to be posting anything from her or her friend's socials, in fact, I'd go as far as saying that people trying to follow her and her friends are creep as hell. Valentina may be the daughter of a celebrity, but she herself is not a celebrity and -as of today- is not pursuing a career in the industry either; if/when Valentina (or any famous child) decides to pursue modelling/acting/singing that will be handled differently, but again, as of today, Valentina is just a regular child whose privacy has no business being posted here. And if Adriana had no problem with it, then she would be sharing the content which she isn't doing, she's obviously careful with what she's posting about her children.

Pictures from private social media are not allowed in Bellazon, especially not pictures from a child's private social media.

Her Halloween costume is 10/10, I love it! She truly delivered and impeccable look

Am I the only one not feeling Gigi's VS work? Like I adore Gigi and she's great at everything she does but something about her work with VS is just meh to me. I think VS is pushing too hard for her to be the "girl next door" and it's just not working for me. Everyone else looks gorgeous in the commercial tho.

Thread cleaned, everyone is entitled to their own taste and opinion, but keep discussions civil and without attacking anyone. And if you don't have anything nice to say, perhaps is best not to say anything at all.

If you look up Tyra Banks when her career started in 1991 you'll see she was by no means as voluptuous as she became later on and once she did become more voluptuous her career in high fashion was not as prominent anymore and she fully transitioned into commercial gigs like VS and Sports Illustrated, Heidi by her own admission had no real career whatsoever until VS made her a household name, plus Heidi is the perfect example of someone who is a massive commercial success but she has no high fashion credentials at all. Eva's career became prominent after being featured in a lingerie commercial and Laetitia was a GUESS Girl who then also became more prominent thanks to her work for L'Oreal and VS, two huge commercial brands. If anything, Eva and Laetitia are the exceptions that prove the rule. Again, I think it's insanity that Adriana and the other Brazilian girls were considered the peak of curves when they were all pretty darn thin, but when you compare them to what was trendy in the high fashion world at the time with the likes of Kate Moss and Jamie King then it's easy to see why. Not that I'm complaining, I'm really happy Adriana stuck with VS and took a more commercial route, I've never really been into the high fashion aesthetics and even now when they claim to be more "diverse" the majority of the girls walking down a runway do not look like the poster children of health. But all you need to do is watch the old VS shows and read the headlines for Adriana's covers through the years to see that she was most definitely put into the "exotic, voluptuous, bombshell" box.

I'm sorry to break it to you, but Adriana was by all standards a curvy model back when she started in the late 90s-00s. Gisele literally built her entire career on being "the Brazilian bombshell" with the curves, defying the standard of the "heroine chic" that had taken the fashion industry by storm with Kate Moss, and once Gisele opened the doors then the Brazilian bombshell trend started from which Adriana, Alessandra, Ana Beatriz, Isabeli and many others profited from and were able to build a high fashion career while also being commercially successful. Before that you were either a high fashion model or you were a commercial model. Is she what would be considered curvy now? Absolutely not, but back in the day she most definitely was considered curvacious/bigger than the average model, the "I'm not a typical size 0 model, I have boobs and a butt!" was a massive selling point for Adriana's career and commercial success but it also put a dent on her high fashion career. It's insane that that was the standard, but let's not rewrite history, that's exactly how it was, if you watch the old VSFS they even discuss how their models are "diverse" and "curvy"

Just gonna go on the record here to say Elsa influenced me into buying Maria Nila products a few months ago they are very expensive but holy crap it's truly the best hair care brand I've ever tried, truly 10/10! My hair hasn't been this nice in years.

Yeah I Adriana has definitely been filed under "exotic" her entire career. Is she white passing? Yes, she is. But she's definitely been stereotyped which makes it harder to break into HF and get taken seriously by the industry, for Adriana VS was the best thing because it made her household name which then lead to a more successful career. Irina was on the same boat, the only difference is that Irina started dating a very famous man and that elevated her profile, otherwise I'm pretty sure she would not be where she is right now.

I doubt that's 48 hours before the show because you can see the girls signing the wings and we know they did that before because by 11th October we already had a picture of the signed wings it's more likely from a week or so before the show, Imaan also has a different outfit. Also that's not Barbara in Adriana's outfit, I think it's Anthi.

I need every single plastic surgeon and alleged professional who came out to "offer insight" about the thousand plastic surgeries Adriana had allegedly gotten done to apologise to her and fuck all the way off of the internet. I'm glad Adriana had the right support system and she was able to get back into the right headspace, but I cannot imagine how hard this would be on someone less robust and more vulnerable that did not have the same support system.

I don't really know how else to explain it other than her vibe was off. Not saying she did not look great, she did and everyone agrees on that but her vibe was off the entire time, even backstage she didn't look particularly happy or comfortable, she also did not crack a single smile on the runway which is odd, it goes beyond the resting bitch face. We've seen Candice walk this show more than 10 times at this point and it just felt like something was off this time. Then you add up the fact that she chose to skip the after party altogether and the her also taking a while before posting about the show on social media, the shady caption from one of her friends, etc. It's entirely possible nothing was wrong, I don't really use social media so I don't know what's being said but quite a few of us here noticed the same thing