Victoria's Secret Fashion Show (2017) Pinned

Yaaas! Thrilled we're getting another cringe worthy show pre-show, always such a trip 

So... this just came in...

So Adriana was meant to open the show? If they did open with Nomadic?

Oh, Josephine… This is not the time to front and be all, “I can totally do it!” If you had any hesitations about the wings, you should have voiced them even if it was scary because you didn’t want them to take away the wings from you.

Any link to watch the show?

14 minutes ago, Sanni said:

Oh, Josephine… This is not the time to front and be all, “I can totally do it!” If you had any hesitations about the wings, you should have voiced them even if it was scary because you didn’t want them to take away the wings from you.

It's work I get it. You don't want to look "weak" and without propositive spirit in front of your "boss". I would have done the same.

6 minutes ago, ThePinkDiet said:

It's work I get it. You don't want to look "weak" and without propositive spirit in front of your "boss". I would have done the same.

If I was part of the design team and some model acted like she has no trouble moving with the wings on and then melted down on stage with both wings, I would not be keen on giving her any wings to wear in the future, maybe baby wings at the most. It’s better to address any issues during fittings or even to switch out the wings than make VS look bad on the runway in front of the audience.

36 minutes ago, Sanni said:

 

If I was part of the design team and some model acted like she has no trouble moving with the wings on and then melted down on stage with both wings, I would not be keen on giving her any wings to wear in the future, maybe baby wings at the most. It’s better to address any issues during fittings or even to switch out the wings than make VS look bad on the runway in front of the audience.

Yeah, that's another story. She could have done better, what I'm saying is that it's not that easy to say "no" when the people you work for ask you to take a step forward in your job, which was the big wings for Jo this year.

36 minutes ago, Sanni said:

 

If I was part of the design team and some model acted like she has no trouble moving with the wings on and then melted down on stage with both wings, I would not be keen on giving her any wings to wear in the future, maybe baby wings at the most. It’s better to address any issues during fittings or even to switch out the wings than make VS look bad on the runway in front of the audience.

Agreed! Especially she has always been given showstopping outfits.

It's surprising that Josephine cannot handle large wings.

She looks strong and she has the muscles to carry them IMO, maybe it was really heavy but the design looked light weight.

Other angels have no problems voicing out their opinions on their outfits and if the shoes are too high, wings are too heavy etc.

1 hour ago, ThePinkDiet said:

So Adriana was meant to open the show? If they did open with Nomadic?

Adriana was meant to open Punk and Candice Nomadic..but since it wasn't the last segment anymore Candice opened Punk and Adriana Nomadic

59 minutes ago, ThePinkDiet said:

It's work I get it. You don't want to look "weak" and without propositive spirit in front of your "boss". I would have done the same.

While I understand the hesitation, most employers (at least ones I’ve worked with) would be much happier with an employee that admitted a weakness or deficiency and THEN helped worked towards a situation rather than taking on more than they could handle and not executing the task properly. 

16 minutes ago, peroxideblonde said:

Adriana was meant to open Punk and Candice Nomadic..but since it wasn't the last segment anymore Candice opened Punk and Adriana Nomadic

Oh thanks! Didn't catch that

Just a fun fact about wings...

A friend of mine once said a standard VS wings could weigh up to about 10 pounds. On a 110 pounds model, even a 10 pounds wings can feel like it weighs 25 pounds. Honestly though, I'm not surprise Jo had issues wearing those Porcelain wings. They look like they were easily 25 pounds - 30 pounds. And if you follow the models' insta story, you'll notice they don't do a lot of back training. Just enough that it helps them maintain postures. Most of them train glutes, abs and their core. It's like putting a bag of books on to a child who can barely carry them.

Not surprising again, the heaviest wings usually come from Killer/Armando. Killer uses a lot of wire frames for her wings, Armando puts a lot of jewellery on to his. Pretty sure most Porcelain wings were designed by Serkan, but the one Jo worn might have had its base frame made by Killer. 

Lmao her wings were not even close to 30lbs.  The heaviest wings VS has ever done were Ale’s Passion wings and they were 30lbs and entirely made of metal and crystals. 

The average wing is actually 4-8lbs, and for reference for this show- Elsa’s wing which was entirely covered in heavy crystals was only 14lbs and were said to be one of the heaviest wings. 

Aaand she had trouble with her Punk wings, not the porcelain, i mean both her walk sucked big time, but PA wasnt really because of the wings

Didn’t Sui have the Swarovski wings last year? And she fessed up and said she wouldn’t be able to handle them, instead of looking like a fool on the runway, so they gave it to Lily D (who’s outfit didnt suit the wings, but did a great job of wearing them). Point is, Josephine should’ve told VS those wings were too heavy for her back. I get professionalism, and not wanting to sound weak or lesser than, but VS are always doing fittings and checking in with the models to see if everything looks okay, and would be willing to fulfill personal requests.

Was at the gym this morning and CBS morning news was on. The little promo clip for the show was of Josephine's orangutan-arm walk in Porcelain. 

50 minutes ago, toodarnhot said:

While I understand the hesitation, most employers (at least ones I’ve worked with) would be much happier with an employee that admitted a weakness or deficiency and THEN helped worked towards a situation rather than taking on more than they could handle and not executing the task properly. 

yeah, its kind of unprofessional to lie like that.