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I actually liked the Watchmen movie I loved Rorschach the most

speaking of comics...I remember that Okko and Lone Wolf and Cub were very good )

I'll revise my list :-D

My favorite comic stories as far as I can remember go something like this:

1. Watchmen, Hellboy

gap

2. 100 bullets, Lone Wolf and Cub

big gap

3. Okko, Scalped & Punisher Max

That great epic Lone Wolf and Cub (I remember that you liked the Samurai Bushido stuff ) =

'Manly tears were shed'....!

It was Kenshin :persuazn:

Actually, the opening of the movie + the Comediant funeral scene played in my head for a month until I got the whole soundtrack and now... those are my main songs in my mobile phone he really knows (Zack Snyder) how to connect the visual scene with great music.

'Watchmen' was really well made and pretty experimental from a technical standpoint. The film technique, sets, and the costumes had good design. I think that this is where the bulk of their efforts went. The director seemed to have liked the frames in the comic a good deal and thus really tried to break new ground with his film.

Also, from the comic: I think rorschach had the best scene. It was the one where he's being interrogated by a psychologist.

Rorschach is obviously inspired by radical right wing loners. They are often intensely moral and religious with almost no grasp of the outside world. Usually blue collar men, they are incapable of thinking in terms of numbers or structural environment or from the perspective of other people. These people tend to think in terms of laws/rules instead of 'principals in the spirit of the law'. They usually come from the countryside or small towns.

I was introduced to the comic after having heard about the movie and being impressed by the trailer, but I read it beforehand too. I really like the movie, but I take your point about the story feeling a little disjointed, not to mention coming off as a much more diluted version. I dare say there would have been a lot of things I'd have misunderstood, or just plain missed, if I hadn't read it beforehand

I still think it was a pretty decent effort though. Say what you want about Zack Snyder too, but he's sure got a lot of visual style, and knows how to crank up the 'pretty' (and just can't get enough super-slow-mo ).

I freaking love the opening of the movie - both the Comedian death scene, and the gorgeous title sequence (Y)

For people who didn't read the comic...well, Watchman was an opaque, random film. I personally felt that Zack strung together pieces of the comic together with a string. He had comic book derived visions from select 'watchmen' scenes and filmed them with insufficient regard towards harmonious storytelling. He didn't really translate watchmen from 'comic' to 'film'. The script was often over-wordy and not verbally efficient. They would mouth off comic book lines rather awkwardly.

The actors really, really looked the part- so much so that I felt that the director casted for looks rather than relevant acting ability. I think Malin was just a model of sorts, with little prior experience in theater or film. The actors would've been great in a photoshoot but outside of the Big Blue Man and Rorscharch I didn't buy the fact that they were comfortable in their skins as experienced superheroes.

Nevertheless, I enjoyed it! But I wouldn't have if I didn't read the comic! :-p

I enjoyed it too... although I didn´t fancy Malin at all <_< I didn´t believe a word she said or any punch she spreaded all the time she was on, I was thinking "What the hell is that special about this gilr??" so I rather concentrated on Rorschach - because he was freaking cool.

He had a very strong sense of what is "good" and what is "bad" and didn´t care about "laws" - he just found them useless and mostly unjust, so he took the law in his hands in my opinion, he was right.

And the actor was the best one in the whole movie. I felt like he WAS Rorschach - amazingly played.

I think I might actually be physically addicted to this song

I got caught up by this one recently:

although I don´t like the clip nor the guy... but the violin

Yeah, that's really not my kind of song

I respect the violin though

For people who didn't read the comic...well, Watchman was an opaque, random film. I personally felt that Zack strung together pieces of the comic together with a string. He had comic book derived visions from select 'watchmen' scenes and filmed them with insufficient regard towards harmonious storytelling. He didn't really translate watchmen from 'comic' to 'film'. The script was often over-wordy and not verbally efficient. They would mouth off comic book lines rather awkwardly.

The actors really, really looked the part- so much so that I felt that the director casted for looks rather than relevant acting ability. I think Malin was just a model of sorts, with little prior experience in theater or film. The actors would've been great in a photoshoot but outside of the Big Blue Man and Rorscharch I didn't buy the fact that they were comfortable in their skins as experienced superheroes.

Nevertheless, I enjoyed it! But I wouldn't have if I didn't read the comic! :-p

Yeah, it was much more from the 'Sin City' school of adaptations than most of the others that come along. That was a very literal translation from one medium to the other, both in the visuals and the script - but I think the main difference (aside from the fact that the stories were decidedly less complex) is that Sin City was unapologetically a comic book movie, so the dialogue and acting was very much in line with the style and 'other worldliness' of the comic. Watchmen tried to straddle the line a bit, which is a tricky thing.

I thought most of the actors did reasonably well though. I agree Malin wasn't particularly strong, Nite Owl was a bit hit-and-miss, but I thought Veidt and The Comedian were pretty solid, along with those others you mentioned. Speaking of Sin City though, Rodriguez absolutely nailed the casting in that - especially in the look department.

Yeah, it was much more from the 'Sin City' school of adaptations than most of the others that come along. That was a very literal translation from one medium to the other, both in the visuals and the script - but I think the main difference (aside from the fact that the stories were decidedly less complex) is that Sin City was unapologetically a comic book movie, so the dialogue and acting was very much in line with the style and 'other worldliness' of the comic. Watchmen tried to straddle the line a bit, which is a tricky thing.

I thought most of the actors did reasonably well though. I agree Malin wasn't particularly strong, Nite Owl was a bit hit-and-miss, but I thought Veidt and The Comedian were pretty solid, along with those others you mentioned. Speaking of Sin City though, Rodriguez absolutely nailed the casting in that - especially in the look department.

I was saying on Joe's 'TV Shows You've Seen Every Single Episode Of' (forgive me if I paraphrase) that Heroes was the perfect evocation of a comic book on television - and in those boundaries of a primetime 22 episode season it was; Sin City is, of course, a more literal example: you read those original graphic novels and it's a shot-for-shot remake of the panels! As an 'experiment' it's probably not far removed from Gus Van Sant's Psycho remake - just much, much, better!

+ Saw this, and thought of you...

(Via modelcandids - The Hunger Games premiere)

Let me know if this is a rick roll. I couldn't load it, but I think its the commercial I saw .

I was saying on Joe's 'TV Shows You've Seen Every Single Episode Of' (forgive me if I paraphrase) that Heroes was the perfect evocation of a comic book on television - and in those boundaries of a primetime 22 episode season it was; Sin City is, of course, a more literal example: you read those original graphic novels and it's a shot-for-shot remake of the panels! As an 'experiment' it's probably not far removed from Gus Van Sant's Psycho remake - just much, much, better!

Yeah, they really did do it well in the start. Too bad it descended quickly into a bit of a mess after season 1 though. It had moments where it really ramped up into a compelling show again, but it was just so up and down. They never did great payoffs either.. the end of both season 1 and season 4 were so anti-climactic :|

+ Saw this, and thought of you...

Wonderful

Let me know if this is a rick roll. I couldn't load it, but I think its the commercial I saw .

Yeah, it's legit

What are you guys going to do about those poison frogs ? I think someone may have brought them either as pets or to control the beetle population, one or the other. Now, their killing the native animals that eat them because they haven't been around them long enough to have developed a resistance to their poison and they're growing at a rate of over ten percent a year. They say Darwin is the only area that's not overrun with them because they have volunteers that go on a killing drive and freeze them to make fertilizer. Some even suggest poisoning them like they did the rabits, but I don't know. I'm still not sure why they didn't just eat or sell the rabits but then they probably would have just caused a plague somewhere else. I guess the morale fo the story is that people need to stop introducing foreign animals to other places .

What are you guys going to do about those poison frogs ? I think someone may have brought them either as pets or to control the beetle population, one or the other. Now, their killing the native animals that eat them because they haven't been around them long enough to have developed a resistance to their poison and they're growing at a rate of over ten percent a year. They say Darwin is the only area that's not overrun with them because they have volunteers that go on a killing drive and freeze them to make fertilizer. Some even suggest poisoning them like they did the rabits, but I don't know. I'm still not sure why they didn't just eat or sell the rabits but then they probably would have just caused a plague somewhere else. I guess the morale fo the story is that people need to stop introducing foreign animals to other places .

^Yeah, cane toads. They were introduced a long time ago to get rid of the sugar cane beetle, who were going mental on our crops.. now they're all over the north east of the country. They've only just started to encroach onto my side of the country in the last few years I think, but as you said there's a lot of effort being made to slow them down. I've never seen one in person, but they sure are ugly mofos.. not like those cute little poison dart frogs <_<

Reminds me of that Simpsons episode..

KENT

Our top story, the population of parasitic tree lizards has exploded, and local citizens couldn't be happier! It seems the rapacious reptiles have developed a taste for the common pigeon, also known as the 'feathered rat', or the 'gutter bird'. For the first time, citizens need not fear harassment by flocks of chattering disease-bags.

Later, Bart receives an award from Mayor Quimby outside the town hall. Several lizards slink past.

QUIMBY

For decimating our pigeon population, and making Springfield a less oppressive place to while away our worthless lives, I present you with this scented candle.

Skinner talks to Lisa.

SKINNER

Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.

LISA

But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?

SKINNER

No problem. We simply unleash wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

LISA

But aren't the snakes even worse?

SKINNER

Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

LISA

But then we're stuck with gorillas!

SKINNER

No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

I personally believe that Rorsharch was just a self-seeking savage- little different than the criminals that he hunted down and killed. I feel the same way about the Aliens and humans in Avatar...I'll get to that later :-p

I enjoyed it too... although I didn´t fancy Malin at all <_< I didn´t believe a word she said or any punch she spreaded all the time she was on, I was thinking "What the hell is that special about this gilr??" so I rather concentrated on Rorschach - because he was freaking cool.

He had a very strong sense of what is "good" and what is "bad" and didn´t care about "laws" - he just found them useless and mostly unjust, so he took the law in his hands in my opinion, he was right.

And the actor was the best one in the whole movie. I felt like he WAS Rorschach - amazingly played.

Malin was real pretty and at least looked the part. She reminded me of Mini Aden (who is also swedish) :-D

Yea, the guy who played Roscharch was appropriately creepy looking. He went on, IIRC, to play Freddy Kruger in a horror movie, LOL.

Yeah, it was much more from the 'Sin City' school of adaptations than most of the others that come along. That was a very literal translation from one medium to the other, both in the visuals and the script - but I think the main difference (aside from the fact that the stories were decidedly less complex) is that Sin City was unapologetically a comic book movie, so the dialogue and acting was very much in line with the style and 'other worldliness' of the comic. Watchmen tried to straddle the line a bit, which is a tricky thing.

I thought most of the actors did reasonably well though. I agree Malin wasn't particularly strong, Nite Owl was a bit hit-and-miss, but I thought Veidt and The Comedian were pretty solid, along with those others you mentioned. Speaking of Sin City though, Rodriguez absolutely nailed the casting in that - especially in the look department.

I remember that Sin City actually worked quite well and that '300' was actually very close to the comic (hence Zack's Watchmen job). But both of these stories were comparably simple and totally unprofound compared to 'Watchmen'. If you look at the Sin City panels...the whole comic seemed to be made for the big screen!

I haven't seen WM since its theater debut, but I remember Veidt being a bit 'off' (they hired a skinny man with an effeminate voice). The comedian definitely looked the part but they dropped some of his most character-critical scenes.

Oh, and Sin City was better!!!

I was saying on Joe's 'TV Shows You've Seen Every Single Episode Of' (forgive me if I paraphrase) that Heroes was the perfect evocation of a comic book on television - and in those boundaries of a primetime 22 episode season it was; Sin City is, of course, a more literal example: you read those original graphic novels and it's a shot-for-shot remake of the panels! As an 'experiment' it's probably not far removed from Gus Van Sant's Psycho remake - just much, much, better!

Ha, you wrote the same thing.

Frank Miller then made that awful 'Spirit' and he got booted out of a new career..

It was Kenshin :persuazn:

I don't know about that comic, but it's about samurai, ronin, bushido, and so forth, right?

Lone Wolf and Cub is set during the Edo period. An interesting fun fact is that historians estimate that some 8% of Japanese men were classified as 'samurai' during this period. Their social role was faintly reminiscent of the security arm of a police state.

I remember that Sin City actually worked quite well and that '300' was actually very close to the comic (hence Zack's Watchmen job). But both of these stories were comparably simple and totally unprofound compared to 'Watchmen'. If you look at the Sin City panels...the whole comic seemed to be made for the big screen!

Exactly

While we're on it, what do you think of the Hellboy movies, being an avid fan of the comics? If nothing else, they couldn't have done any better than Perlman in the role.

I was saying on Joe's 'TV Shows You've Seen Every Single Episode Of' (forgive me if I paraphrase) that Heroes was the perfect evocation of a comic book on television - and in those boundaries of a primetime 22 episode season it was; Sin City is, of course, a more literal example: you read those original graphic novels and it's a shot-for-shot remake of the panels! As an 'experiment' it's probably not far removed from Gus Van Sant's Psycho remake - just much, much, better!

Ha, you wrote the same thing.

From Jennka's thread :

^Yeah, she has a model sister - Poppy. It was more that the family were part of London "society" and were very much in the know, which kind of hinted that the sisters were only models because of being part of that scene... I'm on the very precipice of my knowledge of such matters though so I'll go no further!

As for Cara Delevingne the little princess, her background is rather interesting. Her last name was notable in fashion since the early 1900s. She has a pretty face, and distinctive at that. Her only problem is physical stature and form- she seems to be at a petite 5' 7'' or so.

Her sister, Poppy, is another member of the idle rich. She's famous for attending lots and lots of parties and doing the odd photoshoot. She reminds me of Sienna Miller.

Yeah, and The Spirit just came off as a tired retread. It provided nothing new, and the story was boring...

Exactly

While we're on it, what do you think of the Hellboy movies, being an avid fan of the comics? If nothing else, they couldn't have done any better than Perlman in the role.

Yes, Perlman was just perfect!

I only saw bits and pieces of Hellboy 1 and it doesn't resemble the comic at all. I didn't really like it. The actual Mignola comics center mostly on hellboy alone.

Here's the 'Conquerer Worm' story:

http://comicsnetwork.hqcyber.info/2011/06/...ol-5dark-horse/

There's a lot of hellboy stuff on this site if you're curious.

'Butcher' from the 'Boys' is very much like Hellboy. Hellboy is a stock character in the comic- a rough and simple do-gooder with unflagging common sense. He finds himself in an insane world...surrounded by horror and madness from european mythology. But he always sizes up the situation quickly with humor and endures no matter what...

^Are you going to make a habit of this then?!!

Yeah, and The Spirit just came off as a tired retread. It provided nothing new, and the story was boring...

I can't talk about Cara without talking about Poppy...she's still a 5'10'' blonde

:-D