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On 5/28/2024 at 5:43 AM, Jade Bahr said:Great list.
I personally find Austin and Timmy's faces annoying to look at, and that's partly why I haven't watched Dune or finished Masters of the Air. The Jacob guy is rocking the K-pop (effeminate/androgynous aesthetic).
3 of Male stars in this list are pretty effeminate.

13 hours ago, Lilja K said:@Jade Bahr Well, I finally watched Furiosa. It's a little weaker than Fury Road, but it's still great.
Another weakness of the film is that it doesn't have such visual beauty. At least for me. Not that I'm complaining about Furiosa's visual, but it wasn't as breathtaking as in Fury Road. Even a few years later, watching on TV screen, I was still mesmerized by the cinematography of Fury Road.
Anya did an excellent job with her eye acting. I also think she did a great job playing the role of a young Furiosa and comparing her to Charlize, who played a mature Furiosa, is not quite right.
Overall (I haven't gotten around to finishing Furiosa yet- I've been revisiting Fury Road & the world building to prep for my viewing) from what I can see Furiosa is not made with the same attention to detail and difficulty level as Fury Road.
There are various documentaries out about the Production of Fury Road- it was very difficult to make and Miller was planning it (Furiosa & Fury Road) since the early 2000s. In a way it is a masterpiece that is rarely made, as it took so much effort. They also custom built a fleet of cars for the film.
It kind of reminds me of the production process of first 3 Lord of the Rings and Apocalypse Now- These films are so hard to make and require so many years of effort so the final result is much different from the typical hollywood hack-job.
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23 hours ago, Cult Icon said:In a way it is a masterpiece that is rarely made, as it took so much effort. They also custom built a fleet of cars for the film.
It kind of reminds me of the production process of first 3 Lord of the Rings and Apocalypse Now- These films are so hard to make and require so many years of effort so the final result is much different from the typical hollywood hack-job.
I agree. But it also seems to me that since VFX have replaced (mostly) practical effects, blockbusters have started to look less spectacular. That's why I have a mad respect for Christopher Nolan, he uses minimum of VFX and no CGI.

On 6/1/2024 at 11:04 PM, Cult Icon said:3 of Male stars in this list are pretty effeminate.
It's the type who's popular right now I think. Even though the 90s and 00s had some pretty boys too like
Leo DiCaprio (sry him again 😅),
Hayden Christensen,
Josh Hartnett,
Paul Walker,
Ryan Phillippe,
James Franco,
Heath Ledger
Jude Law was pretty androgynous too.
And Johnny Depp of course.
(can't believe 2 of them are already dead 🤯).
On 6/1/2024 at 11:04 PM, Cult Icon said:I personally find Austin and Timmy's faces annoying to look at, and that's partly why I haven't watched Dune or finished Masters of the Air. The Jacob guy is rocking the K-pop (effeminate/androgynous aesthetic).
I'm not really a Chalamet fan (even though I think he can act) but I think Austin Butler is ridiclious hot. He also was a force of nature in ELVIS

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On 6/3/2024 at 10:58 AM, Jade Bahr said:It's the type who's popular right now I think. Even though the 90s and 00s had some pretty boys too like
Leo DiCaprio (sry him again 😅),
Hayden Christensen,
Josh Hartnett,
Paul Walker,
Ryan Phillippe,
James Franco,
Heath Ledger
Jude Law was pretty androgynous too.
And Johnny Depp of course.
(can't believe 2 of them are already dead 🤯).
I'm not really a Chalamet fan (even though I think he can act) but I think Austin Butler is ridiclious hot. He also was a force of nature in ELVIS
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I heard he was good in Elvis. didn't see it yet.
Of the 00s stars you posted to me most of them aren't effeminate to me except Ryan & Leo when they were young. It seems like Gen Z has taken it to the next level.
Overall it appears that hollywood male stars are getting more and more effeminate since the 1960s. I think the stars popular in the 00s/1990s were very different than those in say the 1980s and earlier. I think the global love for K-pop is telling.
This was one of the most popular images in the 20th century (in the US): The Marboro Man. It didn't make it into the 21st.


1 hour ago, Cult Icon said:Of the 00s stars you posted to me most of them aren't effeminate to me except Ryan & Leo when they were young. It seems like Gen Z has taken it to the next level.
To me they are all the same type straight from the Hollywood "the young and beautiful model" cataloge: pretty faces, tall, full hair, plump lips, bright smile, white teeths, dreamy eyes, long lashes, strong jawline, flawless skin, body lanky and more or less hairless.
I mean

11 hours ago, Jade Bahr said:To me they are all the same type straight from the Hollywood "the young and beautiful model" cataloge: pretty faces, tall, full hair, plump lips, bright smile, white teeths, dreamy eyes, long lashes, strong jawline, flawless skin, body lanky and more or less hairless.
Jude Law is a great actor- but never found him effeminate in The Talented Mr. Ripley. The immediate impression he gives in that movie and others at the time was a high born, arrogant rich guy with a trust fund and a big social life.
A good litmas test for me is if the guy's facial features are delicate enough that they could get away with looking like a pretty woman in drag..lol Austin is one of those people. Timmy looks like one of those gay boy-toys that Roman officials would bring to bathhouses.. (or Catholic Priests)
Jacob in his get-up looks flamboyantly gay like JoJo Bizarre Adventure:
K-pop:

7 hours ago, Cult Icon said:
Jude Law is a great actor- but never found him effeminate in The Talented Mr. Ripley. The immediate impression he gives in that movie and others at the time was a high born, arrogant rich guy with a trust fund and a big social life.
A good litmas test for me is if the guy's facial features are delicate enough that they could get away with looking like a pretty woman in drag..lol
I guess you never watched OSCAR WILDE with him? I'm pretty confident he could pull off a drag back then easily. Maybe his big hands would give his true sex away lol
He's so pretty in this movie
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On 6/6/2024 at 10:06 AM, Jade Bahr said:I agree those guys are next level feminine. BUT... aren't most asian people rather feminine? They mostly have such delicate facial features and zero facial and body hair.
No, real Asian men are not really feminine outside of lack of body hair. Although many are boy-like but most are not. overall they have flat features and are not good looking people on average. (unfortunately- slant eyes and a busted nose, and really fat cheekbones)
These K-pop stars & actors are not representative of how they really look. They do skin bleaching, plastic surgery etc.
White skin is fetishized in East Asia, it's like being blonde & blue eyed in the US.


On 6/6/2024 at 9:41 AM, Jade Bahr said:
That's ok it gives some context as to what you're talking about. No, I'm never seen that. I saw mainly his later films..
I observed that Henry Cavill & Chris Hemsworth have a huge man-crush fanbase on the internet- I think it's mainly because straight men want to look like them/be them.

2 hours ago, AnatasiaSteele82 said:What couple do you prefer?
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I didn't see any of these movies, but the ones directed by Tim Burton seem very interesting, I definitely have to watch them
I prefer Michael Keaton and Kim Basinger, not just because they look really nice together, but Kim's play seems to me the most organic and natural.