Problems and Suggestions for BZ - Post Here Pinned

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Love a good Mean Girls reference

4 hours ago, jj3 said:

 

Ah well, it's good again

 

Thank you between for the new buttun to review a post, it's a great idea !

Though, the notifiations who come with it are a bit annoying, do you know which option we have to turn off ?

I assume the reputation one, does it not let you toggle it off?

3 hours ago, toodarnhot said:

 

54 minutes ago, maddog107 said:

 

I assume the reputation one, does it not let you toggle it off?

It is now, thanks once again !

People should see which members have voted on a post. I can already see that “confused” will be used to discredit someone’s post.

1 hour ago, Sanni said:

People should see which members have voted on a post. I can already see that “confused” will be used to discredit someone’s post.

We are discussing that internally, I prefer the anonymous as less feelings get hurt. Also regarding the confused, we can remove any emoji that we dont like. I think as long as they are mostly positive ones (or neutral) hopefully no one will get upset. 

But I guess we shall see. 

^  I have used forums where liking and reputation went smoothly and other forums where things were awkward (or worse). It really depends on the members and how they use it and deal with it.

I have never really worried about it on previous forums, but it's hard to predict what will happen with everyone.

How does the reputation system work?

Just now, Sanni said:

How does the reputation system work?

My guess is that it probably works like "likes with emotions" on Facebook.

Every emotion even the angry face (FB), sad face (BZ) still counts as a like...?

3 minutes ago, Charlie's Alter Ego said:

My guess is that it probably works like "likes with emotions" on Facebook.

Every emotion even the angry face (FB), sad face (BZ) still counts as a like...?

Thanks! I think maybe the more negative ones don’t count because I know at least one member got more “confused” reactions than what their reputation count is.

Just now, Sanni said:

Thanks! I think maybe the more negative ones don’t count because I know at least one member got more “confused” reactions than what their reputation count is.

hmm I haven't seen any confused or sad votes so far. But I also wouldn't see sad/confused as a negative emotions towards the poster, I rather see it for example in bad news (model xyz announced to leave VS) -> my personal emotion would than be sad but as I said, not to discredit the poster rather than being sad about these news imo.

2 minutes ago, Charlie's Alter Ego said:

hmm I haven't seen any confused or sad votes so far. But I also wouldn't see sad/confused as a negative emotions towards the poster, I rather see it for example in bad news (model xyz announced to leave VS) -> my personal emotion would than be sad but as I said, not to discredit the poster rather than being sad about these news imo.

Check the Official VS thread It's being used in a shady way. Especially since the emoticon shows one eye that bugs out.

2 hours ago, Sanni said:

Check the Official VS thread It's being used in a shady way. Especially since the emoticon shows one eye that bugs out.

I see...

one user got plenty "confused" 10 to be exact and 3 "likes". the users reputation is 3 tho, which means there is no negative count or subtraction happening.

So I wouldn't worry too much your count can only go up but not down, well not exactly...*

I see two options: Vote and Emotion.

Vote being: Trophy +1 ; Like +1 ; No Vote At All +/-0     -->     appreciation/neutral

Emotion being: Haha ; Confused ; Sad     -->     only neutral

the only negative vote I know so far is the one on YouTube "thumbs down"

I personally still can't see any negativity in that option imo. It would concern me more if I never get any reaction at all, I mean getting reactions, appreciation or emotions only shows that the user is obviously an active member of the community. On the other hand someone without any reaction is probably not as active or maybe just leeching/lurking.

*...The only thing I would worry about is the fact that you can revoke your Vote (I don't know if there is a time window set or not) which means that theoretically user A gave user B many Likes/Thanks and after a certain time they have a dispute and user A revokes every Likes/Thanks he/she has given user B, which causes user B in a declining community reputation.

On 1/10/2018 at 3:29 AM, Sanni said:

People should see which members have voted on a post. I can already see that “confused” will be used to discredit someone’s post.

Regarding to your request to be able to see who has voted and what, I want to show you two examples why I think that being able to vote anonymous is actually a good thing. (prevents unnecessary drama, provides more honest opinions)

You probably know the "polls" on Twitter and Instagram?

1.)

- On Twitter: I can vote anonymously and there for give an honest answer/vote without having to fear the OP of the poll will "punish" me react negative exclusively to me...

- On Instagram: Voters are not anonymous, the OP of the poll can see who who voted for what.

I personally encountered users that were so dissatisfied with the result of the poll that they literally blocked everyone who voted "no"...

Another user went so far as publicly expose the persons who voted "no" and called their followers to report those voters...

So knowing that a user knows what I voted for, kind of deters me to always give an honest answer.

i.e I am following someone I really like, that person recently dyed their hair black and now wants to know if their followers like their new hair.

If I would be honest and vote that I dislike the new hair, the user would then see it and might "punish" me etc. To keep the peace or not to bring myself into disrepute with that person, I would then rather lie and give a false answer/vote.

2.)

- In North Korea, people can vote yes or no to their leader. Voting results are 100% yes because the election is not anonymous.

The community reputation is still in its infancy, we'll have to wait and see how it goes.

I would rather not know who dislikes me or my content.

"ignorance is bliss"

sorry for the long text...

I was hoping that a voting system would be a short-hand way of saying “thanks” to someone. (Think of upvoting on Disqus) Now you still have to write a reply to show that you’ve acknowledged their post.

6 minutes ago, Sanni said:

I was hoping that a voting system would be a short-hand way of saying “thanks” to someone. (Think of upvoting on Disqus) Now you still have to write a reply to show that you’ve acknowledged their post.

doesn't the thanks/like option do exactly that? acknowledge a post.

I don't know why there is a "thanks" and a "like", for me it's the same thing tbh.

ah you want to see who thanked you?

1 minute ago, Charlie's Alter Ego said:

 

doesn't the thanks/like option do exactly that? acknowledge a post.

I don't know why there is a "thanks" and a "like", for me it's the same thing tbh.

But the recepient won’t know you’ve personally thanked them. It could be anybody.

14 minutes ago, Sanni said:

But the recepient won’t know you’ve personally thanked them. It could be anybody.

ah I see, now I know what you mean.

Usually in other forums when people thank a user for their post the thanking peoples user names are displayed below the post where the signature is.

i.e. the following user thanked "user-XYZ"

BobRoss83748, SamsungO2 etc

5 hours ago, Charlie's Alter Ego said:

 

ah I see, now I know what you mean.

Usually in other forums when people thank a user for their post the thanking peoples user names are displayed below the post where the signature is.

 

i.e. the following user thanked "user-XYZ"

BobRoss83748, SamsungO2 etc

 

We can do that, we are still debating if we should. And currently there are +1s and 0s only. No negatives.

^ I don't have any thoughts on whether you should do that or not, but clearly, people who want their thanking known have ways of doing so. (and I assume are doing it already)