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Corner
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#13961

Well then I’m glad she’s moved on from the society. She honestly needs a whole new team. I hope for her sake she makes some serious changes in her management especially now that she’s about to launch a skincare line

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lucyford
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#13962
51 minutes ago, Corner said:

Well then I’m glad she’s moved on from the society. She honestly needs a whole new team. I hope for her sake she makes some serious changes in her management especially now that she’s about to launch a skincare line

She also needs someone to manage her social media and tell her to post her work. Yes Adriana has gotten soooo much better about it. She at least posts about events for the most part and she’s pretty active on stories. But when was the last time she posted a maybelline picture? Im not sure people even know she works for Maybelline still. It’s clear Puma pushes her to post her work for them tho. Why has she not posted more pictures from Vogue Spain? Irina did like 7 posts about it. She only posted her covers. Is Full Picture (Andrea) supposed to be helping her with this?? Adriana needs to realize that IG is now a models portfolio almost.

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Souled-Out
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#13963
On 7/26/2019 at 2:55 PM, lucyford said:

@Souled-Out Yes Taylor is popular on social media but I think that’s because of her unique look as well. And yes she gets hired more for being popular but like I mentioned, I think it comes from her standing out with her eyebrows. I don’t see how else Taylor become that popular. She is a pretty mediocre model, she isn’t dating or linked to super famous people, and her IG posts are just like all the other angels. 

I think The Society wasn’t booking her for them for whatever reason. She just left The Society and now suddenly she has Vogue, Numero, and prob another cover with Zoey. And maybe she wasn’t opposed to this because as you mentioned, they don’t pay much. But I think Adriana is intrested in covers and more hf in general. She was clearly very happy with her Vogue covers.

 

Taylor is also more attractive than most of the other angels, so there is always that lol

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Souled-Out
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#13964
2 hours ago, lucyford said:

She also needs someone to manage her social media and tell her to post her work. Yes Adriana has gotten soooo much better about it. She at least posts about events for the most part and she’s pretty active on stories. But when was the last time she posted a maybelline picture? Im not sure people even know she works for Maybelline still. It’s clear Puma pushes her to post her work for them tho. Why has she not posted more pictures from Vogue Spain? Irina did like 7 posts about it. She only posted her covers. Is Full Picture (Andrea) supposed to be helping her with this?? Adriana needs to realize that IG is now a models portfolio almost.

 

I agree. We are seeing A LITTLE improvement from her social media post. Like she is posting more random photos from her life again as well as events, and she did post every single cover as soon as it came out. Thats new for her lol. Usually she is slow about posting new work. However, I do agree that there is no consistency. Like she posts once about her brands and thats it. Hopefully whoever is on her team now tells her that every now and then randomly post some of her recent work and deals. I think the brands would also greatly appreciate that, therefore she will be offered even more opportunities as well

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lucyford
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#13965
22 minutes ago, Souled-Out said:

 

I agree. We are seeing A LITTLE improvement from her social media post. Like she is posting more random photos from her life again as well as events, and she did post every single cover as soon as it came out. Thats new for her lol. Usually she is slow about posting new work. However, I do agree that there is no consistency. Like she posts once about her brands and thats it. Hopefully whoever is on her team now tells her that every now and then randomly post some of her recent work and deals. I think the brands would also greatly appreciate that, therefore she will be offered even more opportunities as well

She is only being consistent with Puma which I’m sure is cause they tell her when/what to post. 

Its hard to tell who Is part of her team now. Someone from CAA and Elite both posted her Vogue cover. And now I saw she’s following people who are part of IMG. And she hasn’t unfollowed The Society which I figured she would’ve by now but she liked a recent picture which she never did lol. 

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Souled-Out
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#13966
17 hours ago, lucyford said:

She is only being consistent with Puma which I’m sure is cause they tell her when/what to post. 

Its hard to tell who Is part of her team now. Someone from CAA and Elite both posted her Vogue cover. And now I saw she’s following people who are part of IMG. And she hasn’t unfollowed The Society which I figured she would’ve by now but she liked a recent picture which she never did lol. 

 

I think she also does because she always liked fitness to be apart of her brand anyway.

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laeteita
Posts: 5340
#13967

I don’t know if this is possible but all this drama about Vsfs got me thinking adriana was informed there will be no show this year ( or anymore). So she had to left earlier than she said she will. I can’t find any other reason.

for those who don’t know: 

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d4197c1e4b0db8affb171c3?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS50ci8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKpd4jRDnDdVBBzJ8clyR9H9ZSExZDSEZ7R4XwfUihFojl4GJtv-sTCA1k0F13J6vGjvHZmz8Cr8M8KsDrUlX0ECTccOsGl4GCv27-q1q_pNgg1icOWhpdgGh4MzLfa96xLMpXJQgnTCuW4svYN8jkMMMFqR0xFJopQt3tb3qFSg

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nhlovesadri
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#13968
22 minutes ago, laeteita said:

I don’t know if this is possible but all this drama about Vsfs got me thinking adriana was informed there will be no show this year ( or anymore). So she had to left earlier than she said she will. I can’t find any other reason.

for those who don’t know: 

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d4197c1e4b0db8affb171c3?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS50ci8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKpd4jRDnDdVBBzJ8clyR9H9ZSExZDSEZ7R4XwfUihFojl4GJtv-sTCA1k0F13J6vGjvHZmz8Cr8M8KsDrUlX0ECTccOsGl4GCv27-q1q_pNgg1icOWhpdgGh4MzLfa96xLMpXJQgnTCuW4svYN8jkMMMFqR0xFJopQt3tb3qFSg

I tought the same thing when I heard there wasn't going to be a show anymore a few months ago. She was with VS only to walk in that show every year at this point, so without that she had no reason to stay.

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lucyford
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#13969
35 minutes ago, laeteita said:

I don’t know if this is possible but all this drama about Vsfs got me thinking adriana was informed there will be no show this year ( or anymore). So she had to left earlier than she said she will. I can’t find any other reason.

for those who don’t know: 

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5d4197c1e4b0db8affb171c3?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS50ci8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKpd4jRDnDdVBBzJ8clyR9H9ZSExZDSEZ7R4XwfUihFojl4GJtv-sTCA1k0F13J6vGjvHZmz8Cr8M8KsDrUlX0ECTccOsGl4GCv27-q1q_pNgg1icOWhpdgGh4MzLfa96xLMpXJQgnTCuW4svYN8jkMMMFqR0xFJopQt3tb3qFSg

Adriana said in her Daily Front Row interview that she knew a year in advance that she was leaving. That leads me to believe VS was the one who wanted to end her contract (prob cause it was worth a lot more than the others and Vs is more cute/teenage vibes these days and they wanted room for the younger girls). This would also explain why Adriana wasn’t working and said she was losing her confidence that year. Adriana kept saying at the 2017 show and the viewing party that she wanted to do it until 40 at least. I don’t believe Adriana could’ve changed her mind that fast when VS is something she has always been consistent about. Contracts are signed in the beginning of the year which is I assume when it was decided Adriana would just sign a small contract where her only responsibility was the show at the end of the year so she could get her last show that would also bring media attention. This would also explain why she didn’t make the Forbes list that year as I’m sure VS didn’t give her much for her last year. I don’t believe she was the one who wanted to even end her contract. 

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laeteita
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#13970
16 minutes ago, lucyford said:

Adriana said in her Daily Front Row interview that she knew a year in advance that she was leaving. That leads me to believe VS was the one who wanted to end her contract (prob cause it was worth a lot more than the others and Vs is more cute/teenage vibes these days and they wanted room for the younger girls). This would also explain why Adriana wasn’t working and said she was losing her confidence that year. Adriana kept saying at the 2017 show and the viewing party that she wanted to do it until 40 at least. I don’t believe Adriana could’ve changed her mind that fast when VS is something she has always been consistent about. Contracts are signed in the beginning of the year which is I assume when it was decided Adriana would just sign a small contract where her only responsibility was the show at the end of the year so she could get her last show that would also bring media attention. This would also explain why she didn’t make the Forbes list that year as I’m sure VS didn’t give her much for her last year. I don’t believe she was the one who wanted to even end her contract. 

Totally disagree. She said she won’t leave the brand before her 20th show probably 10 times, even 4 months before her last show. 

She was the only one who worths money among the current angels but if you think it was the money issue, i’m sure both side would agree on a small contract.

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lucyford
Posts: 1791
#13971
38 minutes ago, laeteita said:

Totally disagree. She said she won’t leave the brand before her 20th show probably 10 times, even 4 months before her last show. 

She was the only one who worths money among the current angels but if you think it was the money issue, i’m sure both side would agree on a small contract.

That’s what I said, that Adriana herself kept saying she wanted to do it more years than she did. That’s why I think VS may have ended her contract, because for years she said she wanted to be there as long as she could. Whether she lied in her Daily Front Row interview about knowing a year in advance, I don’t know. Either she lied there or 4 months before her last show which you are referring to. I’m honetly not sure what she said 4 months before the show tho. If you are referring to her W mag interview when she said she hasn’t thought about stopping, she could’ve had to lie about VS when they asked her as it wasn’t ready to be announced. But those two interviews she did do not add up.

 

I wasn’t saying it was a money issue either. But Adriana’s contract was prob worth more than the 4 new angels combined. And the truth is Adriana is getting older and I’m not sure she fits the cute/teenage vibes VS is targeting these days. VS also makes questionable decisions so who knows.

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laeteita
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#13972
17 minutes ago, lucyford said:

That’s what I said, that Adriana herself kept saying she wanted to do it more years than she did. That’s why I think VS may have ended her contract, because for years she said she wanted to be there as long as she could. Whether she lied in her Daily Front Row interview about knowing a year in advance, I don’t know. Either she lied there or 4 months before her last show which you are referring to. I’m honetly not sure what she said 4 months before the show tho. If you are referring to her W mag interview, she prob had to lie about VS when they asked her as it wasn’t ready to be announced.

 

I wasn’t saying it was a money issue either. But Adriana’s contract was prob worth more than the 4 new angels combined. And the truth is Adriana is getting older and I’m not sure she fits the cute/teenage vibes VS is targeting these days. 

So you’re taking consider every possibilities including her being liar but somehow you’re ignoring the fact that it might because something both side couldn’t help with such as had to cancelling the show.WHY?

 

btw age couldn’t be the issue bc no angel would compete with her on looking young. 

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lucyford
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#13973
17 minutes ago, laeteita said:

So you’re taking consider every possibilities including her being liar but somehow you’re ignoring the fact that it might because something both side couldn’t help with such as had to cancelling the show.WHY?

 

btw age couldn’t be the issue bc no angel would compete with her on looking young. 

Well the two interviews do not add up.. that’s just the truth. I was just under the impression VS let her go because she said she knew a year in advance and was emotional all year about it. But it is possible she decided to leave too because the show was canceled. But then why did she tell W mag she had never thought of leaving Vs a couple months before the VS show?

I wasn’t trying to say her age was the issue. But VS is like a big pink section these days and I don’t think she really fits that image. Either way, I think she made the right decision in leaving.

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laeteita
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#13974
10 minutes ago, lucyford said:

Well the two interviews do not add up.. that’s just the truth. 

This doesn’t mean she lied. It’s obvious something changed in the time between these two interviews, something she can’t help with or something not up to her so she had to fit in ‘new’ circumstances.

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lucyford
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#13975
14 minutes ago, laeteita said:

This doesn’t mean she lied. It’s obvious something changed in the time between these two interviews, something she can’t help with or something not up to her so she had to fit in ‘new’ circumstances.

I wasn’t even trying to call her a liar. Whatever reason she had for saying this, I don’t know. But here you see she tells Daily Front Row she basically knew all of 2018 it would be her last. Yet here you also see she told W mag in September 2018, leaving hadn’t even crossed her mind. I’m not trying to call her out or anything just pointing out it’s hard to tell how things ended with VS when things like this dont add up.

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laeteita
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#13976
16 minutes ago, lucyford said:

 

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Thanks for the interviews now i think my statement is true. By saying “i knew for a year [beforehand] that it would be my last walk...”.  she means she knew the probability of show would be cancel IMO. 

Second interview was not only about vs btw she talked about her doing runway in general.

 

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lucyford
Posts: 1791
#13977
1 hour ago, laeteita said:

Thanks for the interviews now i think my statement is true. By saying “i knew for a year [beforehand] that it would be my last walk...”.  she means she knew the probability of show would be cancel IMO. 

Second interview was not only about vs btw she talked about her doing runway in general.

 

In the second interview, that was actually a follow up question about Vs. she was asked 3 questions about Vs before that last question was asked. Unless maybe she didn’t interpret it to be just about Vs? 

But I don’t know if Adriana would just leave because of the show being done. Obviously that was her favorite part about that contract but I’m not sure she would leave just cause there wasn’t a show. Also did Vs even know that that was going to be the last show? Because remember there is a new CEO since Adriana left whom was the one to make this decision. I would think they wouldn’t have just made it a Adriana farewell if they were already planning this.

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ekn
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#13978
4 hours ago, laeteita said:

I don’t know if this is possible but all this drama about Vsfs got me thinking adriana was informed there will be no show this year ( or anymore). So she had to left earlier than she said she will. I can’t find any other reason.

 

This is the only LOGICAL reason to believe.  If an angel who signed like yesterday was given the info that show won't be on TV/ or got cancelled Adriana definitely knew it long before. Can't remember the girl's name at the moment but one of the newest angels already leaked the info about the show months before. 

I believe not only Adriana, probably everybody knew this because cancelling the show is a big deal for the VS, they can't decide to this over night. Adriana rarely worked any VS events in her last years with brand so if show is really cancelled or won't be on T.V. i think we found reason of her early departure.

 

I'm glad she already left. Ship is officially sinking; 

Everyone Knows Victoria's Secret Is Falling Apart — Except the Brand Itself

https://www.instyle.com/news/victorias-secret-new-ceo-controversy-sales-decline

 

Victoria's Secret will close 53 stores as struggles mount

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/28/business/victorias-secret-stores-l-brands/index.html

 

Victoria's Secret May Be Dying—But for Plus-Size Women It Never Really Lived (instyle)

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/victoria-apos-secret-may-dying-203000785.html 

 

Victoria's Secret reportedly continued to work with a modeling agency after it was accused of supplying underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein

https://www.businessinsider.com/victorias-secret-used-jeffrey-epstein-linked-modeling-agency-report-2019-7

 

 

 

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lucyford
Posts: 1791
#13979
15 minutes ago, ekn said:

 

This is the only LOGICAL reason to believe.  If an angel who signed like yesterday was given the info that show won't be on TV/ or got cancelled Adriana definitely knew it long before. Can't remember the girl's name at the moment but one of the newest angels already leaked the info about the show months before. 

I believe not only Adriana, probably everybody knew this because cancelling the show is a big deal for the VS, they can't decide to this over night. Adriana rarely worked any VS events in her last years with brand so if show is really cancelled or won't be on T.V. i think we found reason of her early departure.

I think this is possible but I think VS would’ve wanted to promote the 2018 VS show as the last one to bring even more attention to it. I think this must’ve been decided by the new CEO who came into the picture AFTER Adriana left. Obviously the models have known for a bit now but I remember it was just a few months ago when Candice posted a story about prepping for the VS show. 

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laeteita
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#13980
1 hour ago, lucyford said:

 Because remember there is a new CEO since Adriana left whom was the one to make this decision. 

Ok imagine there is a man with a knife in his chest and the only way to save his life is removing it as soon as possible. His doctor is getting ready for surgery but all of a sudden the doctor injured himself by a lancet and now he is not able to do operation. So they immediately called another surgeon to operate surgery. Do you think the new doctor would leave the knife in the chest while the only way to save his life is removing it?

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