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I gave up on it halfway through season two. I do love season one, if it ever gets a Belgian DVD release, I intend to buy it.
without revealing anything from season 2 or 3, can you tell me why you think it's become so bad ?
I don't know. There's several reasons. Season two lacks something as powerful as the Lilly Kane murder plot. Secondly, I feel they messed up some of the characters during that second season. I'm talking mostly about Logan Echolls here, but it's true for several other characters to a certain extent. Thirdly, but this is probably more of a personal thing, I feel they were turning it into one of those shows where all the protagonists have a relationship with each other during the course of its run. Which I always find a bit absurd.

hahahaha i can't tell but if that's the case then i want to move to belgium.... i don't know why i have a thing for guys that speak weird languages like dutch or german![]()
I would stay in France,the weather is much better where you live
We don't speak Dutch we speak Flemish <_<
and german sounds much weirder and funnyer than Dutch i think
And how are you doing Ben?
And did you ski or snowboard?![]()
That's niceMaybe I'll be an interpreter
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Yeah
Study sucks, school rocks
I'd like to learn french, it's a cool language and also italian
the more languages the merrier
I think that being Brazilian you should learn Spanish instead of Italian
plus it's much more useful
I want to learn German, Italian, Russian and Catalan
I don't speak spanish but I understand pretty much everything, it would be really fast for me to learn it
I want to learn italian because I really like Italy ![]()
I studied german until last year but I was so terrible at it that I stopped
I was studying it also because I love Germany
I would like to speak norwegian or swedish because I love Norway and Sweden
But I think thay are like german so I won't learn it well
That's why the only languages I really want to learn is french and italian because they look like portuguese ![]()
Russian must be really hard with all those different letters
Catalan is like a mix of spanish and french, right?
And sorry for the late HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!hahaha obrigado
De nada ![]()

I gave up on it halfway through season two. I do love season one, if it ever gets a Belgian DVD release, I intend to buy it.
without revealing anything from season 2 or 3, can you tell me why you think it's become so bad ?
I don't know. There's several reasons. Season two lacks something as powerful as the Lilly Kane murder plot. Secondly, I feel they messed up some of the characters during that second season. I'm talking mostly about Logan Echolls here, but it's true for several other characters to a certain extent. Thirdly, but this is probably more of a personal thing, I feel they were turning it into one of those shows where all the protagonists have a relationship with each other during the course of its run. Which I always find a bit absurd.
This is right on all counts. I totally agree.
To elaborate on your first point, not only was the Lilly Kane murder plot powerful but it was very much tied to Veronica. She wanted to find out whether or not her father was justified in going after the Kanes. Learning the truth would provide some kind of sense that either yes, maybe her dad did botch the job by focusing too much on the Kanes or no, actually he was on to something. Also Lilly being her best friend obviously made it very close to her heart. Both of these things made you care about finding out who did it.
On your second point, that bugged me the most. I felt pretty much all the characters had been ruined. Besides Logan, Wallace is another one that stands out in my mind. Veronica also did some questionable things that they tried to justify but I never really cared for.
Third point, yes. Thank you. And the relationship becoming such a focus of the storyline is what has ruined the third season I feel.
Another thing, they start off with these plot lines that then fizzle out...sometimes it has to do with a character's development. They reveal a bit of information about a character. You think Oh FINALLY that character is going to stop being a one-dimensional jackass, but then it's never brought up again. :| And the character continues being a jackass. I'm thinking of Sheriff Lamb here. I don't know if you got far enough into the 2nd season, but yeahhhh...
:|
All in all, I agree with you.
Ben....keep your VM experience positive and stop with the first season. I wish I had ![]()

excellentwhat's the difference normally though?
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well literally, bon = good and joyeux = merry / happy
right... should've figured that out
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so did it get hot in the snowfields? ![]()
Maybe you saw Dennis. He was in Switzerland and still is. Don't know exactly where though![]()
maybe i saw him them
ask him which city he was in when he comes back
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We'll be in Nice in a couple weeks...so you might run into him there. Just make sure you don't run into him too hard.

Hi Ben.
Here is Elie Saab backstage vid as I promised
They're very catholic so sometimes they areyeah i agree
but i think ads are just... ads, it's like commercials or movies. If a guy rapes a girl it's cause he's sick, not because dolce&gabbana decided to have provocative ads
and maybe she steals their food too, that's why some of the girls are so skinny
i think it's american cause here (in europe) we use sizes from... say 36 to 42 for women (42 being quite big actually haha) - haha yes it'd better be, all the gossip about it @ tFS has set my expectations high :|
Dom & Stef just wanted the publicity. As if they needed any more ![]()
So Shannan is basically a thief in the model industry ![]()
36 to 42
I just hope that her mouth isn't open ![]()
it looks awesome
and i agree with Ack, you look great too
thanks so much for the pic
and nice job with the window
Thanks
Ack could've been talking about the window ![]()
You're welcome
I thought it would be better if I was looking at Inguna, rather than a window that is barely transparent ![]()
I never talk about windows ![]()

Maybe you saw Dennis. He was in Switzerland and still is. Don't know exactly where though![]()
maybe i saw him them
ask him which city he was in when he comes back
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We'll be in Nice in a couple weeks...so you might run into him there. Just make sure you don't run into him too hard.
what are you coming for ? and when ? and where exactly ? :| ![]()

I'm good, thanks. I know it's too late now but happy birthday, sweetheart.You do all of that ? ohmygod. :| and you still have time to come to BZ and have a life ?
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YESSS, that's the one. Thank you SO MUCH Ben.
haha it's never too late, thank you ![]()
it's only 19hours a week
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glad to help ![]()

I don't know. There's several reasons. Season two lacks something as powerful as the Lilly Kane murder plot. Secondly, I feel they messed up some of the characters during that second season. I'm talking mostly about Logan Echolls here, but it's true for several other characters to a certain extent. Thirdly, but this is probably more of a personal thing, I feel they were turning it into one of those shows where all the protagonists have a relationship with each other during the course of its run. Which I always find a bit absurd.
ugh that doesn't sound too promising ![]()
Ben....keep your VM experience positive and stop with the first season. I wish I had![]()
hahaha yeah i think i'm gonna do that
if i manage to fight temptation ![]()

I don't think i've ever seen that girl, you should ask Andrea, she knows every single person in the fashion industry ![]()

I would stay in France,the weather is much better where you live
We don't speak Dutch we speak Flemish <_<
and german sounds much weirder and funnyer than Dutch i think
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And how are you doing Ben?
And did you ski or snowboard?
i can go to belgium, pick some guys and go back to france ![]()
hahaha i know but isn't it very similar ? ![]()
both sound equally weird and funny, which mean they're both sexy in my books ![]()
I'm good, although i haven't worked as much as i expected today and i don't wanna go back to uni tomorrow
and i skied, i can't surf ![]()
how are you ? ![]()

I don't think i've ever seen that girl, you should ask Andrea, she knows every single person in the fashion industry
She already answered the question. ![]()
In fact, it was Andrea that posted that picture.

I don't speak spanish but I understand pretty much everything, it would be really fast for me to learn itI want to learn italian because I really like Italy
I studied german until last year but I was so terrible at it that I stopped
I was studying it also because I love Germany
I would like to speak norwegian or swedish because I love Norway and Sweden
But I think thay are like german so I won't learn it well
That's why the only languages I really want to learn is french and italian because they look like portuguese
Russian must be really hard with all those different letters
Catalan is like a mix of spanish and french, right?
yeah i speak little portuguese but i'm able to understand more things than i can say thanks to spanish
when it's written though, because your accent... :| the portuguese accent is particularly hard to understand, and they speak soooo fast
Brazilian is slightly easier ![]()
italian is cool but it's not spoken worldwide so if you want to use it in your job i don't think it's very useful unless you work in Europe ![]()
and Swedish and Norwegian are really cool but they ARE really hard to learn, just like Czech or Dutch IMO ![]()
I love the cyrilic alphabet, i think it's cool
and yus, catalan is kinda like a mix of spanish and french... just like portuguese is kind of a mix of spanish and french to me ![]()
I never talk about windows![]()
well thank u ![]()
I don't think i've ever seen that girl, you should ask Andrea, she knows every single person in the fashion industry
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Not true :| but I do know a few
including that model ![]()

She already answered the question.
In fact, it was Andrea that posted that picture.
figures <_<
so, who's that girl ? ![]()

right... should've figured that out![]()
so did it get hot in the snowfields?
haha how could you have figured that out ? ![]()
hahaha no unfortunately... i was desperate for some action in my hotel though :|