General Discussion

On 2/3/2019 at 11:49 PM, Corner said:

@Souled-Out I actuailly forgot about the Miu Miu campaign lol. This is actually her 3rd Miiu Miu campaign. Her first one was with a group of girls including Doutzen, second one was with them Daphne G. I mean if she gets one hf campaign every season, that’s honestly enough for me.

I don’t consider her 2013 Versace campaign as Versace because it was a collaboration with some Brazilian brand right? I want her to get a proper one.

I know she’s walked for Versace several times but to me, it’s honestly an insult if you have a model of her caliber walk for you without giving them the campaign. Unless they’re being paid to walk just like when models walk exclusively for brands. I remember Abbey Lee Kershaw was paid a 100 thousand dollars to walk for a show exclusively a few years back

I'm curious about the group of photos Adriana did about Versace Haute Couture in 2003. Because many people said it is a camapign, but some people say it is a show. The problem is that don't seem to be any shows only inclouding two models.

I read an article today about her return to Victoria's Secret, actually i read many since her return. So far what i understood is, VS is going to use Adriana's current ''imperfect'' look/figure to create some variety that society ask for. They collobrated with her becasue she is not at ther perfect figure?

8 minutes ago, patt said:

I read an article today about her return to Victoria's Secret, actually i read many since her return. So far what i understood is, VS is going to use Adriana's current ''imperfect'' look/figure to create some variety that society ask for. They collobrated with her becasue she is not at ther perfect figure?

Considering they want a company with a more politically correct image to wash the company's image over the scandals of the past few years, it makes a lot of sense. They can sell that Adriana now has a less canonical body since she is not as skinny as she was in her last years in VS and that she is older, representing body positivity and mature women.

12 minutes ago, borg said:

 

Considering they want a company with a more politically correct image to wash the company's image over the scandals of the past few years, it makes a lot of sense. They can sell that Adriana now has a less canonical body since she is not as skinny as she was in her last years in VS and that she is older, representing body positivity and mature women.

Ugh I hope not. But I have read articles and that is not what I got from her interviews

That branding has not worked well for VS and it CERTAINLY won't work well for Adriana, I am sure she knows this by this point. Like that body shaming she is still experiencing now (because her face is still bloated) is def no joke and people will not cut her slack until she is at her normal size.  its not a good idea she just let herself go as someone who wants to continue to model and who is from the 00s. Plus Adriana herself knows she never gave "model" when she is heavier. Adriana was already dragged and bashed by the REAL body positivity community, even before this VS stuff she was being shut down by them. She should leave that shit alone and just work on herself and worry about herself

So I don't agree with this direction and I hope its not even true because this has not been working out well for VS. And it also has not worked well for Adriana. She doesn't need to mess up her career and image over something like this. The real body positivity community literally shunned her, Adriana should not still be trying to stick herself into that community. Do go chasing waterfalls, stick to the rivers and lakes that you're used to.

39 minutes ago, patt said:

I read an article today about her return to Victoria's Secret, actually i read many since her return. So far what i understood is, VS is going to use Adriana's current ''imperfect'' look/figure to create some variety that society ask for. They collobrated with her becasue she is not at ther perfect figure?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/22017824/victorias-secret-angels-adriana-lima-return-help-brand/

This article wasnt written by anyone in VS. As far as I know, VS has not even spoken about WHY she was asked back. VS has plenty of plus sized model these days. And Adriana isnt plus sized by any means. If thats what you meant by "imperfect figure". I dont think she was asked to come back for that reason. I think the primary reason would be because of her history with the brand. The article was talking about her and potentially other former angels returning to represent "mature" woman. 

19 minutes ago, Souled-Out said:

 

Ugh I hope not.

 

That branding has not worked well for VS and it CERTAINLY won't work well for Adriana, I am sure she knows this by this point. Like that body shaming she was experiencing def eventually bothered her, and she has been working out and losing weight consistently still. As she should. its not a good idea she just let herself go as a model who is from the 00s. Also Adriana was already dragged and bashed by the REAL body positivity community, even before this VS stuff she was being shut down by them.

 

So I don't agree with this direction and I hope its not even true because this has not been working out well for VS. And it also has not worked well for Adriana. She doesn't need to mess up her career and image over something like this. The real body positivity community literally shunned her, Adriana should not still be trying to be apart of that community after that.

It's important that Adriana accept herself as she is, on the one hand it's good that she lose weight and keeping doing exercise but without losing her mind, I don't see it as a good thing that she tries to recover, at 42 years old, 3 children and 3 stepchildren, the body that she had a few years ago, so on the one hand it doesn't seem bad to me that she embraces body positivism, despite the fact that that community will always throw her words about the extreme diet she did before the VS fashion shows in her face.

In any case, I don't like her working with VS again. Obviously it's her decision and she will surely be paid very well, but I think that VS is a company adrift. In fact, I think that both Adriana and Alessandra or Candice should have stopped working with VS like in 2014. VS already looked like it was a sinking ship, the quality of the shows (from lingerie shows to practically music festivals) and the prestige of the brand (from 4 or 5 exclusive angels to 8, 10 and even 12 angels) had long since disappeared, even before the scandals that rocked the company in the following years.

Now it seems like they want to get the show back trying to please everyone, I guess having several plus size models, 50 or 60 year old models, trans and all that in the show. It even seems that they want to eliminate the concept of angel, which seems to me a huge mistake, that was one of its main strengths, something that differentiated the company. Basically looks like they're going to try to copy Rihanna's Savage X Fenty Show, but if you don't have Rihanna, it's practically impossible not to be a flop.

13 minutes ago, borg said:

 

It's important that Adriana accept herself as she is, on the one hand it's good that she lose weight and keeping doing exercise but without losing her mind, I don't see it as a good thing that she tries to recover, at 42 years old, 3 children and 3 stepchildren, the body that she had a few years ago, so on the one hand it doesn't seem bad to me that she embraces body positivism, despite the fact that that community will always throw her words about the extreme diet she did before the VS fashion shows in her face.

 

What does Andre's kids have anything to do with her trying to get back in shape? I disagree that Adriana should have had the baby and basically do nothing and accept it simply because she's 41 and has 3 kids. Adriana is a model at the end of the day. So it's part of her job. Obviously I don't think she should be doing anything unhealthy to lose weight. But she's lost most the weight at this point and seems to want to continue working on that. Fitness was also part of Adriana's brand. 

3 minutes ago, lucyford said:

What does Andre's have anything to do with her trying to get back in shape? I disagree that Adriana should have had the baby and basically do nothing and accept it simply because she's 41 and has 3 kids. Adriana is a model at the end of the day. So it's part of her job. Obviously I don't think she should be doing anything unhealthy to lose weight. But she's lost most the weight at this point and seems to want to continue working on that. Fitness was also part of Adriana's brand. 

I haven't said anything about André. It's just that Adriana now no longer has only her children, but also André's children to take care of, just as André has to take care of Adriana's children, as a good family. And at the end of the day, that's a lot of children to take care of, which consume a lot of time and energy. I'm not saying that Adriana simply shouldn't do anything to lose weight, on the contrary, I think it's great that she does, that she continues to go to the gym, that's healthy. But we have to accept that a 42-year-old model who has to take care of several children cannot have the body of a 34-year-old model. And it's good that the fashion world is beginning, little by little, to accept this and stop demanding 38 or 40-year-old models to look like 26-year-olds.

1 hour ago, borg said:

 

I haven't said anything about André. It's just that Adriana now no longer has only her children, but also André's children to take care of, just as André has to take care of Adriana's children, as a good family. And at the end of the day, that's a lot of children to take care of, which consume a lot of time and energy. I'm not saying that Adriana simply shouldn't do anything to lose weight, on the contrary, I think it's great that she does, that she continues to go to the gym, that's healthy. But we have to accept that a 42-year-old model who has to take care of several children cannot have the body of a 34-year-old model. And it's good that the fashion world is beginning, little by little, to accept this and stop demanding 38 or 40-year-old models to look like 26-year-olds.

They have a nanny. Adriana also has a personal chef. So i dont think she is being overworked cooking and cleaning after all those kids. She has people to take care of that. Andre's mom has shown Adriana had 5 people working in her house with the kids, cooking, and cleaning. And we dont even know how invovled she is with his kids. Andre seems to have no issues leaving them to follow Adriana on her trips while she works and he is just there for no good reason. So who knows how involved he even is.. Because it seems they have also flown his mom over to take care of them for him.

I personally think its fine and probably best for Adriana that she wants to keep working out and being healthy and all that. Shes come a long way already. She was very big in Qatar in December. I dont think she was doing much prior to that. But started working on it at the start of this year and I think she practically lost most the weight now. Which is impressive considering where she was in December.

42 minutes ago, lucyford said:

What does Andre's kids have anything to do with her trying to get back in shape? I disagree that Adriana should have had the baby and basically do nothing and accept it simply because she's 41 and has 3 kids. Adriana is a model at the end of the day. So it's part of her job. Obviously I don't think she should be doing anything unhealthy to lose weight. But she's lost most the weight at this point and seems to want to continue working on that. Fitness was also part of Adriana's brand. 

I agree, 1. Andre's kids should not be that much of a factor (although I do think his children and her children  and andre himself play a role of why she looks and seems tired and out of it at some events) but they have 0 to do with her weight management.

I also agree, Adriana shouldn't settle for not looking up to par just because she is 41. She's just 41. Naomi campbell is in her 50s and obviously makes the right decisions to physically keep up her body so that she can continue to work, because she wants to. If Adriana wants to keep being a model and maintain her status she does have to do the part. She is not and never was a plus sized or bloated model. So people don't expect her to be one. She can be if she retired and decides to live her life as a regular person. But realistically to be the model that she is, she has to do whats expected. And while I do think at her age it takes more time to get her looks back, I don't think she should give up or settle for a look that is not her full potential

And yeah Adriana is literally an ambassador for dog pound, fitness is still her brand so its another reason it makes no sense for her to slack off on it. I still think Adriana needs some rest though clearly because she just hasn't looked like she is well facially at most events this year. But she can have more rest while also being fit and healthy. Because lets not forget sometimes Adriana finds her weight shifting from eating poorly here and there

1 minute ago, Souled-Out said:

She is not and never was a plus sized or bloated model. So people don't expect her to be one. She can be if she retired and decides to live her life as a regular person. But realistically to be the model that she is, she has to do whats expected. And while I do think at her age it takes more time to get her looks back, I don't think she should give up or settle for a look that is not her full potential

Exactly. People don't WANT her to be one. She isn't even plus sized so for the people asking for plus sized models, having her "represent them" would be laughable. 

On 4/12/2023 at 6:22 PM, lucyford said:

They have a nanny. Adriana also has a personal chef. So i dont think she is being overworked cooking and cleaning after all those kids. She has people to take care of that. Andre's mom has shown Adriana had 5 people working in her house with the kids, cooking, and cleaning. And we dont even know how invovled she is with his kids. Andre seems to have no issues leaving them to follow Adriana on her trips while she works and he is just there for no good reason. So who knows how involved he even is.. Because it seems they have also flown his mom over to take care of them for him.

I personally think its fine and probably best for Adriana that she wants to keep working out and being healthy and all that. Shes come a long way already. She was very big in Qatar in December. I dont think she was doing much prior to that. But started working on it at the start of this year and I think she practically lost most the weight now. Which is impressive considering where she was in December.

On 4/12/2023 at 6:31 PM, Souled-Out said:

 

I agree, 1. Andre's kids should not be that much of a factor (although I do think his children and her children  and andre himself play a role of why she looks and seems tired and out of it at some events) but they have 0 to do with her weight management.

 

I also agree, Adriana shouldn't settle for not looking up to par just because she is 41. She's just 41. Naomi campbell is in her 50s and obviously makes the right decisions to physically keep up her body so that she can continue to work, because she wants to. If Adriana wants to keep being a model and maintain her status she does have to do the part. She is not and never was a plus sized or bloated model. So people don't expect her to be one. She can be if she retired and decides to live her life as a regular person. But realistically to be the model that she is, she has to do whats expected. And while I do think at her age it takes more time to get her looks back, I don't think she should give up or settle for a look that is not her full potential

 

And yeah Adriana is literally an ambassador for dog pound, fitness is still her brand so its another reason it makes no sense for her to slack off on it. I still think Adriana needs some rest though clearly because she just hasn't looked like she is well facially at most events this year. But she can have more rest while also being fit and healthy. Because lets not forget sometimes Adriana finds her weight shifting from eating poorly here and there

Yes, I assume that Adriana will have help from domestic staff with the housework, after all, she is a millionaire, but even so, being the mother and stepmother of 5 children who are still very young and who depend on you, is an exhausting task, not only for having to clean or cook, there are many more things. In any case, I would also like to see Adriana thinner (especially, with a less swollen face) and I think we will see her thinner, but I understand VS's movement in the sense that Adriana, the most normal thing, is that she already doesn't look like she did in 2016, with her canonical model body and her face that looked 10 years younger. Now Adriana will be representing more mature women, many of them mothers, not plus size women because she obviously wouldn't be a realistic representation of a plus size woman because she's not a plus size woman.

Adriana can look very good, very healthy and very fit without looking like she did 6 years ago. And in the end each body is different, there are models that maintain their physical shape with less effort than others. For example, it's clear that Adriana and Candice don't have the same body type and that staying slim takes a lot more effort for Adriana than it does for Candice. For this reason, in part, it seems to me that Adriana's long career has so much merit, because she has had to put a lot of effort on her part to always stay in such good physical shape. That's why she has always had the reputation of being the VS model who worked the most in the gym, while others kept fit with lighter exercises such as yoga, pilates or ballet. It's something that has always been very noticeable in her, from the pregnancies, that she always gains a lot of weight to some times that she has gone on vacation, she has relaxed a bit with her diet and workout, and it was already noticeable that she had gained weight.

That's why I don't see as much drama about her being able to relax a little bit with all of that, considering her age, her busier family situation, and that she doesn't have to prove anything to anyone anymore. I think that the healthiest thing for her, both physically and mentally, will be that from now on she weighs 6, 7 or 8 kilos more than she did in 2016, 2017 or 2018. But if she wants to go back to looking like in those years, it's her decision and it's respectable.

Well her interview with people magazine gave alot of clarity

It seems like she sees what everyone else does in terms of her weight and how pregnancy changes her and she isn't a fan of it. It does make her insecure. And I think she should do whatever she can to make that feeling go away. And when she can rest in between and rejuvenate herself because thats part of it too. I mean its alot she still gotta do. This is not an easy road for her. And I hate even more that people give her shit accusing her of plastic surgery and all that for how different she looks with the weight when clearly thats not what it is. Nobody is saying she should aim for looking like she did 6 years ago, we know thats not how reality works. We are saying what we literally said which is being the BEST version of herself. Her post partum era is not the best she can do, she can eventually be more fit and stuff. Its just taking her sometime is all. As she said

And yeah I think at this point everyone has realized sometimes Adriana can fall of with dieting/working out especially when vacationing and stuff. People are more aware now than they was  before it, also outside of the metin she has a partner who doesn't seem to be into working out and fitness, so she has nothing to motivate her or hold her accountable besides her career…Hopefully the struggles she opened up about is used as motivation to keep being healthy and keep working on being the best version of a 41 year old she can be and not let herself settle for any less than that

Did Andre delete his company account (@miluent)?
Does anyone know if he has another account?

5 hours ago, jamiya said:

Did Andre delete his company account (@miluent)?
Does anyone know if he has another account?

To my knowledge he deleted it a few weeks ago, and he hasn't anything else that I know of, besides an old inactive facebook account.

4 hours ago, nhlovesadri said:

To my knowledge he deleted it a few weeks ago, and he hasn't anything else that I know of, besides an old inactive facebook account.

I got it! Thank you for your reply.

Hopefully he is taking a break from social media to take care and focus on his own children and career for once, instead of following Adriana around for her jobs and acting like he is the prize/trophy in the relationship when Adriana is doing red carpets. Like honestly, he seems to not do much as the "man" of the house and its terribly off putting. Especially knowing Adriana recently admitted she was tired

I was right about adriana looking tired at these recent event, in one of those interviews at the VS event last week she mentioned she barely has gotten any sleep. Andre better be pulling his weight because from the outside looking in, it looks like alot falls on Adriana and he just reaps the benefits of being her partner. There are 5 kids and Adriana seems to be involved with them ALL. I hope right now inbetween these workouts she is finding rest, because she basically admitted she was dealing with alot lately that caused her to lack sleep.

I do not wish another heartbreak/break-up on Adriana, so I am just hoping Andre step things up. Because not only does his constant presence wherever Adriana goes annoy fans like he is some prize but hearing Adriana admit she is tired, she looks tired, we see her with the kids all the time when she isn't working and we can't say any of the same about him is annoying as hell. So hopefully he is taking a break from social media and focusing on actually being productive and giving as much energy to his career and fatherhood, as Adriana clearly is to her career and motherhood.

I love what she said here. She seems to be in good spirit and determined. I like her attitude towards this journey and determination

💯 when I saw her stories (via KirkMyers fitness) I felt proud and inspired by her. You can tell she is going in on her fitness again. I noticed the stories had VS tagged…you all think she plans to participate in the fashion show and that’s the reason for tagging them in her workouts?

22 minutes ago, Jaytrainne2884 said:

💯 when I saw her stories (via KirkMyers fitness) I felt proud and inspired by her. You can tell she is going in on her fitness again. I noticed the stories had VS tagged…you all think she plans to participate in the fashion show and that’s the reason for tagging them in her workouts?

It was kirk who tagged them. But she made it clear in an interview that she will further work with VS this year. So i would expect that mean the new show they keep talking about or/and a VS lingerie campaign.