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12 minutes ago, Prettyphile said:@Stormbringer - I might be a Utah Mom lol
You still have a full month of summer though
15 minutes ago, Jade Bahr said:I don't know I think most of us just try to do their best every day. It's sometimes hard to see the truth to the wall of lies especially in the medias. I mean even back in school it depends on the teacher if we really learned something or not and how we learned something or not or if we left the building with lots of bullshit in our childishly suggestible heads. To become an intelligent, independent individual depends on so many things, and I don't think we live in a good era to expect any miracles here.
I had a really good history teacher. Then, I went to public libraries and read tons of history books (and physics
).
But IMHO the best way to check a viewpoint is to hear what the other side has to say.
23 minutes ago, Jade Bahr said:I don't think we live in a good era to expect any miracles here.
There is always hope.
“Luminous beings, are we. Not this crude matter.”

1 hour ago, Stormbringer said:
You still have a full month of summer though
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ITS BASICALLY FALL

2 minutes ago, Prettyphile said:ITS BASICALLY FALL
Is it though?

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16 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:
My grandpa was a child during war. He suffered under the nazis (like his whole family) but he never fight one nor was he able to protect his mom and sisters against "the even more cruel russian soldiers". His words. Not mine.

18 hours ago, Prettyphile said:I've never been a huge fan of country, doesn't go with the aesthetics after all, I gotta say this song is fire🔥 As a White Californian spooky goth gal who's relocated to the Dirty South I felt EVERY word and agree. Stay strapped fam.
@phenobarbie @Enrico_sw @COP11 @Stromboli1
It's a fun song.
On 8/23/2023 at 12:12 PM, Jade Bahr said:"
My grandpa was a child during war. He suffered under the nazis (like his whole family) but he never fight one nor was he able to protect his mom and sisters against "the even more cruel russian soldiers". His words. Not mine.
Was he from Poland?
Yes, the Russians are brutal and ruthless. The Nazi–Soviet Pact is a big factor that allowed the war to start, because Hitler knew how dangerous the Russians can be (the country is hard to invade and Russian leaders never cared about their human losses). He thought he would buy time before invading them. In the end, Operation Barbarossa was too precipitated anyway (Hitler's generals were better than him, he should've listened to them).
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Anyway, your grandpa's instincts was to protect his sisters and mother (even if apparently he couldn't). I won't discuss if it's natured or nurtured, but, in any case, society knew that risking one's life to protect others has great value.
^ One could argue that maybe some women wanted to risk their lives and go to war. Why not, but I've never heard any woman say that.
If you hear women today (in the time of feminism and "ekwality"), they have contempt for a man that can't be a protector (and provider). None of them want to be the protector (some are big providers, but they don't share it with their man). And men still think it's their prerogative (and get contempt for that, even if it's a demand from their counterparts).
So, the question is this: is this new woke society a balanced deal between men and women? I don't think so.
(BTW, I'm not morally judging anyone, just stating what I see and understand from it)

16 hours ago, Enrico_sw said:
Was he from Poland?
East Prussia. Back then it belonged to the "german empire" after the 2nd world war it was splitted between Poland and Sowjetunion. I think it's now called Kaliningrad and is mostly part of Russia.

16 hours ago, Stromboli1 said:The Maga King memes are gonna be awesome!
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I think he did that face on purpose lol.

On 8/22/2023 at 2:32 PM, Enrico_sw said:
I think political ideologies (feminism, political right/left, MAGA, CCP, etc) are mostly propaganda grifts with only grains of truth. They are ideological weapons.
Politics is a form of warfare and a shooting war happens when politics don't give you want groups want. Feminists are gaining more for their side, it's just the way things are today. They are also a form of population control.
Overall the whole industrious to decadent cycle is Roman history and history of the rise & fall of civilizations in a nutshell.
Two thousand years ago Cicero and Seneca, Cato etc. were talking about the same problems about corruption and decadence among the Roman elite as well as the declining standards of responsibility. Same thing in Feudal Japan, where the Sengoku era was seen as superior to the latter eras.
In China they talk about the 100 years of 'shame' and the 'communism with Chinese characteristics' as saving the nation.
And in the US the 'Greatest generation' is seen as the best (1930s-1950s).
Currently, North America & Europe are globally declining/stagnating societies with terrible political & military leadership and corrupt economies.
They are well past the point of help. If they were to be saved it should have been done at the latest in the 1980s. The signs of decline were already evident in the 1970s US.
Ultimately what is good for the nation & society as a whole is not necessarily good for the individual who craves fast money, security, pleasures & freedom. That's how decadence happens. I think it's just the natural order of things.

The screenplay for "Gladiator" is quite brilliant. The three forces of Stoicism, hard work/competence, & Nationalism (Maximus the farmer-General like Cato) vs. Decadence, Emotional & Selfish, and Bread & Circuses Fraud (Emperor) are a core feature.
In the writings of Seneca (and Cicero IIRC) they write extensively about the increasing feminization of men among Roman elite, decadence and neglect of duties (both civil & military) due to comfort. I think Chinese history has the same issues as the Roman.
Look at the Imperial Japanese, the Germans, & Americans of the late 19th century to the mid- 20th century compared to how feminine they are today for instance..
The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism - Wikipedia
I recall Max Weber and Sloan/Drucker also have insightful observations (of their times) on how American men changed as they transformed from independent people into corporate/bureaucratic drones. In some aspects of behavior they started becoming more feminine 100 years ago.

Summer can eat a dick .
Summer people can fuck off .
I don't trust Summer people .
Hurricane inbound, 2 days of temps on the cooler end, a nice bit of relief (its still fucking MOIST though).... and then the heat comes back with a fucking vengeance. Go the fuck away already. Ain't nobody want your fucking abuse to continue unless you live in a cooler climate year round and then fuck you for having the dream.



Facts, and while my house already looks like Halloween. I'm Halloweening in moar.