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On 3/20/2021 at 6:11 PM, Iriana said:

 

Um... did you really just type all that? Chile...

 

Adriana is the arguably the most sellable active model in terms of name recognition alone which is why the direction her career has been going of late has been irritating to watch. I have been a supporter of hers for many, many years. I am well within my rights to critique her career whenever I see fit - just as you feel the need to write a thesis on the very few comments I have made in her general discussion. It cannot be denied that Adriana was silly to create a GMAIL email address, posting it on her IG, and declaring herself as taking control of her career. Then later posting something about acceptance of older women in fashion etc. That is not a good look. It does not give the impression that work is coming in. 

 

At this stage of her career, as she ages out of the industry, she should be relying on whatever management relationships she has already established to move on to bigger and better things. It is not the best time to put things in her own hands. It goes without saying that she is a better model than Irina, however, Irina has capitalised on every single opportunity that has come her way. Whether you think she got it on her back or her knees, she did the damn thing. That doesn't take away from the fact that Adriana has not lived up to her full potential since leaving VS. She is not social media savvy and does not push herself out there as other high profile models do. If she did handle social media more effectively, I'm sure her career would be more active right now. There's a reason why so many are on this forum always asking what's next, what's she up to, where's she going... then nothing. I am well aware of Adriana's work alongside Irina. I am not an Irina stan - I do not stan models or celebrities. I am grown. I post on here sporadically and will continue to freely express my opinions, positive or negative. Have a good day!

Did you really just typed two large paragraphs yourself. Just like Irina did x, y and z to finally get where she is. Adriana also did what she had to, Adriana comes from fucking nothing. You're acting like she is lazy 25 year old. She is 40 and has nothing to prove and you don't know what she is doing or WANTS to do right now-she actually removed that email link. What you should know is that she has done too much and still did more than the others for you to talk like that, and she did it the harder way. Adriana BEEN talking about older models in Fashion AND overall representation,  she did in an interview in 2019 while promoting a campaign that she was in.  You keep ignoring that Adriana was doing work up until Covid. The fact that you are ignoring it makes you look like a hater, "grown"  or not. All that first work and the success she had up until covid and you're undermining it completely.

Everybody is tired of you coming in here comparing Adriana to models who couldn't even keep up with other models such as Adriana, at the time that she should have been. It is an oxymoron to try to drag Adriana in comparison. And you have done it whether or not Adriana had an agency. You have done it when Adriana was more active. You're not admitting the work Adriana has done between 2018-early 2020, that was without an agency anyway: Adriana has been without one since 2018 according to her post. Adriana had a campaign for MiuMiu in 2018, BCBG in 2019, and MaxMara in 2020, and Vogue Covers and puma and the glasses, her deal with Chopard's and Maybelline also in between those years. Who gives a shit about social media and what other social media era models do when you're already an iconic supermodel and has been working consistently from ages 16-39, she BEEN doing the damn thing. When Irina has that many years and broke records like her, then you can talk.

Irina and the rest of the models in this generation are NO type of standard for Adriana if anything its the reverse.

On 3/12/2021 at 12:33 PM, laeteita said:

It’s like Déjà vu. Same thing happened with Maybelline, even pregnant maybelline girl aka Gigi Hadid did promotional things but Adriana didn’t do anything. Now pregnant Karolina managed to work for IWC but no Adriana...

I seriously can’t wait.

Another brand deal SOME people forgot she has done since leaving VS was her deal with Chopard's in 2019, she had a campaign with them. Thats Jewelry and they sell watches. We haven't seen Adriana work with IWC since she worked with Chopard's in 2019. So that deal has been over with actually. Because they are both Jewelry and it would be a contradiction in terms of contract. I don't recall Karolina having another jewelry brand deal outside of IWC so it makes sense she was still there.

I think that was a good move on Adriana's part because she had been working with SWC since 2011. Chopard's is another brand under her belt. So IWC was crossed out when she got another deal

Bold of you to assume Adriana actually wants to be working that much, sis is nearly 40, has two children and is rich. Why would she go out of her way to do those jobs? I'm sorry but Adriana doesn't need to be working to stay relevant, she doesn't need to rely on social media or her private life to book jobs. I'm pretty sure she's prioritizing other things in her life now over flying to some place for two days for an editorial or a show, I think the fact that she moved to Miami instead of staying in NYC says a lot about what she wanted. And particularly during 2020 I can see why she decided to just stay put in Miami, expecting her to have been traveling for would be ridiculous. 

I'm sure she still wants to keep working, but she'll do it in her own terms, she already accomplished every modeling goal she had when she was in her 20s. I adore her and of course wish we'd see more of her but I can also understand that she's now taking exclusively the jobs she truly wants, instead of taking whatever she is offered. She doesn't need the PR, she doesn't need the money, she doesn't need more connections.

Why to defend Adriana you need to atack other models? I dont see that in other threads.

4 hours ago, Light72B said:

Why to defend Adriana you need to atack other models? I dont see that in other threads.

Why to praise other models like Irina, attack Adriana? This is Adriana's forum not Irina's, thats not gonna be okay here.  I don't see THAT in other threads. Nobody is going in Irina's thread and shooting her down for not having the career of Gisele , Adriana, or Naomi. SO ya'll don't come in Adriana's thread to shoot her down for not having 1 year, out of 20, like Irina. Don't be a hypocrite. A person can criticize Adriana without constantly comparing her and shooting her down for the same model. If you all don't want people being honest about Irina, don't bring her up here. WE did not bring up Irina here, fans are and that leaves open space for her to be criticized as well.

Also you are missing the point that the person basically wants her to behave like models of this generation, when Adriana herself is not from the generation, she is beyond that. It is important that its recognized

I think it is fair to say Adriana wants to work. Not like a model scrambling around all over the place trying to make a name for herself of course. But she had said during covid when she wasn't working that she missed working and was excited about working with people in her no agency post. Yes Adriana is a mom and already rich. But I don't think she wants to be sitting around home by herself sometimes since her time with her kids is split with Marko after all. Like currently they are vacationing without her. So I dont think that plays a big roll in her situation in terms of being able to travel for a couple days since she cant have them 24/7 either way. Also, Adriana has been living in Miami since like 2008, lets not act like she just made the move and it is supposed to be a sign of her taking a step back. Nor is it far from NY. This past year tho it is unfair to have expected Adriana to have been traveling much. She did a couple times and we still dont know what it was for. 

I do think it would benefit her most to go back to having a team. But it is also unfair to act as if Adriana literally did nothing before covid. Seems like some are forgetting that was one of her most busy years in a long time. 

Also, none of the usual users on here wanted to talk about other models here. But if you come in to talk down about Adriana by comparing her to another model, you should expect people to defend Adriana rightfully so.

I agree that AT THIS POINT we don't know what Adriana has going on or even planned.

Like we haven't even seen her at the gym because she hasn't even been sharing that. It was last year when she made that statement, and she actually removed that email from her bio. That is for a reason. So, at this point we don't know how people are going to be able to contact her for stuff. We do not know why this change was made but it has to mean something.

Clearly some things have changed and we do not know what. We do not know what she is up to or her next plans, or where she wants to head as of now. But I don't agree with anybody talking about her as if she is a half accomplished 25 year old model who is lazy and letting people down. She is allowed to do what she wants after 20+ years, she's grown too, let her figure it out and be more real with how great her career has been thus far as well as her impact. And yes, as I stated she had one of her most active years between 2018-early 2020 (before covid)

But Adriana's fans are the ones that bring other models name! Constantly! It's obvious someone else's success is bothering people in this thread whether you want to accept it or not. And Adriana deserves better than that.

@Light up it is not usual for people to ever talk down about other models here to lift up Adriana. Adriana does not need that, her own career can speak for itself. In this case tho, it is understandable why it happened. Because someone decided to bring down Adriana by comparing her to another model. It was not said for no reason. It isn't like Adriana fans went to another models thread to bring them down. It was the opposite. No reason to call out the person who was defending Adriana on her own thread. I think your comment would have been better suited for the user who came in here to "attack" Adriana in the first place. 

2 hours ago, Light72B said:

But Adriana's fans are the ones that bring other models name! Constantly! It's obvious someone else's success is bothering people in this thread whether you want to accept it or not. And Adriana deserves better than that.

You need to read again, someone ELSE came in here bring Adriana down in comparison to Irina-another model. You're literally acting as if we were talking badly about other models here. We were not. Stop lying, you need to accept that, if ya'll don't want people talking about your favorite models, DO NOT bring them up to try to attack Adriana in her own forum. That is how this started and YOU need to accept that. Wasn't nobody talking about other models until the other Irina stan came in. If you all don't want people talking about other models, don't try to use them to bring Adriana down, PERIOD.

Adriana deserves better than to be put down for other models who still aren't on her level and ya'll deserve to know that too 💖

Who is Adrianas boyfriend now?

@LL04 pass Lika9913 No one I know about at least. 

I just realized that Adriana's rate is probably super high esp with her status and name recognition. I think it would be hard to book her considering all her campaigns are long contracts. Also when you think about it, what hasn't she done at this point...she has had fragrance, jewelry/watch, sports, and cosmetic campaigns amongst many others. It's crazy how illustrious her career is

Again from that deuxmoi account:

8 hours ago, secretlife2000 said:

I just realized that Adriana's rate is probably super high esp with her status and name recognition. I think it would be hard to book her considering all her campaigns are long contracts. Also when you think about it, what hasn't she done at this point...she has had fragrance, jewelry/watch, sports, and cosmetic campaigns amongst many others. It's crazy how illustrious her career is

Exactly. Adriana has not only reached a great supermodel status, but she actually has one helluva OVERALL career. Sure, she doesn't have the most Vogue covers because she was rising at a time where it truly was hard to get one, even Tyra had to retire with only one Vogue cover and Heidi only has like 4, it was hard. But outside of that Adriana def has an exceptional career, the only thing she hasn't done is a hair campaign and skincare. But she did basically everything else, and was highly successful at it too. Even when she sold cellphones, everybody remembered her for doing that. Anytime she does something its actually remarkable

It seemed Adriana wanted to do more hf when she left VS. We saw her back doing editorials during that time. It is prob where she lacks most in her career. But only because her commercial career was that successful. So it is unfortunate when people downplay her supermodel status because she doesn't walk the most shows or doesn't have the big 4 Vogue covers. 

4 hours ago, Souled-Out said:

 

Exactly. Adriana has not only reached a great supermodel status, but she actually has one helluva OVERALL career. Sure, she doesn't have the most Vogue covers because she was rising at a time where it truly was hard to get one, even Tyra had to retire with only one Vogue cover and Heidi only has like 4, it was hard. But outside of that Adriana def has an exceptional career, the only thing she hasn't done is a hair campaign and skincare. But she did basically everything else, and was highly successful at it too. Even when she sold cellphones, everybody remembered her for doing that. Anytime she does something its actually remarkable

Can confirm about the TIM commercials here in Italy, those around my generation (90s) all remember the 2004-05 commercials with her even if they don't know who she is, just Adriana from the TIM spots. Basically the two famous Adrianas in poular culture here are the one from Rocky and her from TIM lol I discovered her this way myself

Also, watched a Gisele interview yesterday and she talked about how at that time it was very risky to even accept a VS contract if you cared about wanting to be a Vogue kind of model. She said she had a long talk with agent before accepting VS  contract because they warned her, signing a contract like that is basically like committing to commercial modelling and not Vogue. Clearly someone like Gisele made it happen, but it explains the careers of Tyra, Heidi, etc and to an extent Adriana's. Adriana STILL did well enough, she has alot of HF campaigns actually and 2/4 of the Big Four. But yeah, it wasn't easy getting that alone and the Vogue covers she does have because Adriana def committed herself more to commercial, but she still has a better hf career than most other VS angels. But yeah overall, her career is rare and in a good way . She has alot of bragging rights and thats what gave her the supermodel title.

6 hours ago, Souled-Out said:

Also, watched a Gisele interview yesterday and she talked about how at that time it was very risky to even accept a VS contract if you cared about wanting to be a Vogue kind of model. She said she had a long talk with agent before accepting VS  contract because they warned her, signing a contract like that is basically like committing to commercial modelling and not Vogue. Clearly someone like Gisele made it happen, but it explains the careers of Tyra, Heidi, etc and to an extent Adriana's. Adriana STILL did well enough, she has alot of HF campaigns actually and 2/4 of the Big Four. But yeah, it wasn't easy getting that alone and the Vogue covers she does have because Adriana def committed herself more to commercial, but she still has a better hf career than most other VS angels. But yeah overall, her career is rare and in a good way . She has alot of bragging rights and thats what gave her the supermodel title.

I love how versatile her generation of supers is. You have doutzen, adriana, liu wen, joan ++, so professional, they make everything classy; I think Adriana did well in HF considering she was literally the face of VS. She can pull off sultry and mature which serves her really well, unlike the new crop of VS girls that look very "girl next door". I particularly love her Marc Jacobs campaign...it was so Adri. Also, I think people tend to forget that she started in HF...she did a lot of runway before she started doing commercial jobs

15 hours ago, secretlife2000 said:

I love how versatile her generation of supers is. You have doutzen, adriana, liu wen, joan ++, so professional, they make everything classy; I think Adriana did well in HF considering she was literally the face of VS. She can pull off sultry and mature which serves her really well, unlike the new crop of VS girls that look very "girl next door". I particularly love her Marc Jacobs campaign...it was so Adri. Also, I think people tend to forget that she started in HF...she did a lot of runway before she started doing commercial jobs

Exactly, Adriana already started working in Vogue and had HF campaigns BEFORE becoming a VS angel. It was further proof that being with the brand can stall things more for you in HF. But the fact that she was already granted first rate work before he contract hit, says something