Member Management

We need to do something about Kate Upton's thread. The amount of bullshit, trolling, woman comparison, fighting, disparaging remarks, snippy comments about her and members is getting out of hand.

The three who seem to be the biggest contributors of issues. dreamss, cherrybomb & saviorofcamelot

Speaking of CherryBomb. She's went on the super offensive the other day and PM'd Pheno who was on skype with me at the time. Whitney read me the entire PM (rant) from CherryBomb which was verbatim to what LMS had said to Pheno months ago. (Pheno's going to try and find the pm LMS sent)

I've spoken to a other members all of whom agree that dreamss/Cherrybomb have a very highly possibility of being LMS/Lu based on convos they've had with them, typing style, interests, sentence structure, and the fact that they seem to live each other's ass. 8 times out of 10 if Cherry is in a thread, then within 10 seconds Dreamss follows.

And I still say it's a little odd that dreamss IP shows him from off the coast of Nambia... and by off the coast I mean in the middle of the ocean.

My gut tells me those two are hiding behind IP proxy which you can download for free, or pay 5-10 dollars a month and appear to be from anywhere on earth with as many ip's as you want.

Alright something's up in a major way guys and I'm telling you my gut is screaming either LMS and or LU.

I just got this random PM today from a new member

I decided to look at the IP and guess where it comes from?

Update: Apparently track is Dreamss sister/brother?

So excited that you call your "brother" sis? O.O

Here's Dreamss ip

If this is Dreamss sister, shouldn't they share an IP if they're sharing the same pc? I've said it before and I'll say it again I happen to believe is either LMS and or LU hidding behind a proxy.

I'm thinking Dreamss started his proxy, got his "static" ip, logged onto BZ then created the new account, as a result the isp recycled the ip Dreamss was on at the time to accommodate the other account...

One more interesting note: They're on the same pc right?, then why did I catch Track and Dreamss on at the same time for about two minutes today under two totally different IP's.

If it looks fishy and they have just a few posts, we should probably ban just them . If anyone thinks that's too rash, I understand though .

Tanks for the Infos, Pretty!

We could confront dreamss first with the accusations like, why the IP-Addresse in the middle of the ocean, why are you two online at the same time, when sharing one PC?

If the answer doesn't sound convincing, ban the lot ...

udinpetot is that kapiten/ orca78 guy again, I guess? I approved a post in Jennifer Anniston but refused to approve a post in Jennifer Nicole Lee, as long as the picture are on imgchili - see related post in Board Administration.

I sent a PM to track:

Sent Today, 01:53 PM

It has come to the attention of the staff that you and Dreamss share an IP. We haven't given permission for you to be posting under this account, but rest assured we are seeking the approval of the admins and will get back to you asap. Till then can you please refrain from posting under this account. Failure to do so will result in posting privileges being revoked.

Another thing that is troubling to the staff is that while you claim to be using the same PC as your brother, we've got you under two different ip's and on at the same time (if only for a minute or so before you either went offline or went hidden)

Last issue that has been brought to my attention is that your ip is showing you in the middle of the ocean.

Can you please address these issues with me and I'll be getting back to you soon about what the staff wishes to do.

We'll see what happens.

I got a couple of replies back:

Sent Today, 02:40 PM

lol we are not in the middle of the ocean. We are in Africa. My bother also uses his phone to visit BZ, that might explain the two IPs. I was going to school in Europe... returned home just a few weeks ago. My bro told me about BZ and I created an account...he still doesn't approve very much of me being a member, although he is warming up to the idea.. He owns the computer I use, since I don't have my own laptop yet, I use his, but only when he's around because I don't know his password.

I think the reason why we are online on the same time is I don't use the same browser as my brother. When we connect to the internet it automatically show us as being on online at BZ when we open our browsers because we are always signed in. My brother however got the approval of another Admins for us both to be using the same account. Contact him if u have to.

I hope I don't have to wait for a long while. Thanks for replying

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Sent Today, 02:47 PM

another reason why there might be two IPs at the same time is I could be using the computer while my brother is using his phone, I don't know if this make

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Sent Today, 03:17 PM

i mean my bro got an approval for us to use the same computer, not account...sorry for the endless replies.

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lol that's how the way browser work but okay. I'm sorry it's your call guys, apparently one of the admins gave them permission?

I trust don't either one of them and I think it's a huge BS story.

Good job, Pretty!

Though it might be the way she explains it, I highly doubt it ... wow, she must have really thought about an explaination ...

So, I had a chat with cherrybomb recently, I have the strong impression it's LMS, though I can't prove it, of course. She's very friendly alright, but something about the way she writes ... well, let's keep her monitored ...

I've also had the same impression. Whitney (Pheno) is 99% sure it's her based on the private conversation they had where Cherrybomb wrote verbatim something LMS has written months earlier.

Track/Dreams I'm also convinced are LMS are or Sweet Lu. The longer we allow these guys to stay on BZ unchecked the longer they "get one over us" and the more accounts they'll make. LMS/LU have been banned many times from different fashion forums and they always get around the ban... why would think they wouldn't come back to BZ?

I honestly feel like my a hands are tied as staff. I work very differently then you guys, and if I had it my way I'd run on gut and ban the shit out of the three. But we need "evidence" even though it's harder then hell to gather.

Free proxy's are everywhere and if people are using them how do we get evidence when they can be anyone, anytime, anywhere?

Answer is we can't.

There has to be point when gut is good enough for a conviction but sadly it seems like the majority of the staff want to go by the Scooby Doo method and find "clues" when in reality there isn't clues unless the proxy user slips up badly.

Go with your gut guys... Till Joe and Pinky chime in there's nothing we can do.

We need to do something about Kate Upton's thread. The amount of bullshit, trolling, woman comparison, fighting, disparaging remarks, snippy comments about her and members is getting out of hand.

The three who seem to be the biggest contributors of issues. dreamss, cherrybomb & saviorofcamelot

Speaking of CherryBomb. She's went on the super offensive the other day and PM'd Pheno who was on skype with me at the time. Whitney read me the entire PM (rant) from CherryBomb which was verbatim to what LMS had said to Pheno months ago. (Pheno's going to try and find the pm LMS sent)

I've spoken to a other members all of whom agree that dreamss/Cherrybomb have a very highly possibility of being LMS/Lu based on convos they've had with them, typing style, interests, sentence structure, and the fact that they seem to live each other's ass. 8 times out of 10 if Cherry is in a thread, then within 10 seconds Dreamss follows.

And I still say it's a little odd that dreamss IP shows him from off the coast of Nambia... and by off the coast I mean in the middle of the ocean.

My gut tells me those two are hiding behind IP proxy which you can download for free, or pay 5-10 dollars a month and appear to be from anywhere on earth with as many ip's as you want.

Cherrybomb PM’ed me a few weeks ago expressing her dissatisfaction with the staff (she probably PM’ed most of us). She felt we are bias when it comes to the celebs/models we like and dislike. She has observed that when it comes to the celebs and models we like, we are extra sensitive to the negative criticisms, while with the ones we dislike we let things slide.

Her main concerns were in the Kate Upton thread regarding Prettyphile. She said something about posts being deleted or edited, snippy tone and cursing a lot. I did not feel it was right for me to get involved since it is between you two, and you are both grown adults capable of resolving your differences. I told her to try resolving this with you in a calm polite manner off the board or via PM. She said she did try to PM you but you never responded.

As for dreamss, he has quite a negative record with trolling and having multiple accounts on other forums. He rarely contributes anything significant on here. Most of his post are baiting. With that said, I think we should consider banning him.

I've also had the same impression. Whitney (Pheno) is 99% sure it's her based on the private conversation they had where Cherrybomb wrote verbatim something LMS has written months earlier.

Track/Dreams I'm also convinced are LMS are or Sweet Lu. The longer we allow these guys to stay on BZ unchecked the longer they "get one over us" and the more accounts they'll make. LMS/LU have been banned many times from different fashion forums and they always get around the ban... why would think they wouldn't come back to BZ?

I honestly feel like my a hands are tied as staff. I work very differently then you guys, and if I had it my way I'd run on gut and ban the shit out of the three. But we need "evidence" even though it's harder then hell to gather.

Free proxy's are everywhere and if people are using them how do we get evidence when they can be anyone, anytime, anywhere?

Answer is we can't.

There has to be point when gut is good enough for a conviction but sadly it seems like the majority of the staff want to go by the Scooby Doo method and find "clues" when in reality there isn't clues unless the proxy user slips up badly.

Go with your gut guys... Till Joe and Pinky chime in there's nothing we can do.

I think with track and dreamss we have enough to ban them: baiting, trolling and multiple accounts.

As for whether or not LMS and Lu are still on the forum, of course they are! I highly doubt it is that easy to get rid of them---if ever. If they were smart they would “behave” themselves and try not to blow their covers. Knowing them and their lack of ability to keep themselves in check I doubt it would be that difficult to nab them again.

On a slightly different note, it doesn’t matter if we have “evidence” or not b/c the behaviors and violations will speak for themselves. With that said, I am not sure are Cherrybomb, LMS and Lu the same person but it doesn’t really matter. She seems like an outspoken person who knows the rules pretty well. Eventually she will say or do something out of line to get herself banned.

I said and I quote "If you don't like Kate, then get the fuck of out of the thread... it's just that simple, no one is asking you to come here and ruin it for all" and she got all huffy because that's being "rude and swearing"... No that's not candy coating it, sorry if you don't like it, and I've responded back to her several times only to hear the same BS over and over.

And as for the thread I deleted... she got into with another member who asked me to remove the posts that both of them had made or it was going to turn into an all out flame war. So I did so and CherryBomb didn't think that his/her post should of been deleted (go figure). I deleted them because of the amount of snarky disparaging remarks she left in would of caused issues.

Update: I contacted Cherrybomb several times and we've had a nice talk. All is peaceful in the land of Prettyphile lol

By any chance could we add Eisenhower to our lunatic fringe 'watch' list? He's a curious fellow with a seemingly equal desire to offend and be offended. I almost find it sad that his posts are confined to just Sara Sampaio's thread, grade-a insanity like that deserves a wider audience.

That's it, he's out of the will. I mean it this time! :persuazn:

i'm filing this complaint against you michael. i don't honestly give a damn what happens next, i just hope justice is restored. i hereby request for my account to be canceled as i can't very well figure out how to do so myself because of this website's poor design and layout. this place is rubbish and authoritarian so i wish not to be around anymore. i do not embrace idolatry. you may remain here in peace and wallow in your own stupidity for the rest of your life. how i laughed at all of you

How to we disable a person's posting privileges? Einsenhower is totally out of line and if he wants to go, we should show him to the door. (Not sure how though), the only thing I can do is give a warning

^ I thought I fixed it so mods can remove posting privileges and suspend

Anyways, when you are on the Warn page select the Reason (if you don't select a reason, it won't let you remove posting privileges). Go to the bottom of page under Punishment click on Change. There you should have a selection of putting a member on Mod Watch, remove posting ability, or suspension. I wouldn't worry about the point removal for now. If you want something to be indefinite leave the box(es) to "0" days.

Could one of tjhe Mods test it out on Einsenhower to make sure it work for them?

It's now giving me the option to moderate him hun. Thanks for fixing it! Michael it's your call on what you want to do with him. He's starting a fight with you and ignoring both our requests to stop the attitude. Whatever you do I'll back ya.

^Thanks Pretty.

Provided we're all in agreement that we have enough to ban him, I'd quite happily do it now. He's brought nothing but abuse and aggravation to the forum thus far and I can't see him changing his paranoid delusional ways anytime soon.