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^Yeah, I just noticed that!But you snubbed Baron again! :persuazn:
Seems to be happening a lot to me here lately. Well, so be it Danni (et al.)... 
And those whippet pictures are something else! I've read about that scenario on the set - but not seen it before. That said, you can hang around the greyhound track at the end of the night and see some old dogs ready for the knackers-yard looking like that anyway... <_<
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Don, I'll get back to you in full once I see Prometheus.
So I haven't 'really' seen Prometheus myself, but I know five things for certain:
1. It's largely a cluster of mysterious, seemingly (ridiculously) illogical ideas and contrived sequences with no reasonable explanation. (I believe that this is intentional, a way for the filmmaker to create a speculative fanbase)
2. It's essentially only half a movie since Ridley doesn't give answers to the cluster of questions.
3. Structure of the film ( besides the blatant audience manipulation) is fairly conventional.
4. Ridley Scott has stated in an interview that the :
Engineers are 'Dark (perhaps fallen?) Angels', and there is a 'higher power' that's controlling them (not revealed, of course, in Prometheus). Come to think of it, they look like Michelangelo's 'David' and Nazi Artist Becker's 'Super-human' fascist figures.
5. The Film is definitely constrained in scale and scope by its limited budget. Scott was only able to secure ~120 M USD for the production, which inflation-adjusted would figure to much less compared to previous summer blockbusters. If he had another 100 M, it would be a very different film. Scott requested a 250 M budget, but it was denied.
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I think I will see it, maybe tomorrow night. I rarely watch movies in their entirety or go to theaters..the last movies I saw in theaters were Inception (2010) and Avatar in (2009). The Dark Knight in (2008). In total, I probably only watch 2 or 3 new movies a year. I don't watch TV shows either. I saw only two TV shows (both miniseries) in the last ten years. Band of Brothers and The Pacific.
I just find the
Squid, Snake, Proto-Xeno, black goo
to be very messy plot devices...:
Did you see it in 3d? How was it?
Oh my goodness, I guessed right:
Arno Becker's sculpture, named "Prometheus":
http://upload.wikime...rPrometheus.jpg
Almost the same type of figure, except w/o hair.
Prometheus Bound, Scott Eaton
The Alien is essentially a bald, marble statue....
I saw this and thought of you. I´m speechless now.
Love it!
Did you ever have a toy like that?
Of course I did! Every kid should have a toy like that 
there is something legendary about teddy bears for sure. Few interesting facst from wiki:
The name Teddy Bear comes from former United States President Theodore Roosevelt, whose nickname was "Teddy". The name originated from an incident on a bear hunting trip in Mississippi in November 1902, to which Roosevelt was invited by Mississippi Governor Andrew H. Longino. There were several other hunters competing, and most of them had already killed an animal. A suite of Roosevelt's attendants, led by Holt Collier,[2] cornered, clubbed, and tied an American Black Bear to a willow tree after a long exhausting chase with hounds. They called Roosevelt to the site and suggested that he should shoot it. He refused to shoot the bear himself, deeming this unsportsmanlike, but instructed that the bear be killed to put it out of its misery,[3][4] and it became the topic of a political cartoon by Clifford Berryman in The Washington Post on November 16, 1902.[5] While the initial cartoon of an adult black bear lassoed by a handler and a disgusted Roosevelt had symbolic overtones, later issues of that and other Berryman cartoons made the bear smaller and cuter.[6]
Morris Michtom saw the drawing of Roosevelt and the bear cub and was inspired to create a new toy. He created a little stuffed bear cub and put it in his shop window with a sign that read "Teddy's bear," after sending a bear to Roosevelt and receiving permission to use his name. The toys were an immediate success and Michtom founded the Ideal Novelty and Toy Co.[4]
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By 1906 manufacturers other than Michtom and Steiff had joined in and the craze for "Roosevelt Bears" was such that ladies carried them everywhere, children were photographed with them, and Roosevelt used one as a mascot in his bid for re-election.[citation needed]
American educator Seymour Eaton wrote the children's book series The Roosevelt Bears,[9] while composer John Bratton wrote "The Teddy Bear Two Step" which, with the addition of Jimmy Kennedy's lyrics, became the song "The Teddy Bears' Picnic".
Early teddy bears were made to look like real bears, with extended snouts and beady eyes. Today's teddy bears tend to have larger eyes and foreheads and smaller noses, babylike features that make them more attractive to buyers because they enhance the toy's cuteness, and may even be pre-dressed.
Interesting, isn´t it? 
I already have that picture as my wallpaper 
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Why do you get all these FPSs on console? :|
There's been a lot of great things coming out of E3 this year. Aside from the Dead Space 3 announcement (), Watch Dogs, The Last of Us and First Beyond: Two Souls all look like they could be amazing. It's a pretty exciting time for gaming 
Can not wait for Bioshock Infinite and the Tomb Raider reboot too.
Don, I'll get back to you in full once I see Prometheus.
So I haven't 'really' seen Prometheus myself, but I know five things for certain:
Yeah, can't really argue with those. Interesting about the budget, but it's no excuse for points 1-3 
That picture is quite funny 
There's just one thing missing really - snake + man = ??? We don't ever really see what happened to Millburn after it lurched down his throat.. whether it just killed him or laid something else inside (and who knows what that would look like
). I could stomach the concept of the black goo and the worm/snake creature, but the zombies and squid thing just came completely out of left field and like you said made it a bit of a mess.
Interesting stuff about the sculptures!
I did indeed see it in 3d, and thought it was excellent. I think filmmakers are really getting the hang of how to use it properly - Avengers did it very well too.
And those whippet pictures are something else! I've read about that scenario on the set - but not seen it before. That said, you can hang around the greyhound track at the end of the night and see some old dogs ready for the knackers-yard looking like that anyway... <_<
It's even better in motion 
I saw this and thought of you. I
What I JUST bought online through a game outlet here
Total E3 Best Buy Preorder (All Games 10 dollars off): Luigi's Mansion 2 (3DS) Smash Bros (3DS) Dead Space 3 (Xbox) NCAA Football 13 (Xbox) Crysis 3 (Xbox) NHL 13 Collectors Edition (Xbox) Bioshock Infinite (Xbox) Taxes included: 369.52 Total Savings: $70
Why do you get all these FPSs on console? :|
There's been a lot of great things coming out of E3 this year. Aside from the Dead Space 3 announcement (
Can not wait for Bioshock Infinite and the Tomb Raider reboot too.
Ten dollars off? I do see your point though it would be better on PC but i like my room to play FPS' better cause then i can yell and scream and swear as much as i want and no-one cares as opposed to the computer room which is right beside the living room 
And late at night i can just throw on my turtle beaches and get the full experience when everyone is sleeping.
Xcom looks cools too, my buddy at work was telling me about it but for that i'm holding out for PC, and the other reason is my PC is almost already full for the harddrive and I need a new one <_<
PC games are generally that much cheaper anyway 
Fair enough if that's your setup though.. I just feel like like it's trying to play with boxing gloves on.
Xcom piqued my interest too, although I'm not really sure it's my kind of game. I'll check it out more closer to release date I think. Dishonoured is another game that I'm really excited for too.. looks like Deus Ex meets Bioshock And one of the few that's actually still on track for a 2012 release
There's just one thing missing really - snake + man = ??? We don't ever really see what happened to Millburn after it lurched down his throat.. whether it just killed him or laid something else inside (and who knows what that would look like
I think I'll see it sometime next week. Is there a difference b/w IMAX 3D and regular 3D? I might just catch it in normal, b/c my last experience with 3D (Avatar) gave me a headache!
I have no idea. I think it just killed and ate him. I thought that the squid/zombie situation was retarded! What was Scott thinking, lol? Did you see the post-credits proto-xeno? I saw it in the prometheus forum. It's another stupid scene. It pops out of the engineer's inert body. (infected by the squid)
My liking for 'Alien' stems from childhood. I was always a big fan of the whole mercantilist and Colonial Marines theme in Alien- So I liked the Aliens film and some of the outstanding Alien comics the most. I never saw Alien 3 and I found Alien 4 to be half-baked.
The Colonial Marines theme is a spoof on American conscripts, mercenaries, and volunteers that fought in the Vietnam war.
The merchantilist theme is a spoof on vertically integrated entities such as (new world exploration entity) Dutch East India company, Russia's Gazprom, Standard Oil, etc. that were essentially 'States within a State'. They had/have hundreds of thousands of employees and were de-facto states in themselves. Gazprom, for instance, is 10% of Russia's economy, has Putin's ear, an incredible array of productive assets, media & banking organizations, and their own armed security apparatus.
The comics do a great job in expanding the theme of 'Aliens'. Stories like:
- Galactic war: Humans vs. Xenomorph vs. the Xenomorph spreaders, the Predator species.
- Entire planets (valuable for raw materials or former human settlements) are seeded w/ Xenomorphs by Alien enemies, and the humanity tries to exterminate them with high technology and military operations.
- Arrogant 'corporation' teams up w/ Marines and try to study and 'control' the Xenomorph & overwhelm it with biotechnology
- Space-fairing humans in charge of colonial fleets become power-hungry and demented after long periods in space. They then lose their moral compass and become totally Nazi-like.
- And traditional 'survival' stories, etc.
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This series is great, definitely recommended.
I have no idea. I think it just killed and ate him. I thought that the squid/zombie situation was retarded! What was Scott thinking, lol? Did you see the post-credits proto-xeno? I saw it in the prometheus forum. It's another stupid scene. It pops out of the engineer's inert body. (infected by the squid)
You mean this guy?
That was part of the movie, not after the credits. I didn't mind the idea of something looking like that coming out of an engineer who'd been implanted.. although the design itself was a bit unspectacular and not very Giger-ish. The problems with it were
1. The aforementioned squid
2. That there was no gestation period
3. That it came out like that, with no 'chestburster' stage
Alien 3 was far from perfect, but I like the step back they took following the action and scale of Aliens, going back to the concept of a single alien against those who were untrained and unprepared. There was a bit of a stretch in credibility though, in the explanation of how the alien came to be. The story was that the alien queen laid an egg on the ship before Ripley blew it out of the airlock at the end of Aliens. This hatched a 'queen facehugger' which implanted Ripley with a queen embryo while she was in statis. There was also a second facehugger stowaway on the ship, which implanted a dog, giving birth to a new breed of xeno that wreaks havok during the movie. Ripley ends up sacrificing herself before/as her queen embryo bursts out - that's why they're trying to clone her (or rather, them both) in Resurrection.
Did any of the comics ever explore the pre-Alien goings on with the Space Jockey and all the rest of it? 
Thanks for explaining Alien 3 to me.
Oh, yeah, that 'Dolphin' Alien (LOL). The cam I had didn't include that scene, so I figured that it was post-credits. The Xenomorph is supposed to imprint some of the host DNA so that 'Dolphin' thing made no sense to me. If anything, it should have looked more like the Xeno baby in Alien. But then again, it was from a Squid...eh....
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This guy did a great job editing the SJ. Unfortunately, its movie presence was a letdown!
I've read a few Alien stories, and the one of the comics featured the Space jockey (as an elephant man) as a 'deus ex machina' plot device. He appears, saves the day, and then leaves the humans in wonder. The SJ can communicate telepathically, and is somewhat of a deity-ish Alien. There is no other information about them.
Just watching Aliens - and I've realised how James Cameron isn't that far behind Michael Bay when it comes to gung-ho histrionics and unintentionally irritating military types. 
I guess some of his films have been entertaining, but probably the only one I can say I like is The Terminator.
Oh, yeah, that 'Dolphin' Alien (LOL). The cam I had didn't include that scene, so I figured that it was post-credits. The Xenomorph is supposed to imprint some of the host DNA so that 'Dolphin' thing made no sense to me. If anything, it should have looked more like the Xeno baby in Alien. But then again, it was from a Squid...eh....
Well it seemed like they were going for a similar-but-different design to the xeno we all know and love, which you'd expect since our DNA matches that of the engineers (not sure if you saw that part). There were traces of it in the elongated head, limbs and fingers, lack of eyes, exoskeleton colour and weird double mouth thing. Notable lack of a tail though <_<
Just watching Aliens - and I've realised how James Cameron isn't that far behind Michael Bay when it comes to gung-ho histrionics and unintentionally irritating military types.
I guess some of his films have been entertaining, but probably the only one I can say I like is The Terminator.
Not even T2? 
You're probably right about Cameron, but I have an affection for all the Aliens characters - even the lifeless meathead ones. Maybe that's just nostalgia talking, from a time when I was too impressionable to know any better 
Ok guys, I´m seeing the Prometheus movie on Tuesday! 
I've heard the short version of that before
Did yours have a name? I don't think I ever gave mine one
Actually I do not remember I loved plushy animals, I had many of them, and I took care of each and every one (like, one day I played with these 5 and other day I played with different 5 so not one would be sad or neglected ) but I do not remember giving them names.
Which were you favorite toys donny?
Ok guys, I