Let's Play Hard To Get

I guess not. I was just looking for an excuse to use that smiley...

So... do you play this game too?

[EDIT: I had a few paragraphs written but realized it's probably better not to reveal trade secrets.]

so, it is true that biracial people are more attracted to other biracial people? cuz thats how it is with me

nah I just like black boys HAHA

they are just more interesting to me when their mixed

I guess because i'm superficial and i care a lot about looks

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hahahaa i just realized his shirt is sticking out so it looks like he has a ...

boner

they're about the same size.. over 6 feet, of course, because that is essential

well no, I lie ... the "other" is bigger muscular wise ... but they are around the same height

I guess not. I was just looking for an excuse to use that smiley...

So... do you play this game too?

[EDIT: I had a few paragraphs written but realized it's probably better not to reveal trade secrets.]

what game are you talking about I think I need the pictures you deleted to understand.

i couldn't find a good one

i'll tell u want .. this is how cosmo says u can get rid of a guy. don't play impossible to get like this:

Cut Him Off Quickly

The best way to deter a guy without having to be a total bitch is to send him "not interested" signals loud and clear. "You have to act detached," says Bernstein. "Your body language and actions are important because men often mistake friendly gestures for sexual advances." So don't play with your hair or maintain eye contact with him while he's talking to you. Quickly turn down his offer to buy you a drink and make sure you don't inadvertently touch him.

You also have to watch what you're saying. For instance, if you tell him you have a boyfriend, he'll quip, "Yeah, but is he here?" Instead try, "Sorry, but I'm really devoted to my man." Or rather than saying you can't talk "now" (his reply: "How about later?"), say something with closure, like "I have to talk to someone else, but have a good night." And if he tells a joke, don't laugh -- you'll only encourage him.

Get Him to Back Off

If the dude refuses to relent, try making frequent eye contact with other people in the room who can come to your rescue. "Ask for help with your eyes," suggests Kimmel. "Look at a waitress or a friend so she'll see your discomfort." But if you're on your own, you have to be more ruthless.

"Look him straight in the eye and say in a strong voice, 'I'm really not interested,' " says Bernstein. Then turn away. Most men will respond by putting their tails between their legs.

nah I just like black boys HAHA

nah I just like black boys HAHA

What ethnicity are you? I've ALWAYS wanted to use the word "mudshark" in a sentance.

Would you happen to be such?

That would so make my day!

How much older were you? At that age, it's easy to commit with someone that's the same age because you're near the same point in your lives but when the guy is a few years older, the story gets complicated. It doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't dig your sh** but it could also mean she's just not plain ready. Don't be too hard on them for being that way. You'll feel sooo mean later if you find out that she actually liked you a lot and she was crying herself to sleep for a week because of you.

Then again, if she really wasn't that into you, no problem. "maximum f** you" away! ^_^

How much older were you? At that age, it's easy to commit with someone that's the same age because you're near the same point in your lives but when the guy is a few years older, the story gets complicated. It doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't dig your sh** but it could also mean she's just not plain ready. Don't be too hard on them for being that way. You'll feel sooo mean later if you find out that she actually liked you a lot and she was crying herself to sleep for a week because of you.

Then again, if she really wasn't that into you, no problem. "maximum f** you" away! ^_^

what? this isn't based on my personal experience at all....

what? this isn't based on my personal experience at all....

and reveal some of my mystique? never! haha...

How much older were you? At that age, it's easy to commit with someone that's the same age because you're near the same point in your lives but when the guy is a few years older, the story gets complicated. It doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't dig your sh** but it could also mean she's just not plain ready. Don't be too hard on them for being that way. You'll feel sooo mean later if you find out that she actually liked you a lot and she was crying herself to sleep for a week because of you.

Then again, if she really wasn't that into you, no problem. "maximum f** you" away! ^_^

have you ever thought it was a game she thought you liked? and was too young to understand limits.

innocent until proven guilty... my heart can take it.

I love the hard to get game.

I follow a certain theory on this, and there's a whole community which does, and it seems to be true.

From a guy's Point of View, the important points (for his own success) are:

Physical Attractiveness

Social Value

Dominance

Sensitivity

Physical Attractiveness is Youth+Health+Masculinity. Masculinity can be accentuated through style... Style is what governs 90% of looks. Broad shoulders, strong jawline... these things can be made to look better through selective clothing and hairstyle. And for a woman, the same is true. Good style will make anyone double as good looking. The second thing is health: biologically, women are attracted to what, in a caveman environment, would be the best father for her child. And men, the best mother. Thus, being overweight (hence less able to protect and raise children, as well as oneself) is unattractive. As is various other things (weak immune system, which skin damage can sometimes be an indication of). Etc. And youth. The closer to the 18-30 range an individual is, the more sexually attractive they are. This is all fairly well known. It annoys me when someone considers themself ugly. I've never seen anyone, man or woman, in the 40-16 range who if they'd work out a bit, get in good shape, and most importantly, style themselves correctly, would not look at the VERY LEAST average/above average.

Men value physical attractiveness in a woman much higher than desirability, although the two generally go hand in hand. Women seem to put an equal degree of importance on Looks, Social Value and Dominance in a man. Someone who has all three (or appears to) will go far.

Social Value? What is it? At the most basic level, it's tribal mentality. The Alpha Dog. Males respect him, women desire him. How does one achieve Social Value (Alpha Male status) in a complex western society? It's a blend of fame, power, money, Social Rank in one's primary environment (e.g. a manager in a company, or a football player in a school), and Dominance.

Dominance. Dominance is being in control. A dominant male is confident. He knows he's superior. Or at least acts like he is. And other people treat him as superior. Body language, physical size, and personality are all very important. Most men aren't dominant. And most men don't get a lot of women. And any man by learning how to behave like a dominant male will probably become a dominant male.

Finally, Sensitivity. Why do jerks get hot girls? Because they're dominant. And they act like they have social value. Whether they do or not doesn't matter. Take a look at an average Puerto Rican gangster type, and compare him to an average polo shirt, eyeglass-wearing office worker? Who do you think has more girlfriends? Just go down to the mall and watch. Jerks get more sex. Because jerks dominate other males. But what they usually lack is sensitivity. Which means that even if women are attracted (sexually) to them, they usually don't like them (personality-wise).

So how does one demonstrate these traits?

Looks = Style + Health + Youth. No need to go over this again. Work out until you're in good shape, get a good hairstyle, you're ready to roll.

Social Value. How do you demonstrate (or fake) Social Value? Someone who's socially valuable will have many women who want them. If you want to experiment, try approaching a random girl, getting into a conversation and mentioning you've only ever had sex with one woman. Good fucking look, brother. Now try the same approach, exact same words, but try being a jerk. Say "my girlfriend wants to break up with me cause I was cheating on her"... now you've demonstrated vast lack of sensitivity, but you've demonstrated that at least two women are attracted to you, furthermore subconsciously you've implied your girlfriend wants to break up with you, but hasn't, even tho you cheated on her, which implies high attractiveness. If you go around talking about all the girlfriends you have, it's clear you're bragging, it doesn't work. If it's obvious just by walking into a club with 4 girls, then you get the Social Value. If you say it so subtly, it doesn't look like your bragging, but the girl gets the message. What else? someone who has Social Value has a good life. Parties, et al. Try saying "I was out with my friend Bob at a bar a few nights ago and this drunk crackhead over the road was trying to get us into a fight with him. It was funny. Bob ended up knocking him out, and then we called a cab and went home." Might have been a fun story in reality, but it isn't any use. If you hear a guy say this to you, you don't make any conclusions about him, other than he went to a bar, and has a friend. Now, basically the same story but modified so it implies social value. "A few nights ago, this dude JD called me, he's a promoter at [some nightclub] and he calls me up saying he has some VIP tickets left over for [some musician] performing live. So I figured I'd ask this girl out for the night, so I call her up and she fucking turns up with her friends, which kinda ruined the date, but whatever. So we go down to [nightclub], have a few drinks and shit. And I go outside, and this fucking crackhead, literally fucking homeless dude, is hitting on my girl. And I was like 'what the fuck?' and he's like 'BRING IT!'... so my friend Bob, he's a marine, is laughing his ass off. I was like 'fuck it, I'm going home', so I call a cab, and meanwhile the crackhead has got into a fight with Bob. Being a marine, he's pretty pissed off. So I'm fucking flagging down this cab, with my hand out, and there's Bob beating the shit out of this guy. The look on the cab driver's face was fucking priceless. I'm opening the door to the cab, and Bob is busy finishing off knocking this guy flat unconscious." which is a true story, by the way. Get it? In that story, it's the same story, but you've demonstrated you have several friends, you have fun parties, you have good nights, you're dominant enough to be willing to get into a fight, but confident enough that you don't need to jump at the oppurtunity, plus it's funny, plus you were out (implicitly) with several women, as well as your date, as well as a good friend (and the fact that he's a very 'masculine' friend implies masculinity/dominance on your part). That's how to talk. Make everything you say a subtle indication of value. There's an art to it. Finally, the way you act. Which is where 'hard to get' comes in. If you act like 'you like this girl [the one you're aiming for], and for some reason she's really special, but it's not like you're desperate in any way', it's going to come easy. That's the mindset to have in mind. Imagine you're already fucking Angelina Jolie and Jessica Alba, but you're trying to get Natalie Portman to go on a date with you. Act like that. Think like that. Talk like that.

Once you've got a girl's number, ask her out, like it's not a big deal. Straight up. You go out with girls (probably several) every day of the week, it's not like it's a big deal. If she says she's busy or doesn't answer you, do the same back, but subtly. My favorite trick is to pretend to leave town. I ask a girl out, usually they say yes straight up. If she says she can't tonight, but gives another time and date, it's on. She's probably genuine. If she postpones more than once, then I send a message like "Hey, listen, I wanted to let you know I'm leaving for New York tomorrow morning, so I won't be available anytime over next week. I'll call you when I get back." You've now turned around the game. You're not just hard to get, you're fucking unavailable. If she ignores this, I don't text her anymore. 9/10 she'll respond, so I respond back a day or two later, and then a few days after that to sort out a date. Always works. I don't play hard to get. I just play like I'm in control. Do you run your life around trying to get some friend of the same sex to hang out with you? fuck no. Do you give a fuck if he goes out with you or not? Not really. It's just fun. So I act like that. And it works. If she's too hard to get, she's not worth the effort. And likely, you're not man enough to make her really want you. Furthermore, never, ever, be desperate to sex. The undertone should be: unless you're in a relationship, you're probably having a few one night stands. Talk like that, act like that. You don't need the sex. When it comes to the time, the reason you want the sex with her is because she's earned it. You want her, because you want HER, not because you want "sex with a hot chick." You get that all the time.

Dominance... This is more about how you think internally than anything else, but it also comes across in the way you talk and act. Talk calmly, slowly, deeply. Speak when you want to, not because someone wants you to. Do what you want to do, within social norms. Don't give a fuck what she wants or anyone the fuck else wants, do what you want. But don't be a jerk (although that's better than being a pansy). Be a bit cocky. And treat all other men as just slightly inferior. Don't let other guys touch you dominantly. Make subtle but friendly jabs and put downs. Not in a passive/agressive way, but in a simply friendly but superior way. Like "You're a really cool dude, man, I think I like you." You're acting like you're the judge of him, hence superior. Walk with your back straight, smile on your face, maintain strong eye contact. You fucking own the place. And if it becomes physical, which it might if you're openly taking on another dominant male, pray to god you've got the muscle to back it up. Although better yet, it's quite easy to make another guy look like an idiot for trying to get into a fight with you.

It works for me. Don't know if it will work for others, but it works for me, and some of my friends. I have friends (primarily online, but I know a few of them in real life) who have been on TV many times, writers for Askmen.com, for Men's Fitness Magazine, authors of NYT best sellers -- dating/relationship/seduction coaches. I like their advice. Getting women isn't about aiming and hitting, or working hard to 'get' a girl. It's about being a masculine, dominant, strong, attractive, funny, self-confident, socially intuitive, popular man who's fun to be around, and not an asshole. Make yourself that, then women want you not the other way around. The games still exist, but it's a lot different. A different perspective. I don't know. It works for me.

And with me, it always helps that when a girl adds me on Facebook, just take a look at my friends list or at my wall. 50% of my friends are female (which is how it should be), and on my wall, 90% of what you see is women (attractive women) posting comments like "I miss you, John."

Immediately she sees that many other girls like me, they're comfortable with me. That's natural. A good alpha male will have many friends, of all kinds. Many female friends. And sexual relationships between a good quality male and a good looking woman is normal and probable.

I don't know if I sounded like a nerd, a player, an abuser, a misogynist, a realist, or anything else. And honestly, I could give a flying fuck. I'm just stating how I operate. It might start off as a sort of deceit. Acting like something you're not. But after a time, it becomes true. You might fake popularity, dominance, confidence, sexual experience... fake it long enough, people see that, and after a while it becomes true. In my experience... although I never had to fake it, since all my life I've had a fairly easy time with women : )

Long post by the [solo]. Please call bullshit where you see fit.

nah I just like black boys HAHA

What ethnicity are you? I've ALWAYS wanted to use the word "mudshark" in a sentance.

Would you happen to be such?

That would so make my day!

i'm playin this game for over 4 years. actually i'm not tired yet, and i aint gonna be for quite a long time, coz i aint gonna surrender so easily, but the point of all this is what i get in the end and after how much time. i donno

u get bored, u move on to play with the next dame or bloke.

Lol, I accept this dedication with gratitude and honor, and humility. My thanks to the people of Bellazon, and the one and only Alexa Lowe. (Who needs to get better taste in guys btw ).

P.S. Excellent communication trick: ever been rejected by use of the word 'but'... in txt msg'ing, in asking for a number, anywhere? Just flip the statements.

Examples:

"Let's hang out. " "I'd like to give you my number, but I just met you..." - by arguing you imply neediness. Just flip the statement. "Cool. You just met be, but you'd like to give me your number... when do you want to meet up *hand over phone*"

"*you ask her out*" "I want to go to dinner with you, but I'm kinda tired." - "Cool, you're tired but you want to go to dinner, let's make it short then."

i know her home number, her mobile number, she know mine, as home as well as mobile. i know her favourite tunes, movies, books, colors, actors, actresses, i even know her mother but all in all i'm still goin alone. so the last word is still up to girl to say, does she want me, or she doesn't

p.s. we chat and communicate practically every day