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14 minutes ago, Michael* said:Honestly of all the films nominated for best picture I feel decidedly lukewarm towards 1917, although admittedly it's not really my preferred genre. I would still consider it the heavy favourite to win big here, though.
With the newer voting rules on Best Picture, the winning film doesn't always have to be the most loved, but maybe it's more important it's not disliked. I think that's what happened with Green Book. Maybe it wasn't the film with the most first-placed votes, but voters liked it enough that it wasn't too low on their lists.

Just now, jkjk said:With the newer voting rules on Best Picture, the winning film doesn't always have to be the most loved, but maybe it's more important it's not disliked. I think that's what happened with Green Book. Maybe it wasn't the film with the most first-placed votes, but voters liked it enough that it wasn't too low on their lists.
There's a very good chance it pans out exactly like that. The subject matter being pure Oscar fodder shouldn't hurt its chances either.
I found it vaguely reminiscent of The Revenant where at a certain point, it becomes more concerned with how the film is made than what it's actually making, and of course, you should always be watching the story first and foremost. It'll clean up in the technical categories though and deservedly so.

92nd Academy Awards
Winners List
Best Picture
Ford v Ferrari
The Irishman
JoJo Rabbit
Joker
Little Women
Marriage Story
1917
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite
Best Actor
Antonio Banderas - Pain and Glory
Leonardo DiCaprio - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Adam Driver - Marriage Story
Joaquin Phoenix - Joker
Jonathan Price - The Two Popes
Best Actress
Cynthia Erivo - Harriet
Scarlett Johansson - Marriage Story
Saoirse Ronan - Little Women
Charlize Theron - Bombshell
Renee Zellweger - Judy
Best Supporting Actor
Tom Hanks - A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
Anthony Hopkins - The Two Popes
Al Pacino - The Irishman
Joe Pesci - The Irishman
Brad Pitt - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Best Supporting Actress
Kathy Bates - Richard Jewell
Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Scarlett Johansson - Jojo Rabbit
Florence Pugh - Little Women
Margot Robbie - Bombshell
Best Director
Martin Scorsese - The Irishman
Todd Phillips - Joker
Sam Mendes - 1917
Quentin Tarentino - Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Bong Joon-ho - Parasite
Best Animated Feature
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
I Lost My Body
Klaus
Missing Link
Toy Story 4
Best Animated Short
Dcera
Hair Love
Kitbull
Memorable
Sister
Best Original Screenplay
Knives Out - Rian Johnson
Marriage Story - Noah Baumbach
1917 - Sam Mendes
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood - Quentin Tarantino
Parasite - Bong Joon-ho and Han Jin-won
Best Adapted Screenplay
The Irishman - Steven Zaillian
Jojo Rabbit - Taika Waititi
Joker - Todd Phillips
Little Women - Greta Gerwig
The Two Popes - Anthony McCarten
Best Cinematography
The Irishman - Rodrigo Prieto
Joker - Lawrence Sher
The Lighthouse - Jarin Blaschke
1917 - Roger Deakins
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood - Robert Richardson
Best Documentary - Feature
American Factory
The Cave
The Edge of Democracy
For Sama
Honeyland
Best Documentary - Short Subject
In the Absence
Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (If You're a Girl)
Life Overtakes Me
St. Louis Superman
Walk Run Cha-Cha
Best Live Action Short Film
Brotherhood
Nefta Football Club
The Neighbors' Window
Saria
A Sister
Best International Feature Film
Corpus Christi (Poland)
Honeyland (North Macedonia)
Les Misérables (France)
Pain and Glory (Spain)
Parasite (South Korea)
Best Film Editing
Ford v Ferrari – Andrew Buckland and Michael McCusker
The Irishman – Thelma Schoonmaker
Jojo Rabbit – Tom Eagles
Joker – Jeff Groth
Parasite – Yang Jin-mo
Best Sound Editing
Ford v Ferrari – Donald Sylvester
Joker – Alan Robert Murray
1917 – Oliver Tarney and Rachael Tate
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood – Wylie Stateman
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker – Matthew Wood and David Acord
Best Sound Mixing
Ad Astra – Gary Rydstrom, Tom Johnson and Mark Ulano
Ford v Ferrari – Paul Massey, David Giammarco, and Steven A. Morrow
Joker – Tom Ozanich, Dean Zupancic and Tod Maitland
1917 – Mark Taylor and Stuart Wilson
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood – Michael Minkler, Christian P. Minkler, and Mark Ulano
Best Production Design
The Irishman
Jojo Rabbit
1917
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
Parasite
Best Original Score
Joker – Hildur Guðnadóttir
Little Women – Alexandre Desplat
Marriage Story – Randy Newman
1917 – Thomas Newman
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker – John Williams
Best Original Song
"I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" from Toy Story 4 – Music and Lyrics by Randy Newman
"(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" from Rocketman – Music by Elton John; Lyrics by Bernie Taupin
"I'm Standing with You" from Breakthrough – Music and Lyrics by Diane Warren
"Into the Unknown" from Frozen II – Music and Lyrics by Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez
"Stand Up" from Harriet – Music and Lyrics by Joshuah Brian Campbell and Cynthia Erivo
Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Bombshell – Kazu Hiro, Anne Morgan, and Vivian Baker
Joker – Nicki Ledermann and Kay Georgiou
Judy – Jeremy Woodhead
Maleficent: Mistress of Evil – Paul Gooch, Arjen Tuiten, and David White
1917 – Naomi Donne, Tristan Versluis, and Rebecca Cole
Best Costume Design
The Irishman – Sandy Powell and Christopher Peterson
Jojo Rabbit – Mayes C. Rubeo
Joker – Mark Bridges
Little Women – Jacqueline Durran
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood – Arianne Phillips
Best Visual Effects
Avengers: Endgame
The Irishman
The Lion King
1917
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

Random thoughts:
- Glad I was wrong on Best Picture and Director. Parasite probably deserved both, I guess I didn't think it would happen.
- Glad for Taika Waititi (wish he won more)
- Liked the speeches from Laura Dern, where she talked about her parents, and three other speeches I liked in general because the winners were really shocked and excited Hildur Guðnadóttir, Bong Joon-ho and someone else I can't remember now (should have posted when it happened).

The year's actual best picture winning best picture. One for the books, as they say.
Joker deserved best actor and best score, and that's what it got. I can only think of Marlon Brando and Robert De Niro as Vito Corleone in The Godfather for another example of two different actors winning after playing the same character, although Phoenix and Heath Ledger starred in unconnected films, of course.
Not that I dislike Laura Dern, but I'm not sure I understand all the praise for her performance in Marriage Story. It was a relatively small role and one she could probably have done standing on her head.
I love this guy
Parasite is a great movie BTW.

My guesses, which no one requested, for the big six awards:
Nomadland
Chloé Zhao
Chadwick Boseman
Viola Davis
Daniel Kaluuya
Youn Yuh-jung

One can never fully count on the Academy’s taste aligning with that of the critics, but Nomadland was the best reviewed film of the year and probably my favourite from the nominations I've seen so far.
I'll go Chloé Zhao, Riz Ahmed, Frances McDormand, Daniel Kaluuya and Yuh-Jung Youn for the others.

93rd Academy Awards
Winners List
Best Picture
The Father
Judas and the Black Messiah
Mank
Minari
Nomadland
Promising Young Woman
Sound of Metal
The Trial of the Chicago 7
Best Director
Thomas Vinterberg – Another Round
David Fincher – Mank
Lee Isaac Chung – Minari
Chloé Zhao – Nomadland
Emerald Fennell – Promising Young Woman
Best Actor
Riz Ahmed – Sound of Metal
Chadwick Boseman – Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Anthony Hopkins – The Father
Gary Oldman – Mank
Steven Yeun – Minari
Best Actress
Viola Davis – Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Andra Day – The United States vs. Billie Holiday
Vanessa Kirby – Pieces of a Woman
Frances McDormand – Nomadland
Carey Mulligan – Promising Young Woman
Best Supporting Actor
Sacha Baron Cohen – The Trial of the Chicago 7
Daniel Kaluuya – Judas and the Black Messiah
Leslie Odom Jr. – One Night in Miami
Paul Raci – Sound of Metal
Lakeith Stanfield – Judas and the Black Messiah
Best Supporting Actress
Maria Bakalova – Borat Subsequent Moviefilm
Glenn Close – Hillbilly Elegy
Olivia Colman – The Father
Amanda Seyfried – Mank
Youn Yuh-jung – Minari
Best Original Screenplay
Judas and the Black Messiah – Screenplay by Will Berson and Shaka King; Story by Berson, King, Keith Lucas and Kenny Lucas
Minari – Lee Isaac Chung
Promising Young Woman – Emerald Fennell
Sound of Metal – Screenplay by Abraham Marder and Darius Marder; Story by Derek Cianfrance and D. Marder
The Trial of the Chicago 7 – Aaron Sorkin
Best Adapted Screenplay
Borat Subsequent Moviefilm – Screenplay by Sacha Baron Cohen, Peter Baynham, Jena Friedman, Anthony Hines, Lee Kern, Dan Mazer, Erica Rivinoja and Dan Swimer; Story by Baron Cohen, Hines, Nina Pedrad and Swimer
The Father – Christopher Hampton and Florian Zeller
Nomadland – Chloé Zhao
One Night in Miami... – Kemp Powers
The White Tiger – Ramin Bahrani
Best Animated Feature Film
Onward – Dan Scanlon and Kori Rae
Over the Moon – Peilin Chou, Glen Keane and Gennie Rin
A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon – Will Becher, Paul Kewley and Richard Phelan
Soul – Pete Docter and Dana Murray
Wolfwalkers – Tomm Moore, Stéphan Roelants, Ross Stewart and Paul Young
Best International Feature Film
Another Round (Denmark)
Better Days (Hong Kong)
Collective (Romania)
The Man Who Sold His Skin (Tunisia)
Quo Vadis, Aida? (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
Best Documentary Feature
Collective – Alexander Nanau and Bianca Oana
Crip Camp – Sara Bolder, Jim LeBrecht and Nicole Newnham
The Mole Agent – Maite Alberdi and Marcela Santibáñez
My Octopus Teacher – Pippa Ehrlich, Craig Foster and James Reed
Time – Garrett Bradley, Lauren Domino and Kellen Quinn
Best Documentary Short Subject
Colette – Alice Doyard and Anthony Giacchino
A Concerto Is a Conversation – Kris Bowers and Ben Proudfoot
Do Not Split – Charlotte Cook and Anders Hammer
Hunger Ward – Skye Fitzgerald and Michael Shueuerman
A Love Song for Latasha – Sophia Nahali Allison and Janice Duncan
Best Live Action Short Film
Feeling Through – Doug Roland and Susan Ruzenski
The Letter Room – Elvira Lind and Sofia Sondervan
The Present – Ossama Bawardi and Farah Nabulsi
Two Distant Strangers – Travon Free and Martin Desmond Roe
White Eye – Shira Hochman and Tomer Shushan
Best Animated Short Film
Burrow – Michael Capbarat and Madeline Sharafian
Genius Loci – Adrien Mérigeau and Amaury Ovise
If Anything Happens I Love You – Michael Govier and Will McCormack
Opera – Erick Oh
Yes-People – Arnar Gunnarsson and Gísli Darri Halldórsson
Best Original Score
Da 5 Bloods – Terence Blanchard
Mank – Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross
Minari – Emile Mosseri
News of the World – James Newton Howard
Soul – Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross and Jon Batiste
Best Original Song
"Fight for You" from Judas and the Black Messiah – Music by D'Mile and H.E.R.; lyric by H.E.R. and Tiara Thomas
"Hear My Voice" from The Trial of the Chicago 7 – Music by Daniel Pemberton; lyric by Celeste and Pemberton
"Husavik" from Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga – Music and lyric by Rickard Göransson, Fat Max Gsus and Savan Kotecha
"Io sì (Seen)" from The Life Ahead – Music by Diane Warren; lyric by Laura Pausini and Warren
"Speak Now" from One Night in Miami... – Music and lyric by Sam Ashworth and Leslie Odom Jr.
Best Sound
Greyhound – Beau Borders, Michael Minkler, Warren Shaw and David Wyman
Mank – Ren Klyce, Drew Kunin, Jeremy Molod, Nathan Nance and David Parker
News of the World – William Miller, John Pritchett, Mike Prestwood Smith and Oliver Tarney
Soul – Coya Elliot, Ren Klyce and David Parker
Sound of Metal – Jaime Baksht, Nicolas Becker, Philip Bladh, Carlos Cortés and Michelle Couttolenc
Best Production Design
The Father – Production Design: Peter Francis; Set Decoration: Cathy Featherstone
Ma Rainey's Black Bottom – Production Design: Mark Ricker; Set Decoration: Karen O'Hara and Diana Sroughton
Mank – Production Design: Donald Graham Burt; Set Decoration: Jan Pascale
News of the World – Production Design: David Crank; Set Decoration: Elizabeth Keenan
Tenet – Production Design: Nathan Crowley; Set Decoration: Kathy Lucas
Best Cinematography
Judas and the Black Messiah – Sean Bobbitt
Mank – Erik Messerschmidt
News of the World – Dariusz Wolski
Nomadland – Joshua James Richards
The Trial of the Chicago 7 – Phedon Papamichael
Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Emma. – Laura Allen, Marese Langan and Claudia Stolze
Hillbilly Elegy – Patricia Dehaney, Eryn Krueger Mekash and Matthew W. Mungle
Ma Rainey's Black Bottom – Sergio Lopez-Rivera, Mia Neal and Jamika Wilson
Mank – Colleen LaBaff, Kimberley Spiteri and Gigi Williams
Pinocchio – Dalia Colli, Mark Coulier and Francesco Pegoretti
Best Costume Design
Emma. – Alexandra Byrne
Ma Rainey's Black Bottom – Ann Roth
Mank – Trish Summerville
Mulan – Bina Daigeler
Pinocchio – Massimo Cantini Parrini
Best Film Editing
The Father – Yorgos Lamprinos
Nomadland – Chloé Zhao
Promising Young Woman – Frédéric Thoraval
Sound of Metal – Mikkel E.G. Nielsen
The Trial of the Chicago 7 – Alan Baumgarten
Best Visual Effects
Love and Monsters
The Midnight Sky
Mulan
The One and Only Ivan
Tenet

On 4/16/2021 at 7:41 AM, Michael* said:One can never fully count on the Academy’s taste aligning with that of the critics, but Nomadland was the best reviewed film of the year and probably my favourite from the nominations I've seen so far.
The voters agreed with you about Nomadland.

21 minutes ago, jkjk said:The voters agreed with you about Nomadland.
I should probably have added that I've only seen four out of the eight films nominated so far.
Promising Young Woman is an absolute blast, by far the most purely entertaining of the best picture field, but Nomadland is the best thing I've seen in quite some time. Oddly although I was really jacked for Sound of Metal, it struck me as a fairly "by the book" film, albeit with great work by Riz Ahmed as well as brilliant sound design.
Were you rooting for anyone in particular?

3 minutes ago, Michael* said:Were you rooting for anyone in particular?
Not really rooting. One thing I didn't want to see happen was Chloé Zhao losing for directing after winning every award leading up to the Oscars.

2 hours ago, jkjk said:Not really rooting. One thing I didn't want to see happen was Chloé Zhao losing for directing after winning every award leading up to the Oscars.
Honestly, I thought most of the frontrunners were good choices and well deserving of their expected wins. However with Supporting Actor seemingly up in the air, coupled with the fact that I fondly recall the Alligator Man episode of Atlanta on a virtual daily basis, I will admit to pulling for Lakeith Stanfield.

4 minutes ago, Michael* said:I will admit to pulling for Lakeith Stanfield.
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He is fun to watch.