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I see what you mean and offcourse someone who just wants to talk is fine but when someone really ugly is thinking of other things besides talking, thats when the conversation endslol and no im sure your not ugly
But also guys who approach a girl in a bar/club im sure they wanna do more than just 'talk' :evil:
I disagree there. There are plenty of guys out there who go out to clubs without any desire to "play games".
And a lot of the time, they get shot down before they even get a word in.

I see what you mean and offcourse someone who just wants to talk is fine but when someone really ugly is thinking of other things besides talking, thats when the conversation endslol and no im sure your not ugly
But also guys who approach a girl in a bar/club im sure they wanna do more than just 'talk' :evil:
I disagree there. There are plenty of guys out there who go out to clubs without any desire to "play games".
And a lot of the time, they get shot down before they even get a word in.
Yes i agree there are some nice guys out there but it is difficult to know which ones want to talk or which ones just want to get jiggy and its sad they get shot down. But i find even if someone attractive approaches me, if they dont have a nice personality i wouldnt bother with them anyways so its not always about looks to me but i feel for me to be with a guy i have to be attracted to him physically as well as getting on with him emotionally. Looks is the first thing you see/notice.

I see what you mean and offcourse someone who just wants to talk is fine but when someone really ugly is thinking of other things besides talking, thats when the conversation endslol and no im sure your not ugly
But also guys who approach a girl in a bar/club im sure they wanna do more than just 'talk' :evil:
I disagree there. There are plenty of guys out there who go out to clubs without any desire to "play games".
And a lot of the time, they get shot down before they even get a word in.
Yes i agree there are some nice guys out there but it is difficult to know which ones want to talk or which ones just want to get jiggy and its sad they get shot down. But i find even if someone attractive approaches me, if they dont have a nice personality i wouldnt bother with them anyways so its not always about looks to me but i feel for me to be with a guy i have to be attracted to him physically as well as getting on with him emotionally. Looks is the first thing you see/notice.
Well that's the thing. I feel like women should get guys and actual fighting chance to prove that they're decent individuals. Of course it's hard to tell how genuine a person is when you've first met them. But it's impossible to know that kind of information at the very first instant.

And to answer your question, no, I would never be mean to a person who came over to talk to me just because I didn't find her physically attractive. What exactly has she done wrong?
You're right Herve! She's done nothing wrong.
Punish her parents!!! ![]()

I see what you mean and offcourse someone who just wants to talk is fine but when someone really ugly is thinking of other things besides talking, thats when the conversation endslol and no im sure your not ugly
But also guys who approach a girl in a bar/club im sure they wanna do more than just 'talk' :evil:
I disagree there. There are plenty of guys out there who go out to clubs without any desire to "play games".
And a lot of the time, they get shot down before they even get a word in.
Yes i agree there are some nice guys out there but it is difficult to know which ones want to talk or which ones just want to get jiggy and its sad they get shot down. But i find even if someone attractive approaches me, if they dont have a nice personality i wouldnt bother with them anyways so its not always about looks to me but i feel for me to be with a guy i have to be attracted to him physically as well as getting on with him emotionally. Looks is the first thing you see/notice.
Yes, but I'm not talking about being with a guy. I'm talking about someone trying to have a conversation with you.
It's not like I approached those women with cheesy pick-up lines, or said something offensive.

And to answer your question, no, I would never be mean to a person who came over to talk to me just because I didn't find her physically attractive. What exactly has she done wrong?You're right Herve! She's done nothing wrong.
Punish her parents!!!
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Anyway, my point was just that I didn't think I deserved to be treated like dirt just for trying to strike up a friendly conversation and nothing more.
But it won't be a problem in the future, since I have no intention of starting conversations with women I don't know.
I'll just leave that to the creeps and players.

awww poor Hervey pervey wervey
Leave it to the creeps like myself ![]()

awww poor Hervey pervey werveyLeave it to the creeps like myself
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I wasn't fishing for sympathy.
Just sharing an observation I've made in the past few years. And it's not just me, it frequently happens to my friends as well.
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Anyway, my point was just that I didn't think I deserved to be treated like dirt just for trying to strike up a friendly conversation and nothing more.
But it won't be a problem in the future, since I have no intention of starting conversations with women I don't know.
I'll just leave that to the creeps and players.
Thank you! ![]()
But I have to agree with you. Some women are really vicious.

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Anyway, my point was just that I didn't think I deserved to be treated like dirt just for trying to strike up a friendly conversation and nothing more.
But it won't be a problem in the future, since I have no intention of starting conversations with women I don't know.
I'll just leave that to the creeps and players.
Thank you!
But I have to agree with you. Some women are really vicious.
I would have no problem with them being vicious towards me or men in general if I came up to them with a cheesy pick-up line, or if I was giving of a "I want to talk you into bed" vibe. But that's not me. I go out to have fun with my friends AND if possible to meet some people that might become new friends.
I thought that was the whole point of going to clubs/bars. ![]()
The thing I don't understand is, if you absolutely don't want to approached by stranger, why go out to a public place? Just have a privated party at your house and invite only people you like. The thing about a social gathering is that you have no control over who is there. So not every person that approaches you might be to your liking, but does that mean you have to gut them verbally?

Some people just aren't there to meet new people I guess. I know whenever I go out it's just to be with friends and I don't expect anyone to rock up and talk to me ![]()

It's a club. Isn't it very likely you're going to meet new people? ![]()

Maybe it's different in Australia or something.
I don't get random urges to go up and talk to people I don't know. ![]()

Maybe it's different in Australia or something.
I don't get random urges to go up and talk to people I don't know.
I do sometimes, and I don't think there's anything really wrong with that. ![]()

I just think it's a bit weird to go up to someone and start chatting to them. What if you have nothing to talk about? I mean that has got to be awkward once you figure out that the person is not someone you want to talk to
I have talked to randoms before but I found that sometimes its hard to be yourself when people don't understand anything about you. For instance, I'll say something sarcastically and others will take it as an insult
It's an unpleasant feeling sitting there and conversing with someone but not being able to say things that come naturally to you ![]()
Anyway there was no point in all that... it was just me waffling on about nothing.

I just think it's a bit weird to go up to someone and start chatting to them. What if you have nothing to talk about? I mean that has got to be awkward once you figure out that the person is not someone you want to talk toI have talked to randoms before but I found that sometimes its hard to be yourself when people don't understand anything about you. For instance, I'll say something sarcastically and others will take it as an insult
It's an unpleasant feeling sitting there and conversing with someone but not being able to say things that come naturally to you
Anyway there was no point in all that... it was just me waffling on about nothing.
But wasn't everyone at some point of your life a stranger? (Well, minus your parents and siblings, perhaps).
Didn't you meet all of your friends by striking up conversations with them? I met almost all my uni friends because I would talk nonsense to just about everyone I met. (We had a group of eight or so guys who were very close in uni, and all of them knew each other through me)
My point is, even your best friend was once a total stranger, so what is so wrong with trying to have a conversation with strangers? I'm not saying you should spend your entire night out doing that, but I don't see the harm in it either. ![]()

You have a point
Maybe people just aren't interested in being your friend ![]()
Most of the time I meet people that I have something in common with that I might actually see again
They weren't complete stangers that I just walked up to. It's a bit hard to just go up to someone and say "hey, we're in the same spacio-temporal vacinity, let's chat!" or "What about Breakfast at Tiffany's? We both kinda like it!, well that's the one thing we got!" ![]()

You have a pointMaybe people just aren't interested in being your friend
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Yeah, that must be it... :|

hahaha you know I didn't mean it :trout:
and I edited my last post so read it ![]()
You have a pointMaybe people just aren't interested in being your friend
Most of the time I meet people that I have something in common with that I might actually see again
They weren't complete stangers that I just walked up to. It's a bit hard to just go up to someone and say "hey, we're in the same spacio-temporal vacinity, let's chat!" or "What about Breakfast at Tiffany's? We both kinda like it!, well that's the one thing we got!"
I'd just like to say that I, if no one else, appreciates the Deep Blue Something reference.