donbot

Here's the 'Conquerer Worm' story:

http://comicsnetwork.hqcyber.info/2011/06/...ol-5dark-horse/

There's a lot of hellboy stuff on this site if you're curious.

Oh yeah, I have the four Library Edition collections they've released so far - pretty amazing large hardback books with high quality prints inside. I have similar collections of the Sin City books too - the artwork looks so good in that format

I haven't had a chance to read all the Hellboy yet though. I've only read Seed of Destruction, Wake the Devil and about half of another one that escapes me. I've been meaning to get through them all.

Exactly

While we're on it, what do you think of the Hellboy movies, being an avid fan of the comics? If nothing else, they couldn't have done any better than Perlman in the role.

Yes, Perlman was just perfect!

I only saw bits and pieces of Hellboy 1 and it doesn't resemble the comic at all. I didn't really like it. The actual Mignola comics center mostly on hellboy alone.

I quite like the films, and actually thought they were a reasonable interpretation of the comics. They certainly took some liberties with some characters and relationships, but I think a lot of the spirit from the comic still carried through. I know Guillermo del Toro is a big fan of Mignola, and he wanted to stay respectful of the source material, but he's also a very creative and visionary guy, and he put a fair bit of himself into it while translating it to the new medium. Ignoring all that though, I think the films stand out as being quite interesting and unique amongst others in the genre, which I think is a credit to both Mignola and del Toro's work. You should give the first one another chance and watch it right through <_<

Oh yeah, I have the four Library Edition collections they've released so far - pretty amazing large hardback books with high quality prints inside. I have similar collections of the Sin City books too - the artwork looks so good in that format

I haven't had a chance to read all the Hellboy yet though. I've only read Seed of Destruction, Wake the Devil and about half of another one that escapes me. I've been meaning to get through them all.

I've read Hellboy over the years and the later stories and formats are a lot different:

Seed of Destruction, Wake the Devil ,The Chained Coffin and Others, The Right Hand of Doom ,Conqueror Worm, Strange Places, The Troll Witch and Others, Darkness Calls ,The Wild Hunt ,The Crooked Man and Others ,The Bride of Hell and Others, The Storm and the Fury

'The Wild Hunt' and 'The Storm and the Fury' are a lot different than SoD and Wake the Devil.

Starting from IIRC, The Chained Coffin and others he starts going into mini-adventures apart from the 'Rasputin & friends' main-line. 'Strange Places' and all the other 'mini-adventures' books are great as he starts drawing from epic myth. I find the mini-adventures more entertaining than the Rasputin arc. The best 'Nazi' story is 'the Conquerer Worm' which works as a stand-alone.

I quite like the films, and actually thought they were a reasonable interpretation of the comics. They certainly took some liberties with some characters and relationships, but I think a lot of the spirit from the comic still carried through. I know Guillermo del Toro is a big fan of Mignola, and he wanted to stay respectful of the source material, but he's also a very creative and visionary guy, and he put a fair bit of himself into it while translating it to the new medium. Ignoring all that though, I think the films stand out as being quite interesting and unique amongst others in the genre, which I think is a credit to both Mignola and del Toro's work. You should give the first one another chance and watch it right through <_<

I think Del Toro was good with the props.

The films resemble the 'Hellboy' Bureau of Supernatural affairs (or something) spin-offs and bits & pieces from the first two books but not so much from the rest of Mignola's work. The secondary characters- Liz and the other freaks are actually absent throughout most of the series!

I think I have the hellboy dvd somewhere. I was gifted it many years ago.

^Oh, interesting

Well I look forward to powering through the rest of the stories

Hey, donbot! Haven't spoken to you in ages!

How're you?

I personally believe that Rorsharch was just a self-seeking savage- little different than the criminals that he hunted down and killed. I feel the same way about the Aliens and humans in Avatar...I'll get to that later :-p

I enjoyed it too... although I didn´t fancy Malin at all <_< I didn´t believe a word she said or any punch she spreaded all the time she was on, I was thinking "What the hell is that special about this gilr??" so I rather concentrated on Rorschach - because he was freaking cool.

He had a very strong sense of what is "good" and what is "bad" and didn´t care about "laws" - he just found them useless and mostly unjust, so he took the law in his hands in my opinion, he was right.

And the actor was the best one in the whole movie. I felt like he WAS Rorschach - amazingly played.

Okay, well, I actually wanted to explain why I said that. (and hopefully w/o being a Negative Nancy, LOL)

When I judge a character, I judge them with the question: What would they be like in a different or even diametrically opposed environment? All major aspects of a personality. What would Rorschach be like in a volatile third world country or a dictatorship and in different circumstances?

In these scenarios, Rorschach would still be a total fanatic and possibly a criminal. He is intensely and cocksurely moral. He sees himself as some sort of infallible judge, jury, and executioner yet he does not have nary a grasp of his own cognitive limitations.

I believe that the trademark of a savage is dogma, persistent ignorance, and unshakable morality. Rorschach can't elevate his mind or change the subject because he never learns or develops. Like all fanatics, Rorschach is the most meticulously 'moral' of men: Like them, there is scarcely an act in his life that is not conditioned by unyielding prohibitions and obligations- most of which are certainly logically unintelligible. He is a lemming- stripped of his superlative physical/detection abilities he is a garden variety dullard. He believes firmly that right and wrong are immovable things, and they have an actual and unchangeable existence and that any challenge towards them is a crime against society. He doesn't grasp ideas in their naked nakedness or their context and history. Nor does he want to, because such a decision would shatter him as he's gone so far.

Rorscharch's emotional friends are those most fanatical of the Samurai, Schutzstaffel, Sturmabteilung men, communist Red thugs, NKVD, religious leaders, and other self-ordained 'masters and executioners' that blindly follow a delusional ideology.

He may, in particular circumstances, be a hero here in terms of results but his mind is not the road to take!

Hey, donbot! Haven't spoken to you in ages!

How're you?

I'm well Danni

How are you? Have a good Easter?

Wow, these reimagined Disney posters are unbelievably stunning

Where did you find these?

^Just came through in my RSS feeds today

There's a few more of them here:

http://dailycool.net/2012/04/10/minimalist...f-disney-films/

Wow, these reimagined Disney posters are unbelievably stunning

^Hah, that's awesome

That in turn reminds me of this new Feist video that's just come out. It's a montage of work from Irina Werning (from Argentina, no less ), in which she recreates old photographs using the original people, some years on. It's a really interesting concept, and the results are beautiful, funny and a little disturbing.

I see you're still taunting me with all these videos . I'm not sure what's going on, but I can get in and out of a thread in seconds, but it takes me more than ten minutes just to load a half minute video. I thought the shorter the video, the quicker its supposed to load. Anyway, I wondered it this girl was your type or not. At least it seemed like your type of presentation if nothing else .

I see you're still taunting me with all these videos . I'm not sure what's going on, but I can get in and out of a thread in seconds, but it takes me more than ten minutes just to load a half minute video. I thought the shorter the video, the quicker its supposed to load. Anyway, I wondered it this girl was your type or not. At least it seemed like your type of presentation if nothing else .

What's going on with that video problem anyway? I don't know how you can stand it. Is it your internet connection or your computer?

My type of presentation? You mean in lingerie?

She looks very pretty, but I'd like to see more to get a better sense of what she looks like. She's a bit on the skinny side, but I like the long torso. Do I get a name?

It was Kenshin :persuazn:

I don't know about that comic, but it's about samurai, ronin, bushido, and so forth, right?

Lone Wolf and Cub is set during the Edo period. An interesting fun fact is that historians estimate that some 8% of Japanese men were classified as 'samurai' during this period. Their social role was faintly reminiscent of the security arm of a police state.

Yeah, it´s about samurai one of the best I´ve ever read

I personally believe that Rorsharch was just a self-seeking savage- little different than the criminals that he hunted down and killed. I feel the same way about the Aliens and humans in Avatar...I'll get to that later :-p

I enjoyed it too... although I didn´t fancy Malin at all <_< I didn´t believe a word she said or any punch she spreaded all the time she was on, I was thinking "What the hell is that special about this gilr??" so I rather concentrated on Rorschach - because he was freaking cool.

He had a very strong sense of what is "good" and what is "bad" and didn´t care about "laws" - he just found them useless and mostly unjust, so he took the law in his hands in my opinion, he was right.

And the actor was the best one in the whole movie. I felt like he WAS Rorschach - amazingly played.

Okay, well, I actually wanted to explain why I said that. (and hopefully w/o being a Negative Nancy, LOL)

When I judge a character, I judge them with the question: What would they be like in a different or even diametrically opposed environment? All major aspects of a personality. What would Rorschach be like in a volatile third world country or a dictatorship and in different circumstances?

In these scenarios, Rorschach would still be a total fanatic and possibly a criminal. He is intensely and cocksurely moral. He sees himself as some sort of infallible judge, jury, and executioner yet he does not have nary a grasp of his own cognitive limitations.

I believe that the trademark of a savage is dogma, persistent ignorance, and unshakable morality. Rorschach can't elevate his mind or change the subject because he never learns or develops. Like all fanatics, Rorschach is the most meticulously 'moral' of men: Like them, there is scarcely an act in his life that is not conditioned by unyielding prohibitions and obligations- most of which are certainly logically unintelligible. He is a lemming- stripped of his superlative physical/detection abilities he is a garden variety dullard. He believes firmly that right and wrong are immovable things, and they have an actual and unchangeable existence and that any challenge towards them is a crime against society. He doesn't grasp ideas in their naked nakedness or their context and history. Nor does he want to, because such a decision would shatter him as he's gone so far.

Rorscharch's emotional friends are those most fanatical of the Samurai, Schutzstaffel, Sturmabteilung men, communist Red thugs, NKVD, religious leaders, and other self-ordained 'masters and executioners' that blindly follow a delusional ideology.

He may, in particular circumstances, be a hero here in terms of results but his mind is not the road to take!

You´ve read the whole comics, right?

Wow, these reimagined Disney posters are unbelievably stunning

These are so simply beautiful whow!!

Donny, do you have any "new model crush" now? btw Carola is freakin gorgeous.

^Hah, that's awesome

That in turn reminds me of this new Feist video that's just come out. It's a montage of work from Irina Werning (from Argentina, no less ), in which she recreates old photographs using the original people, some years on. It's a really interesting concept, and the results are beautiful, funny and a little disturbing.

I've always been fond of this piece of silliness as a music video. Can't really say why - it just appeals to my sense of absurdism:

So it turns out that "Looking for the chocolate bunny" isn't a euphemism for anal sex. I was deeply disappointed. How was your weekend?

You´ve read the whole comics, right?

Yes, I did :-D

Donny, do you have any "new model crush" now? btw Carola is freakin gorgeous.

Oh, not really.. the usual brigade. But yes, Carola's stocks have risen into my top 10 - she's amazing

I've still got a fixation with Tanya Dziahileva too, who I mentioned a few pages ago. She's kind of odd looking, but there's something so captivating about her.

What about you Jennka?