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Appleauto is at it again
: http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?&app=core&module=reports&do=show_report&rid=2149
I gave her another warning and suspended her account until we decide how to proceed.

I think perm mod watch...if he doesn't stop or breaks another rule then ban

^ She's already on Mod Watch ![]()

^Oh so they were already on modwatch before they were suspended? Hmm well maybe tell them just one more strike and they are banned?

^ Yeah, when I suspended her she was already on Mod Watch.
I will tell her one more strike she is banned ![]()

^They've been given so many chances I think its a good call

I felt for Appleauto a bit when the Barbara Palvin thread was at its worst, although the interactions I had with her at the time suggest that she's unlikely to listen to reason anytime soon. It's a regrettable situation, but I think we're pretty close to being out of options. ![]()

Banning member Alex_Vienna (poster in Barbara P's thread) for creating another account yesterday. Same name, same IP, just missing the underscore. They had 5 warning points and had previously been on permanent modque for abusive behavior in Barbara's thread, I guess he figured he would create another account so he wasn't on que.

^ Yeah and he keeps on reporting stuff as "fuck" ![]()
I will ban all his IPs later.

PM from appleauto
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Hello,
I just got back from vacation Saturday night and saw this today....Hmmmm
How long will my posts continue to "be screened by a staff member prior to them appearing on the forum" ???
If this method is a long term (a week) arrangement or even one that takes more than a couple of days then please let me know immediately so that I can permanently deactivate/delete the account....
There are so many other people who do the same thing ... who bait and bait and bait....hotlink images but their accounts are never suspended like this and what one person may call baiting is considered constructive criticism by others...plus the last time I added the gif was because another person( Frenchkiki) baited me by posting an image that was insulting that I had to respond....doesn't her post warrant warning points too for baiting or are "friends" of Bellazon moderators excluded ?????
Most people here agreed that BP 's Elle Sweden cover+ editorial was horrible...Frenchkiki was one of few if not the only one who thought it was amazing....
In fact I was checking my inbox today when I saw a message sent to me by a Hungarian journalist, who in a couple of weeks is scheduled to interview Barbara Palvin .....naturally I have omitted the rest of the message because it was a private one.....
interview with barbara palvin
Sent 22 June 2015 - 06:59 PM
Hi!
I'm a Hungarian journalist, and in a couple of weeks I'll be interviewing Barbara Palvin. It's going to be a 45 minutes long interview, so I'll have a chance to ask her about a wide range of topics. I work as the film columnist at the biggest Hungarian news portal, but the interview won't be exlusively about her movie career (ie. her four seconds in Hercules) and it certainly won't be about her favorite lip gloss. I just found the Barbara Palvin thread on Bellazon a couple of hours ago, and I see that you are the most knowledgeable and opinionated member there, I'm enjoying your posts very much. So I thought I ask you if there are any questions you would like to ask her.
I came today to post 2 new recent videos that have not been posted here before plus some info about her schedule in Tokyo,Japan so that if anyone wanted to meet her they could but I am not going to post it just so that it could be reviewed before everybody else can see it...People like Elfstone are so incredibly rude to models like Sara Sampaio...he bashes her on every VS models thread... people are openly getting sick of this anti-Sara attitude... he was even awfully rude to Barbara in BOTH Taylor and Frida threads when they were promoting RosaCha in Brazil...he even once told me something lke..."Go kill yourself" which is completely unacceptable on a model forum...Don't believe me ...you can ask Prettyphile....I am sure she will remember but nobody issued him any warning points at any time...never ever placed him under these Bellazon rules...Why the favouritism.....at least be fair.....why is hotlinking a big issue BUT bullying someone by saying to go kill yourself is not...I am not some dumb, naive sensitive tween girl who takes these kinds of silly threats seriously ...I am a doctor but I have read of young girls who have taken drastic measures.....
'Can you kill yourself already?' The vile online messages from internet trolls 'that led girl, 16, to hang herself'
..............................................................
Often members here at Bellazon when their accounts are suspended just open a new account under a new name but.... if you are a fairly intelligent person then you know their writing styles...their model likes and dislikes.....I know at least 7 people who do this....flit from one account to another ....one a regular on BP's thread has opened multiple accounts...but I am not going to do that...it is not worth the hassle....
I won't be posting under these new guidelines.....let me know how long it will continue and if it is longer than a few days then please advice me on how to delete my account....
Thank You....

AA nailed it (sadly), this is a problem I've mentioned before; what one person see's as constructive criticism, others see it as bashing. What one staff thinks is okay to be posted, another doesn't. There are many times I've gotten a report and went to the thread to see what the fuss was about and I thought to myself "what's the big deal, nothing wrong was said", and then another staff comes in and just removes the "problem".
BZ is on a giant politically correct parade lately where everyone has to love/like what every model does, and if you have a difference of opinion then you're the enemy and are damn near crucified for it. This isn't a fan-site, this is a forum were people are allowed to express their opinions both good and bad, fan or not a fan, and I think we need to address this to BZ members, maybe they'll stop hitting the report button over every little thing lol
I didn't like AA's hot-linking and I believe till she learns to not hotlink she she be kept on mod watch, but over all Apple's posts were generally fine and within her right to express her like or dislike of something.
As for Elfstone, I pm'd him when he told her to die and told him he can't talk like that to other members like that, and since it was his first big slip up I let him go with a verbal warning and he hasn't done it again.
I don't know what to do to fix this
Maybe we need to allow people a little more freedom of speech? Loosen the noose and allow people to speak their mind within reasons (obviously no... She's an ugly fat cunt who looks like a whore..... that's not okay), or I dunno what to tell you.

Valid point made, seemingly some members have stuff that gets looked over,because they are popular here on BZ or just a majority of us see a certain humor in what they said. But it isn't always funny to some people, and it is offensive. MissLimaVzla, Frenchkiki and some others come to mind. I personally like them and get their humor but they sometimes seemingly step on quite a few toes, and will respond with vulgar language etc. When we know if it were another member like AA we wouldn't tollerate it.
I'm not quite sure how I feel. Should we be more strict and begin to enforce more of these rules on some of the more popular members on here who seemingly get away with it more often? Or should we be more loose with the rules and not punish people like AA all the time. I don't know. I think I'm leaning more towards being a little more strict, but then again I also don't want this place to be like The Fashion Spot.
Also while Elfstone hasn't told another person to kill themselves, they still like to stir up shit by going into different model threads, asking questions like "why aren't they a VS angel? Why don't they do this? Or that? Shes definitely not better than her" or whatever.
I don't know what to do to fix this
Maybe we need to allow people a little more freedom of speech? Loosen the noose and allow people to speak their mind within reasons (obviously no... She's an ugly fat cunt who looks like a whore..... that's not okay), or I dunno what to tell you.

It comes down to a question of whether or not we think we can count on our membership to settle differences in a mature and amicable fashion, without degenerating too far into off-topicness and nastiness. Based on the things I see on my travels around the forum, there are only a select few who I'd trust to be able to do that. The rest, we’d pretty much have to babysit. You're always going to have people at odds, and some go so far off at the deep end sometimes.

We have a few "opportunists" members who seeks out opportunities to troll while using other members as scapegoats. Schemer and elfstone comes to mind. "So and so started it...I am just responding to what so and so said!"
Just a lack of willingness and maturity to take responsibility for one's actions & behaviors. I think the internet anonymity culture encourages this.
I agree with Kat, "seemingly some members have stuff that gets looked over because they are popular here on BZ or just a majority of us see a certain humor in what they said." It doesn't create an equal playing field for all members. Similar to what Kat said, there's been times things have crossed into the uncalled for, offensive and vulgar territory. Again, it is one of those things in which it was not what was said but how it was said. People are welcome to express their opinions and their feelings but it is unnecessary to be vindictive, nasty and douchey. However it does seem to be challenge for some members ![]()
I don't think it is a matter of strictness but the mindfulness of being fair and reasonable
Although we are a forum and not a fan site there is an underlying assumption fans do gather here to find commonality. However that doesn't mean all opinions must be positive. Leo is an example---Kat I know you are a Leo fan so please don't take this personally
How sensitive some Leo fans are is totally ridiculous!!! In their eyes he is perfect and can do no wrong. When in reality he, like most people, does things that sets himself up to be poked fun of
I just got a PM report about a comment in Camila Morrone thread about Leo that I personally didn't think was problematic (I actually found it funny) however it upset someone ![]()
Again we circle back to the question of what do we do going forward? ![]()

I don't think it is a matter of strictness but the mindfulness of being fair and reasonable
Although we are a forum and not a fan site there is an underlying assumption fans do gather here to find commonality. However that doesn't mean all opinions must be positive. Leo is an example---Kat I know you are a Leo fan so please don't take this personally
How sensitive some Leo fans are is totally ridiculous!!! In their eyes he is perfect and can do no wrong. When in reality he, like most people, does things that sets himself up to be poked fun of
I just got a PM report about a comment in Camila Morrone thread about Leo that I personally didn't think was problematic (I actually found it funny) however it upset someone
LOL I don't take it personally
Some Leo fans (like barbara fans or whomever) like to constantly either post about every negative aspect, or get SUPER buthurt over ANY negative aspect.
I can bet who reported that Leo comment in camila's thread ![]()
Again we circle back to the question of what do we do going forward?
I think we have a good amount of strictness/rules as to what people can and can't say, I just think we need to work on applying more of these rules to regular/popular members, even if we tend to agree with what they are saying.

Banned member Berenq for continuing to troll Adriana Lima's thread and the members that post there. A member reported them sending private messages to them taunting them about Adriana, etc.

I think that's a good call. Berenq was on thin ice anyway and won't be missed, he's brought nothing but abuse and aggravation to the forum since he first got here.

I got this PM, not sure what you guys wanna do. If she wanted to be unbanned then why the hell did she wait 2 years to see about coming back?
MissPadilla (IP: 88.7.154.243 )
Sent Today, 10:27 AM

^ The member had 5 known accounts (CandicesCrown, Goddess Adriana, Goddess Adriana Lima, GoddessAdriana.com, and Candice's Crown) with at least 2 shared IP addresses. When inquired about why so many accounts he/she gave a combo explanation of forgotting username AND password
It was a shady situation ![]()

I asked her "friend" why it took her a year and a half to contact us about the issue:
She told me about it today and told me that didn't know how to get reach the admins for let them know.