Intersexual Relations
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Laughing causes a physical reaction in the brain which in turn relieves stress, eases tension, and anger.
I think the most important thing is that laughter puts women at ease which is co-constructing something that’s amusing and light hearted with each other.”
Thanks for your responses guys. I'm interested in hearing other people's views as well.
I've asked many women about what type of humor is sexy and they have largely told me that it's 'witty banter". Where I have not gotten a positive is "what exactly"? They never can tell me specifics. I believe that it's just an exchange of positive emotions, but mixed with tension and masculine/fatherly/brotherly friendliness and liking. It also involves frequent light hearted put-downs.
To clarify, what I was pointing at is that I believe that there is humor that is generally funny (everybody likes humor and even attempts at it ) but there is a certain "type" of humor that makes a man more sexy to a woman. It's the masculine banter, not storytelling or wannbee attempts at stand-up. The women's laughter is linked to how sexy she is finding the man and with only marginal interest in the actual substance. The longer this goes on, the sexier and sexier the man becomes.
I've known guys that are good at it and have witnessed girls getting picked up by men employing this type of interaction rather skillfully. eg. She's red in the face, hunched over from laughter, and he's pulling her over to a cab with his arm around her... What they do is just banter with the girl and constantly get her laughing until she is moved towards a near-euphoric state. IF you actually spend hours hearing what's going on, it's entirely juvenile back and forth. The Banter also has the effect of moving her into a childish state (it knocks off her thinking brain, and leaves mainly the animal)
Russell Brand is a practitioner of this type of charm. (youtube him). A British friend of mine uses the same charm, as do other friends that have started doing this since college.
Are you guys on the same page with that? Or you have very different experiences?
2 hours ago, 17 Moments of Spring said:
humor is pretty common "expectation" from females, "a guy who can make me laugh". females are "consumers" of humor in this sense, and expect males to "produce" it. ( see the number of male vs. female humorists / comedians)
if a guy make a girl laugh, it means the girl feels well / happy being with that guy.
it's a filtering factor too - if the guy's kind of humor is to their taste, that means the guy is on the same wavelength as them, exhibits similar personality / mental style, it's a match.
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Often what the guy says isn't even funny or clever- She is just laughing because she is attracted to him.
Referring to Miller, I also have his book on Consumer Behavior (Spent), which is pretty ruthless as well!
It's interesting how women are reputably much less funny than men- I wonder why that is the case.
1 hour ago, Stromboli1 said:Laughing causes a physical reaction in the brain which in turn relieves stress, eases tension, and anger.
I think the most important thing is that laughter puts women at ease which is co-constructing something that’s amusing and light hearted with each other.”
It releases Oxytocin, which is a happy chemical, just like is released during sex.
Post-menopausal effect on the female personality?
I suspect that after the hill is traversed, it removes a lot of the survival and reproduction emotional drives from their personality. It makes the woman a lot less emotional and a lot more passive in many ways. In a way she's free from her bondage- her cerebral cortex takes over and she's no longer a reproduction machine.
My own mother: (more passive, much less emotional, less concerned (but still concerned) and integrated in groupthink and worrying about how her social peers would judge her, more interested in her hobbies)
Infertile Old Men also become much more passive and a lot less emotional/sexual/angry.
-It is a urban myth that men think about sex more than woman; in fact it is the opposite and it is even woven more deeply in the fiber of the female being as governor of her thoughts and actions.
-The Genre of the 'Romance novel' (most recently, the 50 shades of Grey etc.) is basically porn for woman, and relates to the different way that they experience sexuality. (sensuality/developing story instead of visual)
When you say "shit tests", I think the official term is "congruence testing".
It's hard to define what it is but everyone has experienced them. I think it's when the woman considers someone as an asset (friend, lover) and then her instincts kick in & she starts testing the person for value. This comes naturally for her (like when someone is hungry they start talking & thinking about food), while for a man he has to deliberately use his thinking brain.
It's often confusing in identifying what is a test or what is something conversational. A hallmark is whenever she asks you a seemingly random question out of the blue- such as an opinion of something or a challenge.
Women are also more likely to insert subtext/hidden meaning in their communication than men. This is not necessarily a test but a way to communicate something in a safe way. I think they are naturally loathe to engage in open confrontation if they can.
I worked for a female boss who was able to subtly move employees in the direction she wanted by using subtle communication. She was very socially saavy. She had the talent of convincing people to do things but do it in a way that they really bought into it and thought that it was their own idea.
But it was really her actions- her slow mental penetration, day by day.
I suspect that this is related to maternal instincts as well.
22 hours ago, Cult Icon said:When you say "shit tests", I think the official term is "congruence testing".
It's hard to define what it is but everyone has experienced them. I think it's when the woman considers someone as an asset (friend, lover) and then her instincts kick in & she starts testing the person for value. This comes naturally for her (like when someone is hungry they start talking & thinking about food), while for a man he has to deliberately use his thinking brain.
It's often confusing in identifying what is a test or what is something conversational. A hallmark is whenever she asks you a seemingly random question out of the blue- such as an opinion of something or a challenge.
Women are also more likely to insert subtext/hidden meaning in their communication than men.
^ at their best, they are destructive games to achieve dominance
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/relationship-game-week-a-readers-journey/
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Eg. I've been the subject of a sudden hissy fit in the boardroom with a female colleague- she thought that I was (in the near term) not being fully present when she was speaking. She tested me by asking me a specific question pertaining to what she was discussing.
I believe that this was a test rather than something conversational. It was too instinctual. There was no build-up of anger/stress that is typical with outbursts. I was taken back by it as I only see this type of hissy fit in relationship. It was strange to experience.
Granted we are not an item but we relied on each other so there was a bond. It's interesting how women naturally test. It's actually a useful trait for the tester.
The only one who noticed my scattered attention was the other woman in the room.
^ a longer and broader essay:
https://illimitablemen.com/2014/12/14/the-shit-test-encyclopedia/
for more generalization, from the selected bibliography at the end:
11 hours ago, 17 Moments of Spring said:
TBH I don't like the tone of either of the websites you posted. I'm more about seeking the win-win and the 1 + 1 = 3.. not the 'taking/beating'.
I have awareness of the "Red Pill" stuff (I read Rational Male earlier this year). While they are revealing a lot of truths, I think they are way too much like the feminists since there is this undercurrent of victim energy, hate, and getting the upper hand. Men and women should learn to understand their differences and work together. Somehow the harsh truths need to be balanced with practical needs. But I definitely think that seeking relationship knowledge is life-saving for both men and women & in general people have been badly served. And generally, men are much dumber and have weaker instincts than women in this area.
A great tip I got recently was taking a journal about the woman's menstrual cycle. (taking notes about her attitudes, feelings, state, etc.). Reviewing this can prepare one for the emotional instability and help manage it effectively. This should minimize conflict until knowledge of the woman's cycle becomes second-nature.
Also, the 90-day activity cycle- Taking a journal about what worked when you first became an item, and using that initial experience as a model for the rest of your time together. So as the relationship progresses, you modify and improve your cycle with the vicissitudes of life, while retaining the core elements that made the bonding work in the first place.
5 hours ago, Cult Icon said:
TBH I don't like the tone of either of the websites you posted. I'm more about seeking the win-win and the 1 + 1 = 3.. not the 'taking/beating'.
I have awareness of the "Red Pill" stuff (I read Rational Male earlier this year). While they are revealing a lot of truths, I think they are way too much like the feminists since there is this undercurrent of victim energy, hate, and getting the upper hand.
these undercurrents and the tone of the sites are counter-effects against the all-devouring feminism (a branch of neo-marxism), their misandry and propaganda-fabrications ("rape culture", "wage gap"). force and counter-force.
2 hours ago, 17 Moments of Spring said:
these undercurrents and the tone of the sites are counter-effects against the all-devouring feminism (a branch of neo-marxism), their misandry and propaganda-fabrications ("rape culture", "wage gap"). force and counter-force.
I get the impression that the Red pill sites are political. Being in the US, I never heard of RP until after Trump got elected!
This reminds of the 'truths'. I think a lot of young men start figuring out bits and pieces of this in high school and college. In High school, I was with the "smart jocks" cliche my house was where everybody would meet. That's when I started learning about this stuff about female/male relations.
I had a discussion and I think it's appropriate to share it with the Lady posters that have lurked on this thread and my other posts. I am aware of at least 2 posters that don't like this kind of content. I apologize for any hurt feelings.
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No, I am not a women-hater but rather a hater of not winning in office /social politics, being manipulated by women or taken advantage of in friendship and relationships. What negative energy you are reading from my posts is largely about trying to develop the know-how to prevent forest fires and have better situational awareness.
The rest of it is positive energy- I want to gain more skills to sustain a lifelong relationship.
The evolutionary psychology/biology is by PC standards, women demeaning in its conclusions. But it's the science. I'm interested in understanding how things actually work- not whether or not they offend feminists. I enjoyed making those posts but it's clear that it doesn't make some women comfortable.
I welcome criticism to the things that I say as it would help me to understand it better.
23 hours ago, Cult Icon said:
I get the impression that the Red pill sites are political.
an example
I am not interesting in bisexual or lesbain experiences.
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would you like to share some personal experiences about the tests?
On 10/15/2017 at 1:11 PM, Tania82 said:I am not interesting in bisexual or lesbain experiences.
why not?
27 minutes ago, Cult Icon said:^
would you like to share some personal experiences about the tests?
i talk about personal stuff "face-to-face".
Just now, 17 Moments of Spring said:
i talk about personal stuff "face-to-face".
It would be interesting to hear of some more examples