Vaginismus

Russ I don't feel someone choosing to have sex before marriage stupid, I simply said you shouldn't lump those who chose not to in the bull shit category, in the end it all comes down to CHOICE, so please in the future qoute me correctly

I don't remember quoting you....

apparently not enough XD

i joke.

so, it's mean that she's not shy because if she was complexed by her body (something who could create a vaginismus) she could refuse to receive oral sex.

when i was kid i made "vaginal" kinesitherapy. i'm born with many troubles of hips/sex and my vagina/urinary bladder wasn't enough "strong" so i made kinesitherapy. i was obligated to open and close my sex, make a vaginal musculation.

i think maybe it could help her to "relax" her sex and be more "flexible"...

when she has her periodes, does she use tampons ?

she has try several times to use a tampon but she just can't it wont go thru.

so, yes, it's really more physic than mental. she definitively should try the kinesitherapy.

At the very least we have made this topic a bit more interesting.

and my reply was for both of you.

Let's face it, you got mad cause she totally took you to town on your "sex before marriage is bs" line and you wanted to take a couple shots instead of jsut daying "that came out wrong, let me fix it", sine you did go bacvk and fix it. But I understand, male pride and all.

you mean your smileys and insults ? such interesting arguments XD

and Russellb is not so wrong.

yes everyone his choices, that's true... but if we are honest, this kind of choices are often lead by education than a personal wish... and for this kind of people, divorce is often a drama.

you spend months (maybe years) until your marriage the penis in the right hand because you can't have sex with your lover and after you do the same because if you respect your culture, you can't divorce.

because you stay virgin until the wedding does it mean the marriage is happier ou better ? of course i don't talk about the first months where it's always wonderful and blablabla... but after 5, 15, 25 years or more... maybe i'm wrong but i don't think and think it's just frustrating and maybe hypocrite for the second part.

by the way, this kind of spouses, usually,don't live together because of the temptation... so they can discover big surprises and understand, even if they were in love that they aren't compatible...

virginity is more a symbol than a real link and i'm not sure it can really save a relationship.

geez thank i'll let her know about the kinesitherapy...

so, yes, it's really more physic than mental. she definitively should try the kinesitherapy.

At the very least we have made this topic a bit more interesting.

and my reply was for both of you.

Let's face it, you got mad cause she totally took you to town on your "sex before marriage is bs" line and you wanted to take a couple shots instead of jsut daying "that came out wrong, let me fix it", sine you did go bacvk and fix it. But I understand, male pride and all.

you mean your smileys and insults ? such interesting arguments XD

and Russellb is not so wrong.

yes everyone his choices, that's true... but if we are honest, this kind of choices are often lead by education than a personal wish... and for this kind of people, divorce is often a drama.

you spend months (maybe years) until your marriage the penis in the right hand because you can't have sex with your lover and after you do the same because if you respect your culture, you can't divorce.

because you stay virgin until the wedding does it mean the marriage is happier ou better ? of course i don't talk about the first months where it's always wonderful and blablabla... but after 5, 15, 25 years or more... maybe i'm wrong but i don't think and think it's just frustrating and maybe hypocrite for the second part.

by the way, this kind of spouses, usually,don't live together because of the temptation... so they can discover big surprises and understand, even if they were in love that they aren't compatible...

virginity is more a symbol than a real link and i'm not sure it can really save a relationship.

At least one person backed me up, thank you

you're welcome

of course when i talked about the "big surprises" i didn't talk only about the sexuality but the lifestyle too

by the way, .i've forgotten a very important point. virginity is one of the best weapons against the gay community.

when you know only 10 countries legalize the gay marriage, including 3 since 2010, you understand that there is a big problem and religion (with virginity) doesn't help...

finally, i think, but maybe i'm wrong... that virginity bring more frustration, pain, guilty feelings and fear (of course, it depends of your culturs and your spouse... but be killed because of a (non)virginity is pretty rude!) than happiness.

so of course, everyone his choices, but if i should describe the virginity with the words "positive" or "negative" i would choose "negative" without hesitation.