Do you regard sex addiction as a legitimate illness?

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#21

Armchair observer! HAHA!

My views are that EVERYONE is sick in the head. Just merely being concious that you are a human being distinct from other human beings is a mental illness.

However, this degree of mental illness seems to serve a purpose to cope with the proposed hardships of living wheras other forms of mental illness such as addictions are miscalculated forms of coping.

As per cognative therapy itself, my thoughts are mixed, if they even justify that I've thought about it at all. If we are ill, then the doctor is ill. If the doctor is ill, how can he help the sick? It's a vicious cycle in this light but say that the doctor's level of illness is tolerable maybe he can help. The problem is that we have no definite way of measuring how healthy or sick someone's state of mind is. It's a level of mindfuck that should be treaded through very carefully. On one hand, you may be helping someone. On the other, by helping that person, you acknowledge that he is sick and perhaps causing damage to that person's state of mind. "If I believe I am sick, then I am sick." There is no other field in "medicine" where the placebo effect is so unpredictable and so dramatic.

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#22

I think cognitive therapy is best when demonstrated as practically as possible. I know this sounds like a "yeah, duh" thing to say but when applied institutionally it can be heavily watered down by naval gazing couch talk. I'm skeptical about the micro managed way in which I've seen some CBT graduates apply classroom theory. I agree with what you're saying, there's the potential for patients to almost indulge in the their diagnosis (or potential diagnosis) and become consumed by definitions and case study results. Its a balancing act. Make the academic material available but ultimately focus on the banal day to day aspects of the problems. Keep it real, grounded by circumstance.

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#23

Anything that internally and uncontrollably takes you from you normal functions in life can be considered an addiction, especially when its felt that it just has to be done. Some addictions just seem more pleasing than others..

Take a shopaholic .. that is not a bad addition if you think of it (mostly financially aproblem though).. but I guess its been considered that addictions are just an illness like any other psychological condition.

Can you imagine how much time sexual addiction can take away from your normal life functions? It can take hours and hours for to just to try to get the level of pleasure needed to fulfill this need. Working must be so difficult unless sex is your job .. can you imagine how much you would go with out food and necessary time to do the basic other needs of life.. this should be an out right disability, forget the illness part .. it can be so imoblizing.

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^thank you Fred for that insightful and in depth contribution

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#27

Waste of time, imho, both his, and everyone elses...

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#28

At first, your thread made me laugh. I’m wondered how people could be addict to something like sex. When we talk about an addiction, it’s often something painful, bad and I didn’t see where the pain could be in the sexuality.

It’s a bit stupid when we know I’m bulimic…

So I tried to focus on the sexuality, imagine than my addiction wasn’t bulimia but sexuality and I tried to imagine how could be my life.

When you’re a sex addict you need sex all the time.

Where can we find sex ?

Strip clubs, pornography, prostitutes, meeting on internet, meet people in special club or nightclub, sex toys... because when you are addict you need more and more... there is no overdose in the sexuality... and in the end i understood sex addict were lonely people.

All theses thing doesn’t really help someone to understand or meet new people. they are here to create a fantasme, create a event where the addict person can have a control on someone… and it’s remind me, serial killers psychology and in same time this is not so far of the bulimia where bulimics try to control their own bodies. Finally, the sex addiction it’s closer of bulimia than alcohol or drug addiction who stop this control.

What a sex addict look for ?

an addiction is often the reflect of a frustration and what they need is power, dominate other people without take care of their personality (like serial killers). So this is a very violent behavior, very regressive, where pulsations lead the wishes. and when we talk about sex and violence of course we think about rapes. rapes can be the results of a sexual addiction ? sometimes (maybe often) yes...

Now, I think it’s pretty hard to make the difference between a sex addict and someone who enjoys sex (and can have many different partners) and this is not because our laws and our religions have decided that we should be monogamists that we are all monogamists. it was like they decided that everybody should be straight and I don’t think homosexuality is a disease! But before, in the past, it was something that people said : I’m gay, I need to see a doctor.

as homosexuality, I don’t think polygamy is just a question of love, but can be sexual too

Maybe I’m wrong but I think Tiger Wood is more an active polygamist than a real sex addict... but in the end, I don’t know this man

Now, I think sexual addiction can be a real sickness, a way where you can put your furstration and don't think about your troubles, a way where i can control people and make everything you want, and in the end, you can be dependant but shouldn’t be used as the ultimate excuse.

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#29
Waste of time, imho, both his, and everyone elses...

I suppose he needed to be seen to do something publicly, so as to try and prevent further sponsors from dropping him. Whether it works, I don't know. Nor do I care. Because his absence might mean I finally win some money gambling on golf tournaments. Every cloud...

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#30
At first, your thread made me laugh. I’m wondered how people could be addict to something like sex. When we talk about an addiction, it’s often something painful, bad and I didn’t see where the pain could be in the sexuality.

It’s a bit stupid when we know I’m bulimic…

So I tried to focus on the sexuality, imagine than my addiction wasn’t bulimia but sexuality and I tried to imagine how could be my life.

When you’re a sex addict you need sex all the time.

Where can we find sex ?

Strip clubs, pornography, prostitutes, meeting on internet, meet people in special club or nightclub, sex toys… because when you are addict you need more and more… there is no overdose in the sexuality… and I the end I understood that sex addict were lonely person.

All theses thing doen’t really help someone to understand or meet new people. they are here to create a fantasme, create a event where the addict person can have a control on someone… and it’s remind me, serial killers psychology and in same time this is not so far of the bulimia where bulimics try to control their own bodies. Finally, the sex addiction it’s closer of bulimia than alcohol or drug addiction who stop this control.

What a sex addict look for ?

An addiction is often the reflect of a frustration and what they need is Power. Dominate other people without take care of their personality (like serial killers). So this is a very violent behavior, very regressive, where pulsations lead the wishes.

And when we talk about sex and violence of course we think about rapes.

Rapes can be the results of a sexual addiction ? sometimes (maybe often) yes…

Now, I think it’s pretty hard to make the difference between a sex addict and someone who enjoys sex (and can have many different partners…)

And this is not because ours laws and ours religions have decided that we should be monogamists that we are all monogamists… it was like they decided that everybody should be straight… and I don’t think homosexuality is a disease! But before, in the past; this is something that people say… I’m gay, I need to see a doctor.

As homosexuality, I don’t think polygamy is just a question of love… but can be sexual too

Maybe I’m wrong but I think Tiger Wood is more an active polygamist than a real sex addict… but in the end, I don’t know this man…

Now, I think sexual addiction can be a real sickness, a way where you can put your furstration and don't think about your troubles, a way where i can control people and make everything you want, and in the end, you can be dependant but shouldn’t be used as the ultimate excuse.

Grow old with me, you beautiful soul.

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#31

lol, the end of my message was a bit strange XD i forgotten few words and i wrote "i" instead of "you" i was tired XD

i will grow up with you, only if you enjoy to jump on the bed. i like trampoline (and sumo fight too. the wrestler costumes are crazy!)

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#32

Absobloodylutely, ring me up and we'll have a Bloody good time Hold on, SEX ADDICTION I'm in the bloody wrong thread!

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#33
i will grow up with you, only if you enjoy to jump on the bed. i like trampoline (and sumo fight too. the wrestler costumes are crazy!)

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#34

i'm spaming your thread

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#35

^ Greatest post in the history of Bellazon. BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#36

There is an addiction when you need always stay with somebody in sex, changes constantly, only make sex with the person and don' t feel nothing with him/her, need a lot of people to make it, etc and don' t think or do other things or activities. There are a lot of addiction, food, drugs, etc

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#37

Do you think people who practise anal sex have more health problems than people who don' t do it?

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