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No, I've never read that book or anything by that author.  I am a media watcher so it is highly important for me to be skeptical constantly of journalism and sort of the facts from the morass.

 

I did read something really good along these lines in the past: An old classic text:  Propaganda, The formation of Men's attitudes

 

http://www.amazon.com/Propaganda-The-Formation-Mens-Attitudes/dp/0394718747/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1405795013&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=proproganda

 

Understanding psychological influence, social control, and marketing was on the agenda for me in the past.  I haven't been interested in that recently, though.  I have been ignoring general news on the newswires and focusing only on what I need.  Frankly, I feel better for it; I'm no longer surrounded by bad information. 

 

My last couple of mind-broadening reads were books about strategic planning.  I enjoyed them, particularly the book 'Strategy Safari' (an academic text about the different ways strategy is formulated in the minds of people).  Hobby reading wise, I've been pretty into the Red Army as an institution in WW2 and am currently reading: 'Soviet Operational Art: In pursuit of Deep Battle'.  Prior to this, I completed 'Stumbling Colossus' and 'Collosus Reborn', a two part study on the red army in 1941-1943.  I usually study a dozen pages before I go to bed, and I slowly make progress.

 

 I received 'Death of the Leaping Horseman: The history of the 24th Panzer Division in Stalingrad' in the mail two days ago.  It's an amazing, amazing work.  'Combat history of the 23rd Panzer division' is also coming in the mail next week.

 

 

 

I can´t find myself in any of those examples I generally do not speak much, only when I get passionate enough to stand up for issues I feel strong about - like intolerancy and illiteracy. I can be very agressive at those times, but I´m working on it.

 

Speaking in front of public makes me - to say nervous would be a great understatement!!

 

Andy, I´m currently reading Carl Sagan´s book The Demon Haunted World, have you ever heard about it? It´s brilliant - more than brilliant actually - it makes me think all the time.

 

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Yes, Chile is very Catholic. It's by far the biggest religion here, and in the highest socio-economic classes catholicism is particularly strong, so it's a church that still has quite some power in the country. What is considered one of the best universities here, or even the best is a Catholic university (I studied there a couple of years). There's the tendency as in other places is happening too, of religion losing relevance quickly in the everyday life, and less people is going to church too. But still, Catholicism is quite powerful here, and most the elites are Catholic and deeply conservative.

 

And yes, I'm very thankful that my parents let me choose, even if the forgot about the baptism in the first place 

 

Such an interesting way to be a believer though! So much better and more "pure" that the church's vision. You went through quite an interesting process into becoming atheist.

 

That's precisely what Dawkins said at the end of that TV program I told you about: there's no other life, there's no one up there looking after us, so it's up to us to enjoy as much as we can this only life that we have and every moment of it.

 

I hope societies can evolve someday to the point religion will be unnecessary. But it seems unlikely in the near future. Not only because of people needing religion or some kind of beliefs or "spiritual guidance", but because churches and religions (specially the Catholic church) are in the end huge instruments of power...

 

Religion (one way or another) has always been just an instrument of power - a political concept in fact. With new political concepts emerging (democracy with state segregation from church), religion will have to face many changes, especially becoming a subjective matter of privacy rather than a public thing (my thought). Of course it takes a lots of time and constant techonological progress all over the world, but I think it will happen eventually. 

 

How is life of an atheist in such a strong Catholic place? How does the general public perceive the LGBT community, for example? Have you ever faced any complications because of being non-religious?

 

And yeah, the whole process of mine is very intriguing. It actually proves Dawkins´ theory that children are natural believers. It also proves that religion is not something that is solid - that people, under the weight of evidence, can become atheists very easily. Thanks to my experience with strong faith, I can understand what believers feel, think, and fear. It is extremely comfortable to believe, and people loooove that feeling. It takes balls to face the world "alone". A courage. Determination. At least at the start but then everything turns just so fascinating life becomes a gift. The world opens up suddenly.

 

Yes, that Dawkins´ sentence is very true. I think that some people believe only because it´s comforting - you know, like "I cannot do anything more because I was obdiously destined for this and God wants it like that". They have God like an excuse.

 

They are!

And yes there is, but not so much in detail though. They were the messengers of Manwë, the Lord of the Valar and lord of the wind and sky, and they came to Middle Earth to watch over the mountains in case Melkor/Morgoth returned. They were probably Maiar spirits, such as Gandalf and the other Wizards. And Sauron, he is a Maia spirit too.

Here's another article which refers to the Eagles and what they are:

http://www.elfenomeno.com/info/ver/8942/titulo/-Eran-Maiar-las-Grandes-guilas-br-

 

No, he's not mentioned. Probably by then the character didn't even existed in Tolkien's mind. I don't remember if the White Council exists by that name already in The Hobbit, though it's clear after reading LOTR that it was that what was keeping Gandalf busy, but Saruman isn't mentioned in The Hobbit, neither is Galadriel or Elrond, the rest of the White Council. Legolas doesn't appear either and Thranduil doesn't appear by name, instead he's only referred to as the Elven King. 

But that's mostly because The Hobbit is a more "primitive" work by Tolkien. It was after that he began linking it more carefully to his whole legendarium. So those characters even though they are not named in the book, they do participate in those events, as you can see in the Appendixes and in the Unfinished Tales. With the exception of Legolas who doesn't become a part of the history until LOTR.

 

You're welcome! And that's the interesting part. I think is more of an open question and I guess we'll never know for certain what did he meant by that (in the book he says pretty much the same). I think only Tolkien knew the right answer. And maybe even he wasn't certain about it 

 

Thank you for the link! So much information So, as I understood it, the were not Maiar, but kelvar, according to:

 

 

Se puede concluir entonces que las Grandes Águilas, aun perteneciendo a la especie animal (kelvar), estaban habitadas por "espíritus venidos de lejos", siendo elevadas a un nivel superior por los Valar, que les proporcionaron la capacidad del habla y, según parece por su comportamiento, les dieron también una inteligencia muy superior a la de los otros olvar.

 

 

SO, afterall, it seems like the Hobbit movie does not evolve only around the Hobbit books - but somehow connects all of the other Tolkien works aside from LOTR? At least that´s what it seems to me!

 

I have to say that I immensely enjoy your talking about LOTR and Tolkien´s world - thank you!!

 

¡Son buenísimos! Transcurre principalmente en un continente llamado Westeros (Poniente en la traducción al Español) y con eventos también en Essos, otro continente situado al Este de Westeros. Es básicamente fantasía y con ciertos puntos en común con El Señor de Los Anillos, pero a la vez muy diferente. No hay una lucha clara entre el bien y el mal, si no que cada personaje más bien vela por sus propios intereses y los de sus cercanos. Es en ese sentido "más humano", y a la vez, y por la misma razón es más oscuro también, porque muchos personajes dejan ver lo peor del ser humano. Y en otros se ve lo contrario. Pero nunca es "blanco y negro", siempre tiene matices. La historia también es muy entretenida y además muy compleja.

Al comenzar Juego de Tronos (el 1er libro) han pasado unos 20 años desde una guerra civil que destronó a la dinastía Targaryen, y que instaló a Robert Baratheon como Rey en Westeros. Pero no todos los Targaryen han muerto, quedan los 2 hijos del rey que exiliados en Essos quieren de alguna manera recuperar el trono. Además una amenaza comienza a aparecer en el extremo norte del continente.

 

La traducción es buena, pero son libros muy largos, así que probablemente prefieras leerlos en inglés o incluso en eslovaco, para leerlos más rápido. Son todos de más de 600 páginas, y 2 tienen más de 1000.

 

¡Buenísimo! Me interesa mucho la historia más antigua de todos esos pueblos y su relación temprana con el Imperio Romano. ¿Qué has aprendido de los Celtas con el libro?

 

Más que nada encuentro intrigante el origen de un personaje tan oscuro. Me parece fascinante el averiguar de dónde sale y las razones de por qué es como es, cuáles son sus motivaciones y cómo se vinculan con su origen. Además encontré particularmente notable que sea descendiente directo de Slytherin y que además sea pariente lejano de Harry, a través de los Peverell.

 

!600 páginas! Demasiado mucho por supuesto. El cuento parece interesante pero estoy de acuerdo con ti de que los libros son demasiados largos para leerlos en espaňol. Después de acabar de Harry Potter series quiero continuar con leer en espaňol - quizás ?puedes recomendar algunos libros en espaňol?

 

He aprendido que los Celtas fueron no solo guerreros pero también comerciantes, negociaban con otras culturas y habían sus propias manufacturas de monedas, que se consideraba como aspecto de las civilizaciones avanzadas. Bratislava era un opidum, centro cultural de los "Bójovia", un tribu de Celtas. Varios historiadores creen que caído de su civilización no fue solo por los Germanos y que no fue proceso rápido, pero de lo contrario - era la combinación de varias razones y durante largo periodo. La llegada de los Germanos solo acabó todo y fue el último evento que finalmente representa un fin de los Celtas en Europa.

 

Y seas contento con J.K. Rowling y su historia de Voldemort, ?crees que su origen y todas cosas que se hagan por él fueron suficientes para explicar su carácter?

 

No me recuerdo la historia de Perevell quizás ?puedes refrescar mi memoría?

 

 

Yes I do!! 

They're by far my favorite band ever, I know every song and I just can't get tired of listening to them. Everytime I discover some new detail, or something in the arrangement of a song that sounds particularly interesting. It's always a delight for me listening to their songs and get marveled at the genius of those guys.

Have you ever considered playing their kind of music?

 

I can definitely say that Beatles were genius, their music is perfect, they are legends. I do not listen to them much though, especially because there is so much music to listen to around me I especially like folk and blue-grass, and a good country as well (Czech and Slovak mostly), but in fact my playlist contains everything from clasic music to folk, rock, musicals, chanson, enka, jazz, to Vladimir Vysockij and Ekaterina Klimova - I love all kinds of music

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#4343

No, I've never read that book or anything by that author.  I am a media watcher so it is highly important for me to be skeptical constantly of journalism and sort of the facts from the morass.

 

I did read something really good along these lines in the past: An old classic text:  Propaganda, The formation of Men's attitudes

 

http://www.amazon.com/Propaganda-The-Formation-Mens-Attitudes/dp/0394718747/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1405795013&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=proproganda

 

Understanding psychological influence, social control, and marketing was on the agenda for me in the past.  I haven't been interested in that recently, though.  I have been ignoring general news on the newswires and focusing only on what I need.  Frankly, I feel better for it; I'm no longer surrounded by bad information. 

 

My last couple of mind-broadening reads were books about strategic planning.  I enjoyed them, particularly the book 'Strategy Safari' (an academic text about the different ways strategy is formulated in the minds of people).  Hobby reading wise, I've been pretty into the Red Army as an institution in WW2 and am currently reading: 'Soviet Operational Art: In pursuit of Deep Battle'.  Prior to this, I completed 'Stumbling Colossus' and 'Collosus Reborn', a two part study on the red army in 1941-1943.  I usually study a dozen pages before I go to bed, and I slowly make progress.

 

 I received 'Death of the Leaping Horseman: The history of the 24th Panzer Division in Stalingrad' in the mail two days ago.  It's an amazing, amazing work.  'Combat history of the 23rd Panzer division' is also coming in the mail next week.

Maybe I´ve asked you before and maybe not - why is it that you´re so fascinated with the WW2 and not WW1? I perceive this among general people around me as well, like 99% of them tend to be much more interested in WW2 than the first one.

 

What did you learn from the Strategy Safari book?

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Which ice-cream do you like the most? I love chocolate one, cocoa, vanilla and cookie the most

 

Oh, cats are amazing in so another kind of way. They are free-spirited, strong individuals, no pets I love cats as much as I love dogs and when I will have the opportunity to have both in the future, I´ll be extremely happy. Having a cat at home is like having a partner (in a friend-kind of way) and having a dog is like having a best friend. I get along well with both cats are adventurers you never know what they´ll do next

 

Dogs are devoted to their master and thus they create a huge responsibility. To have a dog is a thing for life, especially because dogs are naturally social and automatically create a pack (no matter its members! Dogs can make a pack with anyone and anything, let it be humans, another dogs, cats and humans, sheep, horses...) and follow its leader.

 

And I´m planning to take two dogs at once, with the requirement of them getting well along each other. The best would be if the shelter had two dogs that cannot be separated because of their closeness - and I know they had such pair, but now they are not listed in the offer, so I do not really know.

 

He is latino, afterall, isn´t he?

 

I really like that the techniques he uses are concentrated around what dogs really are - from the evolutionary and biological kind of view. The pack organization, the dominance of the leader, the roles every dog finally adopts that are natural to him - these are the techniques I´ve seen in all the documentaries about wolves. He speaks to dogs in their language, where words are unnecessary and it´s all about posture, emotions, tone of the voice, physical contact.

 

What are K9´s?

Hmm that's a tough one as it's about what the palate craves at the giving time but I am very fond of chocolate here too, mint 'n' chip or a nice REAL vanilla bean ice cream

 

I'm not a cat person per say but they are nice in that they bury their own poop Cats are no doubt much more independent and a stronger sense of free-spirit for sure Hmm, lets just hope that the cats and dogs can get along in your place. If not you will have some interesting episodes in your life coming Jennka

 

Oh I will not say much other then I agree fully with your description of what a dog is to us LOL, I once heard it put this way when it comes to cats and dogs perspective on humans. Dogs see humans as a god, since each and every day we give them food, water and love. Cats see us as just a BIGGER cat and thus the relationship and attitudes cats have towards us

 

Ah good idea on the pairing That sounds like the perfect idea so long as you can find that pair Make sure to have that dog house ready too Knowing you guys you will probably build one heck of a mansion for them

 

Yep, I believe he is Mhmm, he basically treats them like dogs and not humans as they obviously have a whole different physiology and psychology to them than humans But of course that does not mean you can't love them like a family member but people need to realize you are dealing with a dog and not person and thus you must have the proper techniques to train and discipline your dog accordingly

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Religion (one way or another) has always been just an instrument of power - a political concept in fact. With new political concepts emerging (democracy with state segregation from church), religion will have to face many changes, especially becoming a subjective matter of privacy rather than a public thing (my thought). Of course it takes a lots of time and constant techonological progress all over the world, but I think it will happen eventually. 

 

How is life of an atheist in such a strong Catholic place? How does the general public perceive the LGBT community, for example? Have you ever faced any complications because of being non-religious?

 

And yeah, the whole process of mine is very intriguing. It actually proves Dawkins´ theory that children are natural believers. It also proves that religion is not something that is solid - that people, under the weight of evidence, can become atheists very easily. Thanks to my experience with strong faith, I can understand what believers feel, think, and fear. It is extremely comfortable to believe, and people loooove that feeling. It takes balls to face the world "alone". A courage. Determination. At least at the start but then everything turns just so fascinating life becomes a gift. The world opens up suddenly.

 

Yes, that Dawkins´ sentence is very true. I think that some people believe only because it´s comforting - you know, like "I cannot do anything more because I was obdiously destined for this and God wants it like that". They have God like an excuse.

 

 

 

Ah yes it is, and it has been since thousands of years too, not just Christianity. So it's a good thing that it's power has been diminishing specially since the past century. State segregation from church is actually one of the best things that could have happened in this matter. Here state and church became separated in 1925. How is it in your country?

 

For me it actually haven't made any difference so far. I went to a non religious school (owned by franc-masons actually) so it was never an issue. Then I went to a Catholic University, but even there it wasn't an issue at all. So on a personal level things are just the same for me being an atheist. What bothers me is the power and influence the church has on some political things, since the right wing (and a part of the left wing too) is deeply Catholic, and so is an important fraction of the socio-economic elite.  So they tend to try and keep things quite conservative.

 

Edit: Forgot to answer one question...

About the LGBT community, in general people are becoming slowly more aware and open minded towards them. But they're still perceived as "weird" maybe, and of course some Christian people (no only Catholics) see them almost as an aberration or something like that. Recently i had an interesting debate with a deeply Christian friend, and I was amazed at the way they see them: for them is like they are sinners just because of the way they are...

 

I remember he talked about that aspect of children in the TV program I saw. Interesting and it does makes sense. He spoke about the "blind faith" and obedience children have toward their parents and how this is an evolutionary trait.

Again, it's an interest process the one you went through, and it actually may help to be more tolerant since you understand the other view. For the most I've seen quite inverse process: some atheist/agnostic people not very sure of their own posture that became almost hard edge Christians. Not a common thing though. But some of those get this "aura of superiority" since they think they've "seen the light" and the real truth...

 

It is indeed more comfortable and easy for most of the people to believe in a deity. It "solves" many problems and as you say it serves as a perfect excuse for many things.

 

 

Thank you for the link! So much information So, as I understood it, the were not Maiar, but kelvar, according to:

 

 

Se puede concluir entonces que las Grandes Águilas, aun perteneciendo a la especie animal (kelvar), estaban habitadas por "espíritus venidos de lejos", siendo elevadas a un nivel superior por los Valar, que les proporcionaron la capacidad del habla y, según parece por su comportamiento, les dieron también una inteligencia muy superior a la de los otros olvar.

 

 

SO, afterall, it seems like the Hobbit movie does not evolve only around the Hobbit books - but somehow connects all of the other Tolkien works aside from LOTR? At least that´s what it seems to me!

 

I have to say that I immensely enjoy your talking about LOTR and Tolkien´s world - thank you!!

 

 

 

 

You're welcome!

Oh it's been quite so time since I read those articles (I went through pretty much all of them when I was in high school), so I didn't remember that.

I just read the article again and it's quite clear that the Great Eagles aren't Maiar. The strongest proof is that they have offspring, and the Maiar (with just one exception) can't.

And while kelvar only means they are animals, they are apparently inhabited by some kind of spirit not of Ainu nature, as the quote says (the Ainur are the first spirits created by Ilúvatar, and they are divided in Valar and Maiar).

 

The only problem with those articles is that they haven't been updated almost since the time I first read them, and it's been years since a new one was published  .

 

Exactly! The movie takes elements from other books as well and not just The Hobbit and LOTR, and as you say it somehow connects many of them. Which is an aspect I really liked too.

 

I enjoy a lot talking about this! I'm really passionate about Tolkien's world and it's great to share all of it Awesome that you like it too!

 

 

!600 páginas! Demasiado mucho por supuesto. El cuento parece interesante pero estoy de acuerdo con ti de que los libros son demasiados largos para leerlos en espaňol. Después de acabar de Harry Potter series quiero continuar con leer en espaňol - quizás ?puedes recomendar algunos libros en espaňol?

 

 

 

He aprendido que los Celtas fueron no solo guerreros pero también comerciantes, negociaban con otras culturas y habían sus propias manufacturas de monedas, que se consideraba como aspecto de las civilizaciones avanzadas. Bratislava era un opidum, centro cultural de los "Bójovia", un tribu de Celtas. Varios historiadores creen que caído de su civilización no fue solo por los Germanos y que no fue proceso rápido, pero de lo contrario - era la combinación de varias razones y durante largo periodo. La llegada de los Germanos solo acabó todo y fue el último evento que finalmente representa un fin de los Celtas en Europa.

 

Y seas contento con J.K. Rowling y su historia de Voldemort, ?crees que su origen y todas cosas que se hagan por él fueron suficientes para explicar su carácter?

 

No me recuerdo la historia de Perevell quizás ?puedes refrescar mi memoría?

 

 

 

Sí, son muy largos. El 3º, Tormenta de Espadas tiene algo así como 1200 páginas, y el 5º, Danza de Dragones algo más de 1000 también.

Libros en Español... La mayoría que he leído son libros en otros idiomas y traducidos al español. Libros escritos en el idioma no he leído tantos.

Por ser un clásico muy conocido te podría recomendar algo de Gabriel García Marquez, pero la verdad es que a mi nunca me gustaron sus libros, creo que leí 2 o 3 de el y ninguno me gustó. El más conocido es Cien Años de Soledad, que quizás te podría interesar leer, pero a mi definitivamente no me gustó ese libro.

Hace no mucho leí Los Idus de Marzo, es una novela histórica que trata sobre los últimos días de Julio Cesar antes de ser asesinado. Es del mismo autor de los libros Alexandros, que tratan de la vida de Alejandro Magno.

 

 

No sabía que acuñaban su propia moneda

Sobre la caída de su civilización/cultura me parece más lógico también que haya sido parte de un proceso más extenso y no solo un evento puntual relacionado con los Germanos.

Interesante tema. Sobre los Celtas nunca he encontrado mucho. Aunque tampoco he buscado o estudiado tanto en comparación con otras civilizaciones y culturas de la época.

 

 

Por supuesto!

Los Peverell eran los 3 magos del Cuento de los Tres Hermanos que cuenta Hermione. Ellos desafiaron a la Muerte al cruzar un puente y consiguieron de ella las Reliquias de la Muerte. Tom Riddle es descendiente del segundo hermano, que tenía la Piedra de Resurrección, que estaba en el anillo de los Gaunt. Y Harry es descendiente del tercer hermano, el que tenía la capa de invisibilidad. 

 

 

Have you ever considered playing their kind of music?

 

 

I can definitely say that Beatles were genius, their music is perfect, they are legends. I do not listen to them much though, especially because there is so much music to listen to around me I especially like folk and blue-grass, and a good country as well (Czech and Slovak mostly), but in fact my playlist contains everything from clasic music to folk, rock, musicals, chanson, enka, jazz, to Vladimir Vysockij and Ekaterina Klimova - I love all kinds of music

 

 

They're my biggest influence, but for some reason that is not so evident within my own music. I rather go my own way when creating my stuff though, but sometime something in a more "Beatles-style" will probably come up.

I've played quite a lot of Beatles music though, be it covers or some other material I use to play when on acoustic format. With my bands we played several Beatles covers, and I've recorded some more too. Once we even played the White Album as a whole

 

Agreed, their music is, for me too, perfect!

Oh I love bluegrass too! I haven't had the chance to listen much of it though. Same "problem" there's too much music to listen 

I see you have a great variety on your playlist, that's great! You have any particular favorite artist?

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Why are people more interested in WW2? I find it, in general, is because WW2 is the genesis of modern history and the modern world.  It was the pivotal event (the term 'postwar') gets thrown a lot.  WW1's actions lead to WW2, but the impact of WW1 has faded to a much greater extent than WW2 has.  WW2 craved europe, north america, and asia to a remarkable extent.

 

People tend to be interested in WW2 generally, and then interested in specific aspects.  Some are interested in, for instance, the sea battles and other are interested in tanks only.  It's remarkably diverse.

 

So this is very complicated question that would lead to many other questions and explanations. :-)  I am interested in WW1 as well.  In fact it was the first war that fascinated me when I was child.  The general history of the rest of the wars of the 20th-21st century has interested me as well- for instance a few months ago I read about urban combat operations and tactics in Iraq and in Chechnya.  

 

Out of the wars though, WW1, WW2, Korean War, Vietnam are prioritized.  I have a strong general understanding of the entirety of World War 2 due to being interested in it for twenty years. 

 

But the source of fascination is more focused on something else not necessarily related to war: It's institutions, management, personal experience and leadership.  I am fascinated by  'organizations' professionally so naturally my interest in institutions are highlighted in the study of war.

 

I like the war between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany & allies the most.  It is purist of all wars and to me..the greatest of all struggles.  The complexity and details of the ground operations is what stimulates my interest the most.

 

These are the hobby books I read in 2014 so far.  They are deliberate:  I am trying to get a good understanding of armored and infantry warfare.

 

1.       Stumbling colossus

2.       Colossus reborn

3.       Hitler’s Nemesis: the Red army

4.       (Half) Soviet operational art: In pursuit of Deep battle

5.       Soviet Defense tactics at Kursk

6.       Standing Fast: German defense doctrine

7.       Panzer tactics: German small unit armor

8.       T-34 in Action

9.       Panzer Killers: Soviet Anti-tank

10.   Red Army Tank commanders

11.   Stopped at Stalingrad

12.   Winter Storm

13.   Beyond Stalingrad

14.   Death of the Leaping Horseman 24th Panzer

 

 

 

Maybe I´ve asked you before and maybe not - why is it that you´re so fascinated with the WW2 and not WW1? I perceive this among general people around me as well, like 99% of them tend to be much more interested in WW2 than the first one.

 

What did you learn from the Strategy Safari book?

 

 

This is message I sent to someone who asked me the same thing:

 

 

 

Since you've mentioned Senge, I've read many books on strategy (including The Fifth Discipline) and this book:
 
Strategy Safari, is easily the best one as it is a broad, encompassing overview of different types of strategic thinking.  Systems thinking is just one of many.  The professors split strategic thinking into 10 schools, and within each school they write about introduction to different types.   They includes their strengths and their weaknesses..and  they are  highly critical.  They dive from artificial intelligence to cognitive psychology to strategic planning.  
 
 The table of contents of the 2nd edition gives a preview of its contents.
 
 
 
Their ten schools of strategic thinking:
 
1. Design (organizational design, strategy into structure)
2. Planning (strategic planning in organizations)
3. Positioning (tactics, invokes Clausewitz and others)
4. Entrepreneurial (the visionary leader who drives strategy)
5. Cognitive (How strategies form in human minds via cognitive psychology)
6. Learning (How strategies emerge via dynamic processes in groups and organizations )
 
7. Power- political science-Making strategies in organizations always deal with politics (internal and external) so the political angle is always there.
 
8. Cultural-anthropology- How culture, ideology, and best practices arises in organizations, its role in solidifying a strategy (culture is described the glue that sets the course), culture's role in influencing the strategies that are developed in the first place, how it can be changed.
 
9. Environmental- biological, political sociology-External influences on strategy and organization.
 
10. Configuration-history, categorization, lumping and splitting- making a strategic model, org structure and organizational history that unifies the above 9, organizational change (renewal/revolution)
 
 
The authors invoke the idea of many, many types of strategic thinking and how humans chose only a few at a time.
The other dimensions of strategy:
 
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Another is the idea of 'formalized' strategy- the type that is written down and composed into statistics, power point decks & orders
 
They put the Design, Planning, and positioning in this camp.  A lot of military thinking (Clautzwitz, Sun Tzu, etc.) tends to be in the positioning camp.
 
 
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#4347

Ever had this Olomoucke syrecky

 

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I heard it mentioned by this Czech metal band . I looked it up and there wasn't much about it although I think I know a spot in Philadelphia that probably has it. I read that it was peasant food but that Emperor Rudolf II loved it. One of the band members was really raving about it and made me curious. 
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#4348

 

Those are good pics indeed! Bregje definetly has THE ASS

 

Well technically nina already got a cover...is it bad that I already forgot about that cover? It was nice, but thats how memorable I found it IMO. I hope Nina gets a solo cover....like you said most likely kate upton, but nina has been growing a large social media following I think she has a good chance

For me, those pics are much better than those that actually made it to mag

 

That cover was...nice...yawn...Chrissy there... yawn... but yeah, it was a cover afterall I´m really hopping for something much better, much sexier, and Nina definitely CAN deliver that.

 

WHO chooses the cover, do you know?

 

They really are

 

They whole cover was just yawn.. I mean it was pretty and the girls looked nice..but I just feel it was so forgettable IMO. I think Solo covers seem to be more memorable than most group covers..

 

I have no idea, I assume MJ has alot of say but IDK. I think they choose who will get the cover based on one thing $$$ sales and popularity

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#4349

OMFG I am sharing this with everyone, just watch plz

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#4350

I saw this and I immediately thought "R-rated Miyazaki and Wes Anderson".  It's very creative, intricately constructed and whimsical.  I thought you'd like it:

 

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Shutter 001-005 (2014) 

 

http://uploaded.net/file/pimlvosf

http://rg.to/file/3ce5186f57c0bafe21572c16fab7741a
http://terafile.co/f96976306135
http://www.filefactory.com/file/l98b8n0vz3r/

 

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#4351

Hey Jennka u like pizza right...not after you watch this



AND

Just watch plz!

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#4352

Jennka, I started reading The God Delusion

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#4353

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@robotyreczne

Think Jac is a 'Red Dwarf' fan?

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#4354

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JENNKA!! 

 

Hope everything is going good.

(We miss you here)

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#4355

Happy birthday

 

certainly greatly  missed :chicken:

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#4356

Happy Birthday, dear Jennka.  This is an especially special one.

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#4357

Happy Birthday Jenka !   

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#4358

Another comic that reminds me of your art style.  I like it, particularly the Hilary Rhoda-like Wonder Woman.  You've been missed. :

 

http://viewcomic.com/the-legend-of-wonder-woman-007-2015/

 

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#4359

@Jennka we miss you!  

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#4360

^^ a lot!

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