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Well yeah, I agree with most of this, but when I say 'nutrition is supporting' I am talking from the perspective of a person who doesn't do drugs, seek out and gorge in bad food, or smoke. I assume that most people around me are not overweight. (most aren't, even though national statistics are saying something else). But I don't think that eating modern processed foods and non-organic products is dangerous enough, in the general case, to eliminate it from one's diet entirely.A lot of the health problems with children you mention are obviously caused by overeating bad food, and the blame rests on the parent, child, and producers.
The obesity, smoking and drugs is an example just because they're so obvious. There's are thousands of additives with varying levels of toxicity. They fall mostly into three main groups. One is toxic, another 'neutral' and another 'unknown.' Some have been scientifically proven to be harmful and others aren't old enough for use to even know what their effect will be, so they fall into the 'unknown' category. Common sense would dictate not taking the chance on such a thing, but we live such a fast paced life style that such things can be overlooked easily. I can guarantee that if most people actually saw some things made (and I have), knew what their chemical compositions were, original industrial uses (some were even originally creating for cleaning, not eating
) and what went into it, they wouldn't let it near them. I can guarantee even more that if most people knew the benefits of raw, living foods, they'd never go back. The biggest problem is the absence of living foods. It just so happens that highly processed foods are largely devoid of living nutrients. Yeah, the parents have the main responsibility, but unfortunately these things thrive because they're so cheap. That's why they were created in the first place. There's no regard for what the long-term effects are, but anything to make it cheaper so it will last longer sitting on a shelf and make more money. The thing about it human nature is its easier to dismiss the relevance of what we don't see. Its kindof like we can enjoy someone's food for years and then when we find out that they've been spitting in it, we don't want it anymore. Of course, there are many who haven't seen what I've seen who figure that something that was created in a chemistry lab forty years ago isn't old enough for the body to recognize, but we live such a fast paced life that clever marketing and propaganda can easily distract us from common sense. Aside from that, there's other things that are more neutral, that may not be bad for you, but aren't good for you either. Overall though, all the evidence in the world points to the fact that humans are built to have a diet where raw, living foods are the biggest food group. Enzymes and vitamins are killed by high temperatures (enzymes by well over 100 degrees), minerals are leached out by boiling water (its some highly nutritious water though
). Needless to say, something that's been sitting on a factory shelf for several months is long dead and has pretty much none of the above. Without living vitamins, your body has to leach them from your bones and organs. Without living enzymes, your body has to create its own, which slows the immune system. If as much information were available about this as in any other field of science, most of this would be common knowledge, but in the area of health science, the more ignorant people are, the more money can be made. The combination of the money I've saved, the money those who I've shown have saved is in the several thousands. That money's coming out of someone's pocket. On the other hand, more knowledge of say computer science would put money into someone's pocket, so the more people know on that end, the better for business.

You know, it's nice that Karlie's back doing fashion weeks. In top form, too.... It almost makes up for the fact that she chopped her hair off and allowed VS to take her away....
Also...there is an influx of new 'models of the moment' thanks to fashion weeks. Have you guys found anybody new?
can´t keep up with it - can you show me some of yours? ![]()

Not yet. I'm still waiting for fashion weeks to end so I can compile them more efficiently... ![]()
I did like Kendra, Kati, Edita, Lais and Karlie's new walks, though! And Katherine mcneil.
can´t keep up with it - can you show me some of yours?

There's a Feb. 14th promotional article in the Wall Street Journal about model Kati Nescher (one of my favs)....since that site is off-limits to non-suscribers, I'll post it here (I remember that Layla was interested...)

Courtesy of Kati Nescher
Nescher, age 13, near her country home in Russia.

Courtesy of Kati Nescher
THE RIGHT MOVES | Nescher, around age 7, with her mother and brother at ballet school.
Firstview
Modeling spr
ing looks from, left to right, Valentino, Dolce & Gabbana and Chanel.

Well, processed foods are usually more devoid of nutrients, but I found that taking a multi-vitamin helps even though it's synthetic. If I don't take a multivitamin, I get the occasional boil on my gums.
The biggest two things that I don't like about processed foods is 1. a lot of them don't taste very good 2. They can cause constipation due to their dryness. (esp. pasta, crackers, cookies and chips). Their low cost and ease of use can cause some people to stockpile too much food especially at retailers like Costco.
I am not convinced that they are highly 'dangerous' due to the lengthy inspection processes of the FDA, and the producer's sensitivity to legal ramifications. This usually filters out many of the worst new products. In any event, nobody should be eating only processed foods everyday...like a prisoner or a soldier in the field.
My grandfather, the pharmacist, is in his late 80s , goes out every day, and still smokes,...Still, I wouldn't pick up the habit.
The obesity, smoking and drugs is an example just because they're so obvious. There's are thousands of additives with varying levels of toxicity. .

I made a gallery of the iconic Ale. A...during her prime :-D What do you guys think of her after all these years?
She's was best at modeling 'sexy' even if she was not prettier than AnaBB, KK, or Gisele.
http://www.bellazon....40#entry3128596
----------Models.com top 50 'note'
-saskia de brauw
-suvi k
-julia nobis
-marie piovesan
-nadja bender
-edie campbell
-vanessa axente
-zuzanna bijoch
-anais pouliot
-codie young
-karlina caune
-rosie tapner
-juliane gubner
-valerija keleva
-mirte maas
-tatiana cotliar
-laura kampman
-kaatlin aas
-milou van groeson
-crystal renn

Not yet. I'm still waiting for fashion weeks to end so I can compile them more efficiently...
I did like Kendra, Kati, Edita, Lais and Karlie's new walks, though! And Katherine mcneil.
can´t keep up with it - can you show me some of yours?

You should travel to a polluted city for once. You'll come home at night and the insides of your nostrils are black with smog. Even the great New York- which stinks in places- is not as polluted as these cities in Asia. American cities, partially due to the lobbying of environmentalists, zoning regulations, and de-industrialization.., are probably in the middle as far as pollution is concerned.
Is it so serious in those places? I once read an article about Gisele where she was speaking about working in Tokio and how polluted it was, that she was sometimes unable to breath. I can´t even imagine it, Andy. I know I live in this small country that people know nothing about, and don´t give a shit about, but I´m so gratefull that our air is relatively clean (and while in the cottage and out of town, especially clean, not even speaking about Tatras) and that we have this strong amount of clear water to supply our cities. Even the biggest city, Bratislava, has its own supply of fresh water (actually, the best in the whole country) and lots of fresh air. These are things I am trully grateful for.
I was watching a documentary yesterday on the need of oil and its absolute necessity for our everyday life - and how thick our resources are beginning to be. And how wasteful we are with this rare thing. Especially American and Asian countries. Lots of words, I will write to you later when I have my thinking on it done. I´m still re-thinking all those informations and veryfing its sources. And lot of thoughts are running through my mind. Too much for now
Do you also feel better because the recession and financial crises have eased a bit since 2007-2010?
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Not really. Employers here still use the crisis thing to many questions and food and energies only get more expensive each year. No, it´s more of a science thing - I have seen and read many documents on how to help this world to make it a better place. Things that are not impossible. People that dedicated their lives to help the planet or other people. This is what keeps my faith going on. That there are things in this world that are moving to be better for both people and animals. If it´s possible in one area, it can be possible in others.
That's too bad for him, and good for you. Unhappiness, insecurity, and lack of perceived success can breed cynicism. :=p Either that, or he's playing office politics..

I made a gallery of the iconic Ale. A...during her prime :-D What do you guys think of her after all these years?
She's was best at modeling 'sexy' even if she was not prettier than AnaBB, KK, or Gisele.

Yes, Tokyo is quite polluted, so some people wear even face masks. Chinese cities, being the workshop of the world with the highest growth- are famous for being some of the most polluted of them all due to the vast silos of manufacturing/industrial plants situated outside of city limits and their vast armies of millions of poor laborers that live in cramped conditions. Taipei is also polluted and has some smog problems.
Is it so serious in those places? I once read an article about Gisele where she was speaking about working in Tokio and how polluted it was, that she was sometimes unable to breath. I can´t even imagine it, Andy. I know I live in this small country that people know nothing about, and don´t give a shit about, but I´m so gratefull that our air is relatively clean (and while in the cottage and out of town, especially clean, not even speaking about Tatras) and that we have this strong amount of clear water to supply our cities. Even the biggest city, Bratislava, has its own supply of fresh water (actually, the best in the whole country) and lots of fresh air. These are things I am trully grateful for.
Well, in the US we are having a domestic fossil fuels boom that has been developing for some time and will cover our needs along with imports for the foreseeable future. . If the middle class in India and China keep on expanding at their current rate, then they will start to purchase a lot of motor vehicles (China is already a bigger auto market than the US are far as vehicle numbers are concerned) and their homes/businesses will become greater consumers of energy and industrial raw materials. China is also developing a new navy and expanding their military power, as well, and trade in the Pacific will become a point of contention.
The US picture is still one of slow growth, but a slow growing and already affluent society with a diversified economy. It is difficult to forecast the US in the very long run (eg. 20, 30 years) as it's already a developed nation based on new innovation/technologies, knowledge, products, and services for growth. These growth phases are less straightforward and steady than, for instance, learning how to manufacture washing machines and cars for a global marketplace. But this growth will be necessary to deplete inflation-adjusted debt loads. Developing nations like China and India have it more straightforward- they have to follow the tried and tested methods of development and copy/rebalance as needed.
I was watching a documentary yesterday on the need of oil and its absolute necessity for our everyday life - and how thick our resources are beginning to be. And how wasteful we are with this rare thing. Especially American and Asian countries. Lots of words, I will write to you later when I have my thinking on it done. I´m still re-thinking all those informations and veryfing its sources. And lot of thoughts are running through my mind. Too much for nowNot really. Employers here still use the crisis thing to many questions and food and energies only get more expensive each year. No, it´s more of a science thing - I have seen and read many documents on how to help this world to make it a better place. Things that are not impossible. People that dedicated their lives to help the planet or other people. This is what keeps my faith going on. That there are things in this world that are moving to be better for both people and animals. If it´s possible in one area, it can be possible in others.
I don't know about the animals, but personally, I believe that more people on this earth will be living more meaningful lives as the years pass. They will be lifted out of poverty. I don't see a third world war coming anytime in this century.
Thank you for the galleries
I´ve been a fan of Ale for many years. I had these up and downs when I was not as much interested in her as before, but she always somehow managed to rise my affection to her and bring back the love. There is just something about her - she is so intense, so effortlesly sexy, so sensual. Plus, she looks very lovable and keeps on working her ass of.
And she reminds me of my sister

Yes, Tokyo is quite polluted, so some people wear even face masks. Chinese cities, being the workshop of the world with the highest growth- are famous for being some of the most polluted of them all due to the vast silos of manufacturing/industrial plants situated outside of city limits and their vast armies of millions of poor laborers that live in cramped conditions. Taipei is also polluted and has some smog problems.

What a sad picture - but there is always some price to pay for such incredibly fast growing economy. In that document, there were two men that caught my attention - one was trying to preserve the old alleys that were falling prey to the developers and roads (now I´m not sure if it was Tokyo or some other big city) and the other was a restaurants-owner that donated his own company for renting bicycles for incredibly low prices, just to make it attractive to people to use them rather than the cars. It was... very moving, to see their determination and willingness to change things for better. The best thing about it? It worked.Urban development in NYC was intentionally designed for vehicles and unnecessarily so. The design of NYC is not even economical- in fact there's huge waste of space and energy. it's designed to maximize use of motor vehicles (at the expense of public transit) due to 1950s-1960s power/economic development politics under Robert Moses. Gotham has its appeal but it's definitely not a 'green' city.
How do you feel about and average American being informed on all of this? I´d also like to ask about enviromental issues - how do you Americans feel about it (anyone can join in this discussion, guys!) - about the end of the oil age, about alternative sources of energy, etc. Are there many "green buildings projects" in your country?The Oil age isn't ending, it's in fact growing...Clean energy will supplement fossil fuels but not supplant it in the near future. There was a lot of green funding (eg. solar panels, electric cars, subsidies) in the NY tri-state area but it's fallen off along with political will. Expense combined with low yield is the typical culprit. It was mostly uneconomical anyway, and was mainly industrial policy for cleantech. Which isn't a bad thing, but many of these companies are struggling to be viable and make a profit. In many cases, they would be defunct if not for public support.
How do I feel about Americans and environmental issues? I think that Americans base their views on environmental issues on political affiliation and personal taste/interest. If you work for an oil company, for instance, the greens are the 'wasting tax dollars' and with the clean energy companies, their view is that they have potential.
I think that the entire Energy sector is over-emphasized in newspapers (in the US, they're only 11% of the S&P 500, for instance) and the space/public/political/investor attention that's devoted to clean energy, energy politics, energy companies, energy prices/markets, etc. are in excess of their weight in our economy/and the consumer.
Do you think so? I hope so. But there must be something done on the question of the immense population growth - or else it´s going to be unbearable. I think if we won´t do anything on birth control issue, there will be just more diseases, infections and retardation of some populations (not all, I´m sure of it). Though, I have read that our DNA (The modern Homo Sapiens) is still very young and has a - theoretical - long way to go, so who knows.I'm not worried about these things at all Jennka...There isn't really immense population growth anyway. There's immense economic growth, but it's reached a plateau as of late (The Chinese government is aiming for only 7.5% GDP growth, for instance). North America, Europe, and East Asia (China, Japan, etc.)- literally most of the world's economy- don't have rapidly growing populations but rather aging ones. Europe has the least population growth out of the three regions, of course.
As far as commodities go, new sources of commodities are discovered everyday and there's no reason IMHO to be pessimistic if one cares only about human needs.
They are. And she still can do a good one, if you ask me. Aren´t you following her recent carrier at all? May I show you some of her new work?![]()
Sure. I do visit Ale's thread from time to time, but she really doesn't look the same anymore after having her child. Her appearance became noticeably different after say 2009 or so.

For now, some Ale works I really like:

Interesting vid - I love Ale´s parts the most ![]()

Urban development in NYC was intentionally designed for vehicles and unnecessarily so. The design of NYC is not even economical- in fact there's huge waste of space and energy. it's designed to maximize use of motor vehicles (at the expense of public transit) due to 1950s-1960s power/economic development politics under Robert Moses. Gotham has its appeal but it's definitely not a 'green' city.
What kind of public transit is there in NYC?
The Oil age isn't ending, it's in fact growing...Clean energy will supplement fossil fuels but not supplant it in the near future. There was a lot of green funding (eg. solar panels, electric cars, subsidies) in the NY tri-state area but it's fallen off along with political will. Expense combined with low yield is the typical culprit. It was mostly uneconomical anyway, and was mainly industrial policy for cleantech. Which isn't a bad thing, but many of these companies are struggling to be viable and make a profit. In many cases, they would be defunct if not for public support.
How do I feel about Americans and environmental issues? I think that Americans base their views on environmental issues on political affiliation and personal taste/interest. If you work for an oil company, for instance, the greens are the 'wasting tax dollars' and with the clean energy companies, their view is that they have potential.
I think that the entire Energy sector is over-emphasized in newspapers (in the US, they're only 11% of the S&P 500, for instance) and the space/public/political/investor attention that's devoted to clean energy, energy politics, energy companies, energy prices/markets, etc. are in excess of their weight in our economy/and the consumer.
I think that clean energy does have potential, and I´m not even working for such company
In my opinion, we should think thoroughly about not only the future of ours, but also the future of the next generations, and oil is not gonna be here forever. It is ignorant to suppose so, but many people still do, it makes them feel comfortable in their own chair. They waste and spend so much, and suppose it´s a good thing because "it makes our economy spinning". It´s a typical consumer attitude to spend everything and save anything. Very narrow-minded.
I'm not worried about these things at all Jennka...There isn't really immense population growth anyway. There's immense economic growth, but it's reached a plateau as of late (The Chinese government is aiming for only 7.5% GDP growth, for instance). North America, Europe, and East Asia (China, Japan, etc.)- literally most of the world's economy- don't have rapidly growing populations but rather aging ones. Europe has the least population growth out of the three regions, of course.
As far as commodities go, new sources of commodities are discovered everyday and there's no reason IMHO to be pessimistic if one cares only about human needs.
But I do not care only about human needs and you know it. Where are these new sources of commodities discovered "every day"? Never heard about that, so I´d love to be informed
Europe is aging, that´s true. But countries like India are way over-populated, and that´s what bothers me. There are 7 billion people on this planet, and that number scares the hell our of me, to be frank. Just way, way too much.
Sure. I do visit Ale's thread from time to time, but she really doesn't look the same anymore after having her child. Her appearance became noticeably different after say 2009 or so.
She has aged, logically - but I think she still looks pretty hot

Public Service Announcement regarding junkyard:
http://www.bellazon....40#entry3138499
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Something else, but the press is paying extra attention to the relatively new CEO of that sinking ship,... Yahoo!. She looks more like an actress than a Fortune 500 CEO (usually prematurely aged white, indian, or east asian men age 55+..) and is probably the most attractive person to take the helm of a company that's larger than many city economies. Jung at Avon and Carly at H-P have nothing on her..



What kind of public transit is there in NYC?
Government-subsidized (that means that the private companies can't operate economically) rail of different types, buses, army of yellow cabs, an extensive subway system, helicopters (if you're rich enough..), ships, etc.
I think that clean energy does have potential, and I´m not even working for such company![]()
US Energy secretary Chu (one of Obama's clean energy cheerleaders) spent, IIRC, $36 billion and doubled the size of the wind & solar industry. Unfortunately, most of the growth in these industries are taxpayer funded and the markets are government regulated/enforced. It's not a great situation. I have observed alternate energy stocks and many are operating in the (red, or never turned a profit), moderate to weak financial position, and/or dependent on government support. They will continually be politically insecure unless the industries become more successful.
Chu was ousted early last month (he said he resigned, (lol)) due to the loss of over half a billion taxpayer dollars from the Solyndra bankruptcy.
If you're interested, look up some information about First Solar, GT Advanced Technologies, Power-one, Ormat Technologies, Advanced Energy Industries, and Suntech. These are some of the better enterprises. Even if their companies do not survive, the engineers and managers will move on to do other things.
I recognize the need to keep R&D efforts and more importantly, basic R&D in alternative energy going but a lot rests on 'hope' and the future is uncertain. This is where the government steps in where private venture capitalist investors and other investors choose to not create an investment base. The fact is, investors and consumers will not allocate capital into companies that do not provide cost-effective and value-added products & services.
But, at the same time, I also do not consider it appropriate for the government to 'enforce' green consumption on the lower upper class, middle class & poor (99.9%) as it would increase utilities and energy costs, burden businesses, and lower the standard of living. The top 0.1%- the ultrarich and the idle rich should be the ones that should subsidize these activities.
In my opinion, we should think thoroughly about not only the future of ours, but also the future of the next generations, and oil is not gonna be here forever. It is ignorant to suppose so, but many people still do, it makes them feel comfortable in their own chair. They waste and spend so much, and suppose it´s a good thing because "it makes our economy spinning". It´s a typical consumer attitude to spend everything and save anything. Very narrow-minded.But I do not care only about human needs and you know it. Where are these new sources of commodities discovered "every day"? Never heard about that, so I´d love to be informed
Europe is aging, that´s true. But countries like India are way over-populated, and that´s what bothers me. There are 7 billion people on this planet, and that number scares the hell our of me, to be frank. Just way, way too much.
I consider the USA to be under-populated, under-polluted, and very, very geographically fortunate to an unbelievable level. No other country in the world is this lucky (in this respect).
Yea, India has a fast growing population.
She has aged, logically - but I think she still looks pretty hot
I agree. It's just that Ale was so prolific during her peak years that whenever I see her recent photos, I think of her modeling circa 2005 and I simply just revisit that instead of looking at her recent stuff. She's done so much that I still find new things if I'm curious enough for it. ![]()
Thank you for the pictures, Jennka ![]()
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Update: Suntech, top 5 solar producer, is now in bankrupcy court. 3/20/13

Love your Hilary avi
Just getting back into her again (never stopped liking her, just other models came along, and so on and so forth
) Love how classic she looks in that Du Jour shoot ![]()