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1 minute ago, jay_hk said:I get you - but she did it in such a boring way.. Looks great on the pics, but looks bad in motion, with no energy or presence (my opinion only tho - her face compensates but still was expecting more energy from her)
that's right, understand you too

3 minutes ago, Warhol said:Am I the only one tired of #BodyByIza ?
The fact that you're using that name for her, used constantly here, should really tell you you're not.
Can we please relax about the segments like the 'Hadid segment' that were sixty seconds max?
It's fluff. You're going to forget about it in four days max.

38 minutes ago, ltwilla103 said:
I don't know why the notion that Gisele was the biggest model ever still exist. It's always backed up by Forbes financial numbers that she constantly says are false. She's iconic and definitely top 10 of all time but nowhere near the best. If we were ranking on skill she wouldn't be in the top 20. There have been many interviews where Adri has been asked about Gisele and here's a recent one in 2015 on Bloomberg. I just don't like that Adriana is being used to put Ale down. They aren't the same people and Adriana has been an angel far longer. VS loves them both and they both outdid all the other girls because they have 16 years of show experience.
She answered the Gisele question as evenly as she did the questions before that. And she paused before answering, as she did with all the other questions, because it was a video/internet interview which means it will take a second or two before the questions will be a fully transmitted to the person being interviewed. And nobody is arguing she gets asked about Gisele in interviews.
And none of this even relates to the initial discussion. Ale third wheels to Adriana's career especially in VS. Simply pointing that out doesn't make one a hater or what not.
And sis, forget Forbes, have you seen Gisele's portfolio?

Does anyone have the solo commercials of Sara and Stella?
And it was only me who find the voice over the Stella perfume commercial the most awkward and weird thing?

1 minute ago, jay_hk said:I get you - but she did it in such a boring way.. Looks great on the pics, but looks bad in motion, with no energy or presence (my opinion only tho - her face compensates but still was expecting more energy from her)
Oke, it looks good on the pictures but reading your description is was poorly executed. I believe she copied that pose from 2010 the devil/angel segment, but don't remember that models name. Give me a minute.

Firstly I think that VS put a lot of trust in Josephine and she wasn't able to match. She use the swarovski and opened a segment, but she was better in the past years when she wasn't an angel yet, her walk was very slow and it seems she didn't know what to do with her arms, she was intimidated by Lady Gaga in MR and then played too much with Bruno Mars that she lost her timing and made the swarovski lose the highlight. That's mah opinion. ![]()

Just now, Warhol said:Firstly I think that VS put a lot of trust in Josephine and she wasn't able to match. She use the swarovski and opened a segment, but she was better in the past years when she wasn't an angel yet, her walk was very slow and it seems she didn't know what to do with her arms, she was intimidated by Lady Gaga in MR and then played too much with Bruno Mars that she lost her timing and made the swarovski lose the highlight. That's mah opinion.
I agree with you that she was much better last year.

3 minutes ago, Ludivine08 said:
Oke, it looks good on the pictures but reading your description is was poorly executed. I believe she copied that pose from 2010 the devil/angel segment, but don't remember that models name. Give me a minute.
Arms wide was Anja Rubink's style

While I'm here and bitchy, what a missed opportunity.


2 minutes ago, Warhol said:Firstly I think that VS put a lot of trust in Josephine and she wasn't able to match. She use the swarovski and opened a segment, but she was better in the past years when she wasn't an angel yet, her walk was very slow and it seems she didn't know what to do with her arms, she was intimidated by Lady Gaga in MR and then played too much with Bruno Mars that she lost her timing and made the swarovski lose the highlight. That's mah opinion.
+1 ![]()

2 minutes ago, Warhol said:Firstly I think that VS put a lot of trust in Josephine and she wasn't able to match. She use the swarovski and opened a segment, but she was better in the past years when she wasn't an angel yet, her walk was very slow and it seems she didn't know what to do with her arms, she was intimidated by Lady Gaga in MR and then played too much with Bruno Mars that she lost her timing and made the swarovski lose the highlight. That's mah opinion.
+1
She was way sexier last year, this year she was just cute and cried a lot ![]()

So people really believe all these girls are really bffs and hang out all the time in real life? The only people I can think of who seem to actually get along in real life are Elsa and Martha, Elsa and Josephine, Romee, Taylor and Jasmine. I think Adriana and Alessandra are friends but both live in two different cities and that obviously makes it harder to hang out all the time.

4 minutes ago, *Luna* said:So people really believe all these girls are really bffs and hang out all the time in real life? The only people I can think of who seem to actually get along in real life are Elsa and Martha, Elsa and Josephine, Romee, Taylor and Jasmine. I think Adriana and Alessandra are friends but both live in two different cities and that obviously makes it harder to hang out all the time.
I never thought Adriana and Alessandra are friends. They don't seem friendly to me at all.
Adriana and Lais perhaps.
Ale and Lily (their children have playdates sometimes together). Then again, Lily is 'friends' with everyone.
Romee & Taylor for sure are friends (they hang out privately all the time).
Jo used to hang out with Sara (and Stella), before VS days, but now she doesn't seem to.

4 minutes ago, *Luna* said:So people really believe all these girls are really bffs and hang out all the time in real life? The only people I can think of who seem to actually get along in real life are Elsa and Martha, Elsa and Josephine, Romee, Taylor and Jasmine. I think Adriana and Alessandra are friends but both live in two different cities and that obviously makes it harder to hang out all the time.
I think that only Taylor and Romee are friends.

Sooooooo.
I liked the Hadid segment xDDDDDDD It was simple but effective. And they look great.

3 hours ago, Cult Icon said:anybody have links (non-torrent?)

Overall comments besides the Angels I already posted: No credits for the Angels? Why?
The Road Ahead: liked the outfits actually - felt very couture and expensive
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Video about Paris - was cool
liked it a lot! PS: Stella’s throwback is the perfect example of what a good agent can do to a career! What a difference!!!
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Mountain Romance:
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PINK Nation: the most edited segment, made me dizzy and didn’t even follow the order of the models because there was so much happening (I think there’s more backstage footage than runway). Apart from that really loved this segment! My favourite PINK I think. Most of the girls did well!
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Josephine Segment: Not gonna comment again - waste of screen time, ugh. Would rather have Jasmine here with her FB. Besides, will we have the "This wings are made to fly" song every year? Cmon VS, there are other soundtracks.
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Hadid’s Video: VS can you please not? I still didn’t decide what is more fake: Gigi’s crying or Bella’s nose. Anyways this should have been something with the Angels and not them…
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Secret Angel: my favourite segment this year! Music was awesome and overall all the girls were great!
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Adriana video: my favourite video segment!
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Train like an Angel Video: seen that 10000x times; we get that they want to promote the VSX but it’s too repetitive IMO
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Dark Angel: best outfits; super sexy! Gaga outshines all the models but she gave an attitude lesson to all the (boring) models on how to work the runway at the end haha. BTW the Hat was valued in $1M (Jas FB has competition haha)
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Angels video: finally a video that “promoted” the Angels! Loved it
Good promotion for all the angels overall, with the HF and Commercial Crossover! (Stella’s Maxim was a bit of a joke tho)
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Bright Night Angel: one of my favourite segments! Music was just perfect and the energy was awesome!
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The Finale was so rushed we could barely see the angels in the end of the runway!
SORRY for the long post!

The ratings came in, the show sunk to a new series-low of a 2.1, still the strongest show of the night, beating out 8pm show the Voice (2.0)
For a ratings perspective, here are this season's top 10 Shows on the demo:
3.39 - The Big Bang Theory
3.36 - Empire
2.59 - This Is Us
2.32 - Modern Family
2.20 - Grey's Anatomy
the VSFS would be here
2.03 - The Simpsons
1.90 - Kevin Can Wait
1.89 - NCIS
1.88 - The Goldbergs
1.83 - Lethal Weapon
So it's not that bad considering how much broadcast ratings are falling overall.
I am still waiting on results that split the half-hours to see if viewers were drawn away or drawn to the TV screen. + The demos from 18-34 women, men and 18-49 women, men.

How sweet is this?

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-monday-dec-5-2016/
http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/victorias-secret-fashion-show-ratings-1201934728/
Victoria Secret show had the worst rating in its history, biggest loss was in adults viewers, only 2.1, worse even then last year.