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The same company that took like a decade to give her her first fantasy bra and only had her open the show once? I know a lot of the same creatives and management team is gone, but the brand doesn’t have a good track record of valuing Ale.
5 hours ago, Marsnoop said:The same company that took like a decade to give her her first fantasy bra and only had her open the show once? I know a lot of the same creatives and management team is gone, but the brand doesn’t have a good track record of valuing Ale.
Yeah but I never understood why not. Even with some of their creative team being gone, it still ended up being that way. They could have atleast called her for the fashion show. Its weird to me at this point, I really don't get what they are like this about her. People remember her! We expected to see her too. I always felt like they low key sabotaged her in her prime
They really brought back Gisele and Adri and Naomi and then put Hailey Bieber in an icons campaign. 
Anyway, full Icon Campaign from the pressroom.
Models: Adut Akech, Hailey Bieber, Gisele Bundchen, Naomi Campbell, Paloma Elsesser, Sui He, Adriana Lima, Emily Ratajkowski, Candice Swanepoel
Victoria's Secret "The Tour 23"
Wonder if they VS execs are banging their heads against a wall for going with Doja now that she's told all her fans she hates them and thinks they're stupid....
Is there a vs fantasy bra
Alessandra always played second to Gisele and Adriana in VS, the only show she opened is the one show Adriana was not available to walk, not sure why yall are surprised she's not in this, plus is not like she's been able to sustain a level of relevancy in the industry either. I would have loved to see Karolina in this as well but I am also aware that she's not one of the go-to girls people think of when they hear VS.
I am more surprised they didn't get Tyra or Heidi in this to be honest, or one of the other OG angels.
On 8/7/2023 at 11:28 PM, TheDude2k said:VS still sends catalogues through the mail?
It's a coupon/promo mailing -- not a catalog.
VS always have a way to lure me back like a toxic lover...
Same, can't believe we're back here
That being said, they really should have kept this with the actual Icons: Naomi, Dri, Candice & Gisele. The rest are just meh and far from icon status anywhere
The collection is out on their site now.
That video proves what made VS spectacular in the past, the girls UNDERSTOOD how to move their bodies and sell sexiness.
Look at EmRata in that video, she’s just standing there. Of the new girls I actually think Paloma tried to do the best, the rest are literally doing nothing for the camera. You compare this to the old what is sexy videos and you understand perfectly what VS tried to do here. They just don’t make them like they used to.
6 hours ago, Clauds said:Same, can't believe we're back here
That being said, they really should have kept this with the actual Icons: Naomi, Dri, Candice & Gisele. The rest are just meh and far from icon status anywhere
I think they included the other models for diversity and inclusivity purposes.
Looking at VS stocks
looks like business has not been good in past years.
It began when they dumped the VS Angels and started diversifying their models with different body types in an attempt to be more inclusive. Also...
"On August 2, 2021, L Brands (NYSE: LB) completed the separation of the Victoria's Secret business into an independent, public company through a tax-free spin-off to L Brands shareholders."
I'm sure there were other contributing factors.
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That video is about six months old, so she was still pretty much post-partum, it's not photoshop. She's in her 40s and had a kid, of course it's gonna take a while for her to get back in shape 
On 8/13/2023 at 5:49 AM, john.smith said:Looking at VS stocks
looks like business has not been good in past years.
Very interesting. They went from 80$ to now close to 20... such a downfall.
What do analysts say about the causes of this downfall?
They missed the inclusivity shift (see Savage x Fenty...) and remained elitist/fantasy-driven for too long. Also their stuff is expensive
9 hours ago, Siemgi said:They missed the inclusivity shift (see Savage x Fenty...) and remained elitist/fantasy-driven for too long. Also their stuff is expensive
I agree. All this stuff they are doing comes off as being disingenuous, performative, and an attempt to be "woke". Their stuff are somewhat pricey but I believe another issue is often the quality doesn't match the price point. While they have increased their prices, the quality has declined.
^ the mismatch between quality and price seems to be a good argument. I can see why sth like this annoys the customers.
On the other hand, the "inclusivity" thing doesn't convince me that much. From a purely "marketing" perspective (meaning that we put aside any political views), it seems that getting woke divides the customers and sometimes bring up huge backlash (like for Budlight).
I can't see it as a good marketing strategy, but I'm not an expert of the lingerie market, so I'd be really curious to see what analysts said (even though sometimes, analysts don't know what they're talking about as well 
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