Member Management

Oh I see! Thanks James

Might have overdone it a bit whilst replying to Joe > Average in Marisa Miller's thread, but I've cleaned up the exchanges and deleted one of my own posts. I took it to PM and things are cool again. Still, he was asking for it a bit with the sarcastic tone he used in his reply to Pinky.

^ Thx Herve!!!

montagequeen05 keeps on promoting his/her personal site on this forum <_< Not sure should we warn or ban him/her

Here is an example of his/her post: http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?s=&...t&p=1083601

I deleted all his posts, we can go head and send him a msg saying that he cant spam the fourm and if he does it again we will ban him.

What happened to Adriana's Candids thread?

its sitting in the thread tomb....someone delete it?

I certainly didn't... I can't imagine why anyone else would.

hmmm its says that Pinky did it

i'm gonna leave it there until she responds...she might have had a reason behind it

^ Yes, it was I I deleted it by accident I meant to delete the spam posts, not the whole thread. Sorry guys---I will fix it now

Speaking of spam post, has anyone PMed montagequeen05 yet? He is still spamming threads w/ links to his personal site <_<

nope thought u had sent him a msg

nways i deleted all his posts *again* and sent him the following:

montagequeen05,

We have deleted all your posts because they are just shameless plugs of your website. If you continue telling people to visit your website in every single post you will be banned.

~maddog107

What happened to Adriana's Candids thread?

like anyone actualy visits her thread nways

Oh, by the way, MadDog: you need to be somewhat more open with several major elements of the website. You are exclusively controlling the domain name, the FTP server, and the advertising, without providing the account information to the other Administrators, which is highly inappropriate.

The advert system is in major need of a fix-up: the content of the ads is terrible, the income is pathetic, and the weird features of the ads make them very annoying. The FTP account, the domain name ownership, and the advertising accounts should be accessible by all of the Administrators. There is absolutely no reason why you should have any sort of superiority or exclusive access more than any other Admin.

Cheers

Warned casey_ryback420 for flaming in Veronica Varekova's thread.

You here, James?

Oh, by the way, MadDog: you need to be somewhat more open with several major elements of the website. You are exclusively controlling the domain name, the FTP server, and the advertising, without providing the account information to the other Administrators, which is highly inappropriate.

The advert system is in major need of a fix-up: the content of the ads is terrible, the income is pathetic, and the weird features of the ads make them very annoying. The FTP account, the domain name ownership, and the advertising accounts should be accessible by all of the Administrators. There is absolutely no reason why you should have any sort of superiority or exclusive access more than any other Admin.

Cheers

havent we already talked about this like million times before in IM?

you have no *need* to access the domain name managment and advertising accounts or FTP account.The only reason that ronin wanted FTP account was to change the logo which if it really came down to it, it would take me liek 5mins to write a php script that allowed him to upload it. And what do you care if the income is pathetic, have I ever asked anyone for a single penny? If i asked for donations or something, then yes maybe we should do something about getting more $, but since I dont host BZ for the money then it shouldnt matter to you how much we dont make. Yea its great that a smaller site sold for 50k or whatever you said the other day, but it doesnt matter to me, im here for the people and the models not for the $.

Wierd features in ads as in? we can blacklist domains if you want, just give me a list and it'll take me 2 seconds to do. Unfortunately I cannot disable sound since there is no "sound" option on adsense/adbrite.

Yes, indeed we have. And you always respond the same.

First, my friend, I do have need to access all three. All three of these are vital access points to the website, and since many areas of the website vary in quality from pathetic (advertising) to mediocre (the forum scripts), it is my duty as an administrator, and as the founder of this site, to improve it until it is the best it can be. To do this, I need access to all of these accounts. There is absolutely no good reason whatsoever why my admin duties should be done by proxy through you (especially since it was I who made you an Admin, not the other way round), when you could at any time, restore my access to the FTP, Advertising, and Domain Name accounts.

And besides, whether I need it or not is irrelevant. As an Administrator of this website, it's my right, and the right of every other Admin. You are not in any way superior to Ronin or to OriginalSin or to Me: we are all Admins, identical in rank. For you to hold accounts private from other Admins would be as absurd as for me to restrict your posting rights or suspend you for a few days.

All of the Administrators: Me, You, OriginalSin, RoninGrave, etc... all of us are absolutely equal, and should have perfectly consistent power and access to all accounts. You know this, -- yet you refuse to grant access, acting as if you were the owner of the website, although you were one of the last Administrators to be appointed: several months after Bellazon.com opened. That's not a problem, but your stubborn refusal to grant equal access to all admins (not just me -- RoninGrave, and others), leads me to highly suspect your motives.

Would you like to hold a vote on whether the account access should be available to all Administrators? This should be unnecessary considering intuition would tell you that it makes no sense to restrict account access to someone who was an Admin long before you were, but I'm certainly willing to vote.

Oh, by the way: you say you aren't in this for the money. I don't doubt you, but out of curiosity, how much are you making per day? I'd be interested in knowing. That's partially why I'd like other admins to have access to the Advertising accounts.

My point is, why the hell *don't* you want to give the account information to Ronin, me, OriginalSin...? Is it that you don't trust us? Is it that you fear us? If any of those are true, then one of us shouldn't be administrator. Any website admin should be 100% competent and 100% trustworthy. Are we?

Yes, indeed we have. And you always respond the same.

First, my friend, I do have need to access all three. All three of these are vital access points to the website, and since many areas of the website vary in quality from pathetic (advertising) to mediocre (the forum scripts), it is my duty as an administrator, and as the founder of this site, to improve it until it is the best it can be. To do this, I need access to all of these accounts. There is absolutely no good reason whatsoever why my admin duties should be done by proxy through you (especially since it was I who made you an Admin, not the other way round), when you could at any time, restore my access to the FTP, Advertising, and Domain Name accounts.

And besides, whether I need it or not is irrelevant. As an Administrator of this website, it's my right, and the right of every other Admin. You are not in any way superior to Ronin or to Me, we are all Admins, identical in rank. For you to hold accounts private from other Admins would be as absurd as for me to restrict your posting rights.

All of the Administrators: Me, You, OriginalSin, RoninGrave, etc... all of us are absolutely equal, and should have perfectly consistent power and access to all accounts. You know this, -- yet you refuse to grant access, acting as if you were the owner of the website, although you were one of the last Administrators to be appointed: several months after Bellazon.com opened. That's not a problem, but your stubborn refusal to grant equal access to all admins (not just me -- RoninGrave, and others), leads me to highly suspect your motives.

Would you like to hold a vote on whether the account access should be available to all Administrators? This should be unnecessary considering intuition would tell you that it makes no sense to restrict account access to someone who was an Admin long before you were, but I'm certainly willing to vote.

Oh, by the way: you say you aren't in this for the money. I don't doubt you, but out of curiosity, how much are you making per day? I'd be interested in knowing. That's partially why I'd like other admins to have access to the Advertising accounts.

My point is, why the hell *don't* you want to give the account information to Ronin, me, OriginalSin...? Is it that you don't trust us? Is it that you fear us? If any of those are true, then one of us shouldn't be administrator. Any website admin should be 100% competent and 100% trustworthy. Are we?

No need to quote my whole post, OriginalSin, that was kinda pointless . But getting to the point:

I really didn't want to get involved in this but I feel the need to point out (since you're taking such a duty-bound stance here) that it was your duty as founder of the site to remain on board and not disappear from the face of the internet for 2+ years while we were all left to maintain the site in your absence.

I find it very telling that none of the other admins ever asked James for these privileges. And I did not have the feeling that anyone on our staff or among our regular members was dissatisfied with the way James handled the administration of this forum. This feeling of disappointment seems to only exist with you, Solo.

Not sure exactly what you're referring to, but if you're attempting to bring Neo into this, then let me be clear: my summary of the story was largely accurate, and the fundamental point remains. I have very little liking for the deed of firing the very guy who appointed you: firing someone who founded the web-home you live and post in just isn't right. No matter what the practical reason.

Okay, so that means that being the founder excuses you from any and all accountability? To use your chairman analogy, if a board of directors feels their chairman is hurting the company, his ass is gone. There are numerous instances in corporate history where founders have been kicked out of their own companies for the greater benefit of all involved parties.

I do wonder if this feeling of frustration is not more linked to the Neo situation than it is to the general feeling of dissatisfaction you mentioned in your post. I find it odd you use every opportunity you get to bring up this subject, after it has been discussed and re-discussed on here ad nauseum.

But let me ask you a question, Solo. Do you believe that only your opinion matters in assessing both the current value of BZ (both emotionally and financially) and what path it should follow in the future? Because I thought that:

All of the Administrators: Me, You, OriginalSin, RoninGrave, etc... all of us are absolutely equal,

So shouldn't they all have an equal say in this matter as well? We could easily settle this nonsense. Staff vote to decide if people are satisfied with the way James is running the forum. Either admins-only or include the mods as well, I don't really care either way. My question is, are you willing to follow the will of the majority, or will you only be content if things go your way? In that case the above statement is only true in matters in which the rest of the admins agree with you.

Oh, and one last thing. I see you reproached OS a lack of gratitude towards Neo because he appointed her to the staff. Where is your gratitude vis-a-vis James, who kept your forum alive for two whole years after you left it? Or does that not warrant any gratitude at all?

But anyway, why can't we all just get along?