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*cough* @Joe > Average your input on the logos would be appreciated

On 10/03/2016 at 5:32 AM, Joe > Average said:

If one unofficial warning (with a response) isn't headed, they may be too agenda driven to be reached. Otherwise, that type of thing would maybe be welcome in the 'Everything about Barbara Palvin' thread?

Yeah, I told him that if he absolutely must post stuff like that, he should do so in the 'Anything' thread.

I'm open to being proved wrong, but I feel pretty sceptical as to whether he'll be the type to listen to reason. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

^ Pretty sure it is the same guy I banned 2x not too long ago for trolling in Bab's thread and multiple accounts  

On 10/03/2016 at 5:15 PM, PinkCouture said:

Pretty sure it is the same guy I banned 2x not too long ago for trolling in Bab's thread and multiple accounts  

If he steps out of line again, I wouldn't have any objections to showing him the door.

Also, I just had to do some further cleaning in Candice's topic after a set-to between JazzyJas and Candylicious/Laura over reposts. I've spoken to everyone involved, given JazzyJas a warning for her inappropriate use of language and sent Laura a reminder to report reposts to a member of staff in future.

2 hours ago, Michael* said:

Also, I just had to do some further cleaning in Candice's topic after a set-to between JazzyJas and Candylicious/Laura over reposts. I've spoken to everyone involved, given JazzyJas a warning for her inappropriate use of language and sent Laura a reminder to report reposts to a member of staff in future.

A lot of members have complained about Jazzy's reposts. Most of the stuff she reposts are not found within the last 3-5 pages but they obviously have been previously posted. She has been asked to be mindful when posting and if it is something that has a high chance of being posted before, regardless of when, she should refrain from posting.

As for Laura.....

So Clauds is majorly questioning if PB/Lost are the same person. 

I know we had all the same issues, but she brings up some good points.  This is part of our Skype convo

[10:54:26 AM] Claudia Delgado: Just say the original creator said no? Or that you are unable to contact him
 

[10:54:56 AM] Claudia Delgado: Also, are we sure they are not the same person?
[10:55:18 AM] Yvette: They have sent us "proof" they're different
[10:55:25 AM] Yvette: but my gut tells me they're the same

[10:55:38 AM] Claudia Delgado: Im sure they are the same
[10:56:01 AM] Yvette: I had them banned once before, but they freaked out and that's when they offered us proof via Instagram/facebook
[10:56:22 AM] Yvette: btw one of them looks like Donetella Versace lolol

[10:56:23 AM] Claudia Delgado: What kind of proof? Their accounts?
 

(At this point I send her to their facebook/instagram/twitter accounts)

[11:01:15 AM] Claudia Delgado: They are the same person
[11:01:16 AM] Yvette: https://www.instagram.com/lostdiadem/
[11:01:24 AM] Claudia Delgado: They dont even use real names
[11:01:51 AM] Yvette: Here they are
[11:01:52 AM] Yvette:

[11:04:01 AM] Claudia Delgado: One of the IG accounts has zero pictures
[11:04:18 AM] Yvette: they have pics, just pics of a dog? o.o

[11:04:28 AM] Claudia Delgado: But not of her
[11:04:35 AM] Claudia Delgado: Zero pictures of her
[11:04:51 AM] Claudia Delgado: I think Benny is real and Paola is her invented persona

[11:05:44 AM] Claudia Delgado: They are "married" on facebook
 

[11:06:30 AM] Claudia Delgado: They the same person im 100% sure
[11:06:33 AM] Claudia Delgado: It makes no sense
[11:06:43 AM] Claudia Delgado: So Paola is this bitch who spends most of her day in BZ
[11:06:53 AM] Claudia Delgado: But has zero time for social networks?

[11:07:11 AM] Yvette: -- Kat's response to having to possibly deal with them via skype is priceless
[11:07:11 AM] Yvette:  Posted 2 Feb 2015 · Report post

IDK If I want to personally skype with them though

[11:07:24 AM] Claudia Delgado: Lmao Kat
[11:07:41 AM] Claudia Delgado: Im telling you, they are the same person

[11:09:39 AM] Claudia Delgado: Look at Paola's followers
[11:09:45 AM] Yvette: Alright
 

[11:09:59 AM] Claudia Delgado: All fan accounts and of course Benny

[11:10:46 AM] Claudia Delgado: How does she not have pictures or herself
[11:10:58 AM] Claudia Delgado: And is only followed by fan accounts
[11:11:31 AM] Claudia Delgado: Her IG is public but she only has 17 followers
[11:11:44 AM] Claudia Delgado: That is not normal
[11:11:51 AM] Claudia Delgado: Im telling you, Paola does not exist

[11:19:11 AM] Yvette: Yes but how can we prove they're the same person. It always comes down to gut.
[11:19:23 AM] Yvette: If we're wrong we look like assholes
[11:19:41 AM] Yvette: Is it worth being possibly wrong, or do we go with our guts
[11:19:56 AM] Claudia Delgado: I say go with your gut

[11:20:18 AM] Claudia Delgado: You cant prove they are the same person but im sure they cant prove Paola is real
[11:20:26 AM] Claudia Delgado: Which is already breaking a rule so fuck it

[11:20:52 AM] Claudia Delgado: Just tell them to tape a video or take a picture holding a sign, something that shows their faces clearly
[11:21:00 AM] Yvette: Do who do you think the blonde girl really is?

[11:21:32 AM] Claudia Delgado: Some random person she met or maybe a girl she happens to know?
[11:22:30 AM] Yvette: She's had like 2 pics of them together, however they're supposed to be soulmates?  Wouldn't you have a lot more pics of your BFF 4 lyfe then just two?

[11:22:48 AM] Claudia Delgado: I know
[11:22:57 AM] Claudia Delgado: And they always post they are hanging out together

[11:23:48 AM] Yvette: And  yet from the looks of it, they never share an IP.
[11:24:16 AM] Yvette: Let me look at their ip's and see if we can see anything odd.
[11:24:23 AM] Claudia Delgado: Well idk, it's weird
[11:24:39 AM] Claudia Delgado: Maybe they are just two really weird people
[11:25:18 AM] Yvette: IP recently changed
[11:25:27 AM] Yvette: They've only got 4 uses of it on BZ
[11:25:39 AM] Yvette: lostdiadem  -  93.55.22.33
[11:26:45 AM] Yvette: PB - 62.211.168.191
[11:26:53 AM] Yvette: Only 16 uses on BZ
[11:26:54 AM] Yvette: wtf
[11:26:59 AM] Claudia Delgado: Wtf?
[11:27:20 AM] Yvette: They both just changed IP's about the same time?
[11:27:21 AM] Yvette: O.o

[11:27:33 AM] Claudia Delgado: Lolol
[11:27:58 AM] Claudia Delgado: So much shade

[11:42:38 AM] Claudia Delgado: To me is odd that they dont use their real names in Twitter/Instagram, that's usually teenager stuff and they are supposed to be adults and that Paola has no pictures of herself
[11:43:04 AM] Claudia Delgado: And her twtitter followers are all fan accounts
[11:45:09 AM] Claudia Delgado: Her IG followers are also all fan accounts
[11:45:10 AM] Claudia Delgado: And
[11:45:40 AM] Claudia Delgado: The only person to ever tag them on Instagram is each other, and the same pictures
[11:45:50 AM] Claudia Delgado: So they are bffs ans have ONE picture together

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[11:46:53 AM] Claudia Delgado: It makes no sense
[11:48:08 AM] Claudia Delgado: At Mayliss and I used to be super close and it was easy to prove because we had a shit lot of pictures together and we both user our social networks a lot plus we dont even live in the same country, but these two? Everything is shady and makes no sense

[11:48:40 AM] Claudia Delgado: Amd honestly the fact that they are "married" on facebook is just plain weird no grown up does that shit
 

My gut still says they're the same person, and I don't think that's going to change.

When I said that you and pheno were surely different people and that not disagreeing is not the same as always agreeing, a lot of people here said I was crazy. On the other hand, my gut said that LMS was a troll. I also thought Claus and asscrazysurf were the same person and they turned out to be separate people and even now enemies apparently. With these two, I'd have to investigate because I've never really read lostdiadem's posts aside from making pb's thread   . They do have different tastes in models, which is at least more effort than LMS made, but I don't know yet.

I dunno, it's just something that keeps being brought up by multiple people, and I don't know what to say about it.

I know what my gut says, but the situation says something different.

I don't know what to think It is so easy to troll and create personas online, but at the same time very difficult to prove   

Whatever the majority of you decide to do I will most likely support  

While I think all of it points towards them being the same person I don't think they are, thats just my gut feeling though. I do agree that it is weird that her supposed best friend and yet they don't have any pics together. But mayybe the girl doesn't want pics of herself posted on the net/doesn't really like posting pics of herself. Maybe she is embarrassed of her looks, etc. I remember she posted some pics of them to prove they are not the same and I remember thinking the girl was quite full of makeup  

I'm pretty torn on this one, I'm always the one to give them the benefit of the doubt though.  

Benefit of the doubt for me too, at least for the time being. It's remarkable how often initial gut feelings prove to be correct in the long run, but without any tangible evidence it just seems like too grey an area to make a definitive call one way or the other.

I guess if it is a crazy person, at least she seems to be following the other rules ATM unlike LMS, but if they are two people, it would be a shame to get it wrong. I could definitely see the possibility of not wanting pictures of yourself. I know that request my face to be blurred out on friend's social media pictures with me in them. That said, I'm on the side of just keeping an eye out until there is tangible evidence.

One way to prove they are not trolling is through video chat or a video recording of them together.However this is still not a 100% guarantee

One thing I noticed when searching through lostd's posts is that they disagree about a lot of models. This could either help their cause or be a sign that she's a diligent psychopath, one or the other.

Yeah, you can definitely get one of your friends to play the role of the other one in a chat. Still worth a shot. Another approach may be worth it assuming no one has let on to the fact that we are on to her/them. That is one of you who has pmed her/them for casual talk before start a casual pm chat with both of them. In said chat, ask several seemingly meaningless, casual conversation questions. After about 2-3 rounds, the group compares the tone and answers as well as any slip ups in character (i.e. you already asked me that ect.). That's what I call Phase # 2. Phase # 1 was obviously the ip thing and Phase #3 the snap chat.

I didn't mean to start anything, I just thought I'd bring up the conversation Clauds and I had yesterday. This isn't the first conversation I've had about PeroxideBlonde & Lost with others... many of whom brought the possibility of the two of them being the same person to me first..

With the way technology is advancing, it's becoming harder and harder to find the trolls. Eventually it'll come down to gut feelings as any evidence will be impossible to gather, or we have to wait forever till they screw up (which isn't likely).... or we deal with trolling and except it as part of the normal headaches of being on a forum.

I think we just got some proof that something is going on with PB/Lost

I checked how people were voting in the  vscomp... and I clicked on who voted (7) for Heidi... (1 voter), and yet two names show up  

Edit:

And I just checked to see if maybe it was something wrong with BZ... and nope. Syria voted (7) for Heidi and it's now showing 2 voters, yet there are 3 voters for Heidi

Something is very wrong here. Yesterday I logged into Pheno's account (she gave me permission) as she wasn't going to have time to vote, and even though I logged on under my IP (for her account), it still showed two votes, 1 for Pheno, and 1 for me.

Hmmm very suspect  

That is very odd. I wonder why although "both" of them voted but only one vote registered? Maybe same IP so one IP per vote?  Either way, if you want to ban "them" I will support you  

This is why I don't think we should delete warnings b/c it helps with record keeping and it is proof if any other infringements occur. 

I don't know what to think, all I know is something is very off about the two of them, and the fact that random people have questioned me about them only makes me more confused.  Maybe we should talk to them, though I'm sure they'll come up with some excuse and we're back at square one.