Last movie you saw... Pinned

Baby Driver - The concept and plot of the movie itself were enjoyable, and the action sequences and soundtrack were amazing. However, none of the character motivations made any sense to me.  Lily James' character was literally just an accessory and had zero purpose, and Eiza () was a barely there typecast.  

^^ Yeah, the movie doesn't pass the Bechdel test, that's true (and that's a low bar).

Although I enjoy movies with strong and independent female characters, I have given up expecting the studios to make an effort to create many movies like that. I realized a while back that I would enjoy very few movies if I expected that from movies every time I watched one.

That being said, the female characters were weak. Can you imagine how cool it would have been if Baby was a woman? That could have been done, and if done well, the movie would likely have been even better.

Yesterday I saw the last version, but I prefer the oldest: "Carrie", by Stephen King

8 hours ago, jkjk said:

^^ Yeah, the movie doesn't pass the Bechdel test, that's true (and that's a low bar).

 

Although I enjoy movies with strong and independent female characters, I have given up expecting the studios to make an effort to create many movies like that. I realized a while back that I would enjoy very few movies if I expected that from movies every time I watched one.

 

That being said, the female characters were weak. Can you imagine how cool it would have been if Baby was a woman? That could have been done, and if done well, the movie would likely have been even better.

Maybe it's because I'm a woman but I don't find it unreasonable to expect and want for movies to simply write women like human beings.  However, I think all of the characters in that movie were poorly written, not just specifically the women. They just stood out to me because they were the weakest.  

10 minutes ago, toodarnhot said:

Maybe it's because I'm a woman but I don't find it unreasonable to expect and want for movies to simply write women like human beings.  However, I think all of the characters in that movie were poorly written, not just specifically the women. They just stood out to me because they were the weakest.  

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that at all, it's what I would like to happen.

Maybe the fact that I don't expect it says more about me. I generally assume the worst in these situations, so I assume the boy's club of the movie industry will continue to behave as they have in the past.

As a side note, Edgar Wright is not known for writing complex female characters. Off the top of my head, the closest he has gotten is maybe Scott Pilgrim vs The World? And we are not talking about a complex character really.

This conversation reminded me of something I noticed recently. I sometimes watch panels where they have an all actor group or an all actress group and I notice the difference in topics.

Male panel topics might be:1) How great was it to play this great part?  2) How did you chose this part? 3) What was is like working on this project?

Female panel topics might be: 1) How many times have you been sexually harassed in casting or during filming? 2) How have you been treated poorly on set because you are a woman? 3) How hard is it to find a project with a good character to work with? 4) Wasn't it amazing you had the rare opportunity to work on a script written by a woman or with a female director?

It's two fairly different worlds they work in, even when they are on the same set. Unfortunately.

Ghost in the shell (1995)

classic cyberpunk

(500) Days of Summer (2009)

When a movie has the potential, but it's just not there, and you feel cringe for it.

2/3 of the design is OK, 2/3 of the implementation is wrong.

Transformers : Last Knight

Brainwashing but I Liked it

The House : surprisingly disappointing

Wonder Woman.

King Arthur: The Legend of the Sword.

The Boss Baby.

The Circle.

Twin Peaks - Fire walk with me (1992)

Raising Cain (1992)

Sin City

RoboCop

The Princess Bride

Four Rooms

Sometimes beauty can be a hindrance for an actress? Watched parts of a movie titled Bringing Up Bobby (2012) while doing the dishes. Milla Jovovich plays a con-artist and a mother who ends up in prison and struggles to get her life in order so that she could care for her son again. She even ends up sleeping in a homeless shelter. A woman that beautiful can’t have better options? She was clearly charming enough to con people so one would think that she’d be able to get a rich man instead of hanging out with a loser bum who wasn’t even her real boyfriend. Ok, maybe she wanted to make it on her own but surely someone as beautiful as her could have opportunities for a normal life even with a criminal record.

14 minutes ago, Sanni said:

Sometimes beauty can be a hindrance for an actress?

I remember Halle Berry talking about this in an interview. Earlier in her career, she went out for a role as a junkie, and they said she was too pretty for the role.  

Ed Wood (1994)

Breakfast of Champions (1999)

Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain (2001)

Imo it's understandable that some actresses are considered too pretty for some roles. Few junkie is like Gia (tho there were exceptions: Meg as an alcoholic, or Charlize as the Monster).

K-9 (1989)

A good example is Keira Knightly in domino:  made no sense, physically

Prelude to a kiss (1992)

War for the Planet of the Apes - good movie and beautifully shot