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i dont think she has more muscle than the average man, and im not even close to being a gym rat - she's got the typical muscle for someone who is very active ,that's about it - she's not gonna be doing any power lifting, google "fitness models" if you wanna see what I consider "too muscly"
like i said, you guys are too used to dainty skinny fashion models who dont work out at all

dude she has more muscle then me and im an active person...i go to the gym, i play basketball, i lift weights, i run.

and do you get oiled up and pose for photos in which theyre stressing contrast? take a look at her Perfect 10 stuff, she's not the musclebound machine u make her out to be, not even close

How do you guys actually feel about Jessica Van Der Steen? Does she get lumped in with the muscle crowd? I always found her to have a very nice, feminine body.

she's a stick with boobs, not much of a face either (JVDS)
How do you guys actually feel about Jessica Van Der Steen? Does she get lumped in with the muscle crowd? I always found her to have a very nice, feminine body.
I like her.
tdpatriots, your top five changes weekly. Do you really think alizee is hotter than say, josie maran? Granted alizee has an otherworldly butt, I don't think that would give her a number five spot. I have concluded that your list does not stem from personal tastes, but from spite for fans of runway models.

fremont - this is like my 3rd board, i dont make the list to spite you guys. im just get a kick out of being a devil's advocate here, because of how outwardly pro fashion models it is (not that I'm anti fashion models
). I've got 2,107 pics of Josie for instance, I collect all kinds I like from the trashy (Alley Baggett), to fashion models (Josie), to athletic models (Marisa), to actresses (you get the idea)
As far as the list goes, it's based on a certain age group only - meaning josie is hotter than alizee (imho), but her age disqualifies her from my list, if i included everyone, josie would pretty much be #1. Plus, my Top 5 changes weekly because it changes based on what I like, I dont try to fit what I like around my list (which I know some people do).
Ok I see, . That clarifies things more, but your still my favorite person to give a hard time to.
I had no idea she's was an athlete, either way, the people who put this year's mag together need to be "Voted off the Island"
Olympic Swimmer ![]()

And Jennie Finch pitches (very very well) for USA Softball.
I avoided this thread until I received my issue. All I have to say is, you guys are harsh. How is last years issue better than this one??? In my humble opinion, it was at least equal to it. Ok...I have to admit, the cover was pretty bad. I hate when magazines and catalogs (VS?) photoshop the original color or design of a bikini...ugh...I can spot it from a mile away. Why the heck do they do that??? It just looks plain bad. Oh, and what about the trading cards? What am I in, second grade? Did anyone at least have a favorite picture???

My favorite:

i was satisfied with the issue . . . i would have been disappointed without the gorgeous jessica van der steen and petra nemcova . . .
i thought that it was alright but they could have done way more with the Ana BB shoots and was annoyed that they had lots of 'deadwood models' and pointless athletes in the mag.
they need to bring back Josie Maran or else get some of the other VS models to do it next year 'cos i dunno if it were worth the £5 (about $9) i spent for it this year . . .