ILUVAdrianaLima
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Wow what a very manly response 
And I found that random onion ring thing you suggested at the American store
No I didn't buy it since onions are such a nasty flavour, but I got Pop Tarts, some Lays, Buncha Crunch, Sheila G's Brownie Brittle (which is completely delicious) and Laffy taffy 
I also got a Snapple 
Hey, I knowz what I like 
Ahaha, it tickles me that you have a "American Store" over there 
And girl you messed up! You should of bought just one bag of the Funyuns 
But heck, you sort of made up for it with the Laffy Taffy.
But hey, no Abba-Zaba, Big Hunk, Kit-Kat, Mr. Goodbar, Butterfinger, 3 Musketeers or my one personal fav Whatchamacallit? Seriously, look out for those next time! If you find a Whatchamacallit candy bar you are the best hunter around 
even when comparing different groups of BZ voters.
Hey, I knowz what I like
Ahaha, it tickles me that you have a "American Store" over there
But hey, no Abba-Zaba, Big Hunk, Kit-Kat, Mr. Goodbar, Butterfinger, 3 Musketeers or my one personal fav Whatchamacallit?
Of course we do There's always stores filled with imported stuff. They make a great lot of money too, order bulk junk and sell it for double the price! But I honestly hate onions so I would never ever buy a pack sorry dude
We have Kit Kats everywhere what makes an imported one special? I don't think they have a lot of those. They don't even have the tiny Pixy Stix packets but the giant straws and those just aren't edible. I need those tiny little Pixy Stix! 
^ Will do, just give me a day or so Ahem, read my latest message you!
I'm kinda annoyed I can't change the music on my profile to one song in particular because I know people on this forum will get super butt hurt over the opening lyrics.
^ Nice one, where is my tank at?
I'm kinda annoyed I can't change the music on my profile to one song in particular because I know people on this forum will get super butt hurt over the opening lyrics.
^ Oh what song would that be hun, you've peaked my interest now since people have become MSNBC and CNN PC crazy
This Cup of Nations Competition really fascinates me. On one hand, the ones I'm not into are usually paired together and on the other end, those that I somewhat like are paired together and so on. It really keeps it interesting. One of the many things I find interesting about these competitions is how Lindsay Elfson's results remain more constant than any other model I can think of. I've never been into her looks, but thought high fashion suited her better. I assumed her commercial crossover success was due to mainstream appeal and BZ is big into VS. Most people I know don't know non 'supers' so I can't really get a gage of any broader consensus. Why do you think it is she does so poorly here? That's not to say I expect her to dominate and I know its an odd question for someone I myself am not a fan of, but in scoring competitions she usually rates in the 3-4 range
Speaking of most people I know not knowing non 'supers' a very large number of people I've seen games (where we're forced to watch commercials) and such with always rave about Adriana and ask who she is. Well, they have for as far back as I can think of. I think she first got me in that Bob Dylan commercial and she got some new fans (among the casual American viewers) during the World Cup. Well, I've seen people ask about her in stores where they have those Maybelline posters too actually.
I tend to spread scores even on those I have no real emotional, visual or memory bank on. But Lindsay, hmm, what to think of her? She is like the VS variable constant as you mentioned She never was a huge girl for them or for the general public but she was there as a seat filler if that makes sense But of course that's not to say she is a gorgeous gal with a figure that would easily stir the dreams of many. Oddly enough, the hasn't really done anything too poorly and has taking her career to the possible extent her looks can along with her work ethic. If it aint broken why fix it eh?
Lima is quite the girl isn't she? 
She has a way of enamoring the public even if she isn't Hollywood popular. That is her key success I think, she is widely marketable to a VAST RANGE of people 
This guy said it best when a bunch of people started complaining about the word being used
it's an offensive word. but you're saying "gee guys couldn't you have used a more socially acceptable word in your transgressive goth punk band?". seems a little odd that you would be listening to a band called "christian death" in the first place.
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"Burning crosses on a nigger's lawn
burning dollars what's a house without a home?
dance in your white sheet glory dance in your passion"
I think here he's comparing the KKK and typical suburban American culture, in the second line (as I've distributed the lines), in an odd deviation from the normal religious subject matter, he criticizes our consumerism.
"talk about sugar on the six fingered beast
conversation about the holes in your hands
walk through the garden of men's desires
conversation about the kingdom of fire"
These are the values preached by Christianity to children- pleasure is evil, you are of god, and while you see pleasure around you, remind yourself of hell so you can ignore it.
"What's that moving in the basement?
What's that moving in the attic
Who's that walking in the shadow
Who's that walking in the streets"
And now the protagonist of the song starts to doubt his upbringing. He feels stirrings in both his loins and his mind, and finds himself walking the streets with the other punk trash and almost unable to believe his own actions because of his upbringing.
"(chorus)
Kiss on my hand
After dark
Kiss on my hand
After dark
Kiss on my hand"
In the scummy shadows our protagonist finds affection and love
"Romance in sequence Harmful to the blind
Burning hearts through the top of your skull"
Romance in sequence=promiscuity, which is frowned on by the "blind" (ignorant). The next part is just an expression of the strength of the strength of love.
"Dance in your white sheet glory
Dance in your passion
your days are numbered
with valium in your pocket
your days are numbered
with l,love in your eyes
Love?"
The specter of the protagonists christian upbringing returns, but it's days are numbered. The protagonist now has a Valium in his pocket to deal with heroin or alcohol withdrawl and love in his eyes. Although with the protagonists new dangerous lifestyle, his days are numbered too.
"Pull down the Sheets Take off your clothes
Get into bed I'm so tired"
And finally the specter of christian upbringing is gone. Let the sex begin.
Of course, this whole thing came from an attempt to render a meaning for EVERY SINGLE LINE.
And i honestly doubt every line has one. Consider this a fun little attempt to find a clear meaning for a very mysterious song.
But so, in summary, my guess is it's about rejecting your Christian values to live a life of drugs, and most of all, sex. But not loveless rutting. This song is about the victory of real genuine love over the christian conditioning the protagonist has which holds it back and makes him feel filthy about it.
Oh the lovely one liners these videos shall give you
This guy said it best when a bunch of people started complaining about the word being used
seems a little odd that you would be listening to a band called "christian death" in the first place.
The highlighted red really says it all and I go to George Carlin when it comes to "words". It's all about the context and user hun Rest in peace you dear good man.
Oh the lovely one liners these videos shall give you
Holy fucking mushrooms what the hell do you watch on your down time
"you're only beautiful from a distance"
I saw it on Facebook so I decided to find it on Youtube and I didn't regret it one bit
"I need this lifevest because I'm drowning in the pussy"
^ The randomness of those meandering one liners is what had me cracking up thru out that clip
Ah your favourite types of videos however
This one though
I found this old article from my time in a goth club called A Winter Gone By.
I was at this club every single week for years, this place became more of a home to me then my actual house was. This club helped to give me an identity, it helped shape who I am (and still am to this day), it gave me so many friends that I'm still close to today. btw I added pics of a woman they're talking about in this. I'll highlight her in red. To this day she's still one of my very best friends.
From music to fashion, a new generation of Goths gets spooky
By Neva Chonin
'IN THE BEGINNING, Goth created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Goth moved upon the face of the waters."
It's Saturday night, and the ornate interior of A Winter Gone By is alive with bodies waving to the somber howl of the Sisters of Mercy's "Lucretia." Death-rock kitsch rubs against Victorian elegance in a mosaic of velvet, lace, and patent leather as the dancers -- most of whom seem to be dancing with themselves -- pass each other with elastic precision, as though swimming in Jell-O. "I call it spooky dancing," giggles Terence, the dapper, raven-haired art director of butoh dance troupe COLLAPSING silence. As he speaks, a towering masked figure sprouting branches from its head glides past with the composure of a strolling shrub. Terence peers after the man with interest as the Sisters fade and a Beastie Boys track blasts over the sound system. The dance floor clears.
San Francisco has always had its Gothic elements, but the current scene -- something of a second wave following the initial surge of the mid-'80s -- began in 1992 with Club #6, known for its command to "Dance to the Sound of Machines Fucking." Then came the House of Usher, a split-level venue (one floor Goth, the other industrial), which started when Bat (Peter Stone, creator of the 1993 Lollapalooza Cyberpit) and collaborators Shawni and X decided that a new generation of Goths needed a space to call home. "It was more a sanctuary than a club," DJ Bat shouts above the roar of a Ministry song. "We wanted to have a place where people wouldn't get hit on or bothered because of the way they looked."
House of Usher closed in 1994 after the South of Market police sweeps forced the age limit from 18 to 21, effectively eliminating much of the club's clientele. Other clubs sprang up to fill the void: Temple, Tear Garden, and most recently, Monastery, which no longer hosts a regular night at the DNA Lounge but continues to sponsor concerts and special events. Also currently active are Death Guild, held Monday nights at the Trocadero, and Bedlam, a dark wave/ambient mix, Thursday nights at the French Quarter.
The current Goth linchpin is A Winter Gone By, a cavernous, multiroomed space in North Beach that houses a booming sound system, separate juice bar, lounge area, and romantic balcony space (for conversations requiring tones more intimate than a scream). In addition to dancing (spooky and otherwise), the club frequently hosts live shows by such local bands as Xorcist, Malign, and Switchblade Symphony. The decor is stylistically eclectic, landing somewhere between black-mass chic and Jazz Age elegance.
The Gothic aesthetic (of this century, anyway) can be traced back to the earliest British punk days and a circle of visionaries sporting sculpted haircuts and elaborate makeup who gathered at Seditionaries, a King's Road shop owned by Sex Pistols manager Malcolm McLaren and designer Vivienne Westwood. From there sprang a clique known as the Bromley Contingent, whose alumni include Siouxsie Sioux and Steve Severin of the Banshees and, more distantly, Adam Ant and Dead or Alive's Pete Burns. There was also the Damned's vampiric Dave Vanian, whose flamboyance was an anomaly in London's predominantly scruffy music scene. Punk was followed by Blitz, a dark reincarnation of glam rock (think very, very big hair) and then by the short-lived New Romanticism (think Spandau Ballet and puffy silk shirts.) Next came Goth, which blended the two styles into a singularly haunting signature.
The latest generation of Goths -- who good-naturedly tolerate the label for expediency's sake -- have forsaken the explosively crimped hair of the mid-'80 for buzz cuts or flowing 19th-century manes. Jwlhyfer de Winter, a regal blond given to opulent evening wear, has been part of Goth culture since 1981 and currently designs historically inspired couture with her partner Steven Gray under the trade name Dorian.Sibylla. For her, Gothic fashion fulfills a need for ritualistic expression. "Today there are no rites of passage, so kids create their own growing-up rituals," she explains. "And there are no mourning rituals, either; people aren't allowed to have any emotions about death. Being able to put on a mourning costume and show the world that you have feelings is a great validation."
"I think the television we grew up with had something to do with it," she adds. "We were kinda corrupted at an early age. My mother looked just like Morticia Addams; people used to stop her on the street and ask if she was Carolyn Jones."
Terence -- who views himself as more a "spooky boy" than a Goth -- also credits his mother for his affinity for darkness. "My mom was really into serial killers and I was a horror film fanatic," he recalls with a mischievous smile. "Then, in 1985, I discovered 19th-century French symbolists like Baudelaire and Lautremont and started getting into subversive bands like Throbbing Gristle, Psychic TV, and Coil. It was really dreamy, ethereal stuff with titles like 'Fields of Rape' and 'Jesus Wept.' There's a term I like that describes newer bands like Halfer Trio and Nurse with Wound -- sombient, which means dark ambient, almost like dark jazz."
A number of bands in the early '80s laid the gorgeously moody groundwork for later Gothic symphonics. The brilliant and blighted Joy Division, whose lead singer, Ian Curtis, hung himself on the eve of their first American tour, pioneered lush arrangements and a tortured, expressionistic lyricism. Nick Cave introduced an air of foreboding intellectual danger with the Birthday Party (and, later, the Bad Seeds). Siouxsie and the Banshees were instrumental in the formation of the goddess-with-a-crimping-iron archetype; and the Cure's Robert Smith (who briefly played guitar with the Banshees) broke new poetic ground in the band's Camus-influenced, prepop oeuvre.
But it was Bauhaus and its angstful vocalist, Peter Murphy, who were the true godheads of Goth. Mixing music and theater into a melancholic melange, they first achieved prominence with their legendary Bela Lugosi's Dead EP and went on to record four albums before dissolving in 1983. Meanwhile, the prototypical industrial band, Germany's Einsturzende Neubaten, were busy combining explosive machinations with equally explosive hair, while the Sisters of Mercy put richly orchestrated metal-pop in the charts with their 1983 single, "Temple of Love." A mid-'80s avalanche of electric mood music ensued that ranged from the woozy atmospherics of Fields of the Nephilim to the voluptuous paranoia of L.A.'s Christian Death. The list of bands and performers who influenced, or were influenced by, the Gothic paradigm runs the gamut from noise to inspired ambience: Skinny Puppy, Alien Sex Fiend, Throbbing Gristle (and its many offshoots), Ministry (ditto), Dead Can Dance, And Then the Trees, the Legendary Pink Dots, the Cocteau Twins, Bel Canto, This Mortal Coil, Diamanda Galas, ad infinitum.
And Goth said, Let the children under the heaven be gathered together unto one place... and it was so.
Terence's roommate, Bella, an alabaster beauty fond of flowing black dresses and eyeliner, says she became fascinated with dark music after seeing Bauhaus perform in the 1983 film The Hunger. Her pre-Goth days in Houston were spent seeking solace in the Romantic poets and the music of David Bowie, Iggy Pop, and the Velvet Underground. "It was the best I could do in Texas," she sighs. "Byron and Bowie kept me alive." She feels Goth clubs are useful for people like herself "who don't want to necessarily belong to something, but who want to be around others with a similar aesthetic. It's a kind of hopeful hopelessness. Even with all the pretensions and the superficiality, you're safe here. No one's going to stab you for dressing wrong -- unless you want them to."
Fashion is key to the Gothic sensibility Since the '80s, Goth bands have spawned a panoply of creative styles that arguably can be whittled down to romantic/ambient/dark wave on the one hand and hard-core Goth/industrial/death rock on the other. The romantic contingent leans toward more elaborate costuming: corsets, billowing shirts, acres of lace and tattered fabrics, and sweeping Victorian gowns. Industrial Goths prefer utilitarian black jeans, fishnet stockings, leather clothes and accessories, and your standard S/M gear. Both groups have a predilection for cross dressing, silver jewelry, tattoos, piercings, and puckishly pointed boots.
Some Goths, however, are growing weary of the fashion parade and the flagrantly incestuous nature of the scene. "It's all of the same people going to the same clubs; that's why they're all on different nights," chuckles Miss Erika, a droll 23-year-old who works in the publishing industry. "Then there are the people coming in from the 'burbs driving their parent's cars and wearing clothes from Hot Topic. The nasty, horrible realization seems to be that Goths are just like everyone else. It's uniform individuality."
Popular club deejay Jackal, a founding member of the current club scene, sees it differently. "Everybody likes to be liked, and I think a lot of the younger kids are searching for their identity," he says. "And the dressing up is always fun; who doesn't like to dress up and go out?"
Autumn, co-owner of a Hayes Street boutique called Dark Garden that specializes in "darkly romantic" Victorian corsets and wedding gowns ("just the right dress for a picnic in a graveyard") adds that the fashion aspect allows "a lot of people to be creative and put stuff together themselves. There's a great interest in costuming."
Listening to the ideological thrust and parry, it soon becomes obvious that, for all their alleged elitism, the Goth community embraces explorations into difference with an enthusiasm often lacking in a time marked by subcultural tribalism. And, pithy sniping aside, Goth aficionados demonstrate the fierce emotional affinity of a loving but dysfunctional family: they can't agree on anything except the fact that they can't live without each other. For many, clubs like A Winter Gone By are rich, phantasmagoric hideaways for the terminally romantic.
Carnell and Caria, publishers of the Gothically inclined alternative art magazine Carpe Noctem, retreated to the quiet of Cupertino to raise their two children after years in Goth society. Still immersed in the culture, they view their friends' foppery as a celebration of individual artistry. "It's a chance for them to put on the dog, dress up and wear something special," Carnell says. "There is a real beauty in sadness and a joy in melancholy. People who think it's maudlin just don't understand; they don't get past the window dressing."
Thanks to the Internet, which hosts innumerable Goth-oriented news groups, home pages, and sites, Goth culture has created a cyber-community that's become something of a club in itself. Jackal admits he doesn't know exactly where it's all heading. "I've watched it grow and change and twist," he says. "It really matters which clubs do well and how they influence the way people dress, what they listen to, and where they go."
And Goth saw every thing that it had made, and, behold, it was very good. Out on the dance floor, a girl in an ivory Victorian wedding dress performs a series of shifting tableaux beneath the flashing strobe light. Nearby, a woman in a shrouded wheelchair is doing her own brand of spooky dancing, using her arms to trace intricate designs against a backdrop of Siouxsie and the Banshees' "Face to Face." The strolling shrub, shuffling along the periphery, pauses before a young man dressed in full priestly vestments. The dark priest smiles beneficently and offers a blessing.
From Sept 10 post....
Well said about Carlin. I thought the same thing.
Pretty, those are some strong lyrics. I approve of them. They make one think.
Which is something that the youth of the world needs to learn how to do. Spoon feeding them is not solving anything. :: Sigh ::
Anyway, back to catching up!