General Discussion

I got a reply from MattLoveModels about his suspicions:

the "nouve" one started talking to me on msn like once a week. she always was a strange one. but when she first started to talk it was by pm. the other 3 did the exact same thing to me. im like a fricken target or something after the second one i knew they were all the same. they all talked the same way.

The way I understand it, all four of them approached him through PM and then subsequently started talking to him on MSN, where he noticed that they all talked the same way.

Doesn't prove much in itself again, I guess.

A search of this IP address now yields these results:

Two of the four people Matt originally suspected are no longer on there. Not sure what to make of this, since when I originally ran this IP, all four were on the list.

I think the IP search you generated produced results for who registered with that IP address. All four of them have definitely posted with the same IP address at some point. At least that's what it says in the admin panel

OK, so let's see here. Here's what I know for sure.

Melissa, Amarie, and fery have only used one IP address when posting, and it's the same one. The IP has also been used by BB_London and Nouve, but it's not the only one they've used. BB_London has used two. Both of them have also been used by Nouve.

Here are the results if any of that is confusing (which I imagine it may be ):

The question is...what do we do about this? :|

Thanks Nicole

Looking at that list, I'd say that it is very likely we are dealing with the same person here.

Just cross-reference the amount of different IP addresses with their join dates.

Nouve:

22 may 06 (Uses the four IP addresses not shared by the others in between the time he registers this account and the time he creates his second account)

BB_London:

18-February 07

(Now has two accounts and changes IP address one more time before creating his third account)

Amarie

28-April 07

(Since registering this account, his IP address hasn't changed, hence all his other accounts sharing just one IP address)

Melissa:

18-June 07

Fery:

23-June 07

are they doing anything wrong? I mean if they are a crazy person talking to themselves but aint hurting no one, I dont really see a problem with that. nways dunno do whtaever you gotta do. This is why i aint an admin/mod

We do have rules against trolling and multiple accounts, so "they" are doing something wrong. And they are being deceitful which would upset many members here.

^ Exactly.

There is no need to have more than one account, and when people DO have more than one account, I immediately have to wonder WHY? It's shady as hell. Particularly when they're using several at the same time :|

I'd like to have Taha's input on the matter when he has time

btw, Pink, you mentioned earlier that you had a feeling Amarie was a troll. Just curious as to what gave you that impression in the first place

It was the vibe she gave. Not sure how to explain it I have "sketch-dar" I guess one clue was she attracted TOO much attention to herself in a short period of time (she posted her picts and etc. either the day she joined or a few days after that.) She also said some stuff that didn't add up, and when asked about it she either ignored it or gave ambiguous answers.

Sorry my reasonings for why I suspect she could be a troll aren't very strong Like I said, I am good at sensing shadiness.

No problem. At least you're honest. And it's looking like you're probably right cause this is looking more and more suspicious.

I believe that the entire argument solely based on IP addresses is completely illogical because take for example the ip addresses that come up when my account is searched.....you get 53 search results....now i know i haven't used this site from 53 other computers running on 53 other ip addresses....one of the ip addresses that comes up for me resolves to 18 other users that registered with it....its all not as unique and you would think it was....

upon viewing the accounts that you guys mentioned better things to look at are trends in email addresses....if you look at "melissa's" email address it is "melisespino_1989@yahoo.es".....notice how it ends in an ES she also has another account "melissaespinoza_ohsi@yahoo" which goes with the email address "melissaespinoza_ohsi@yahoo.es"...notice the ES at the end again....also notice the 1989 at the end of the first email address...we all do it at some point and it usually represents our birth year.....notice how the account "fery" has the email address "fery1988@hotmail.com"....first off there is a 1988 in there and secondly it is now a hotmail account and it has no peculiar ending...just a simple .com ....separating it from the trend that melissa seems to follow in the first two accounts. the "BB_London" account is registered with the email address "bb_bateson@yahoo.co.uk" signifying a UK account....why go out of your way to create a UK account and not stick with the .ES?

i dunno....to me personally it feels like too much of a stretch to go through so much trouble as to register email accounts under different providers under different nationalities even just to create multiple accounts at bellazon.....ESPECIALLY since there has been no ban or any form of hindrance on our part to stop them from registering

anyways thats just my thoughts....think about it and let me know...if u guys are still uncomfortable we can confront

I think for someone to go through that much trouble as RG mentioned, this person must not be very emotionally or mentally stable. With that said, we cannot use"normal" people's logic to understand why they did what they did. And perhaps it is not important to understand the reasoning, but that they did break a rule.

As a compromise, what we could do is keep an eye on all five of them, and look for patterns of speech and behavior on this board, since we can't take Matt's word on this since we haven't seen the conversations ourselves. He's not a staff member and all these encounters he's talking about either occurred on MSN or PMs which doesn't help us much. If the person is as obvious as he's claiming she is, then the patterns will show up on the board. I do actually think they're the same people though. Something seems off. Like I know IPs are not 100% telling, but I don't know how to explain it but the way the IPs are matching up around the same time periods...is what has me suspicious. I can't be sure though. You're absolutely right about that Taha.

One thing I will say...if the person is anything like Miss Isabella...she would go through a lot of trouble to do something like this :|

Taha does have a point: if I check the IP address I originally registered with, I get seven different people!

I agree w/ OS.

Well, it would be wrong to ban them on the little proof we have now. So I think monitoring them closely is the only option at this point, yeah.

I just realized...I forgot to tell Andrea that her mod status was restored :|

so if anyone was possibly wondering why she hasn't bothered to sign on and visit staff area...

it's my fault XD

Big hello to the BZ Staff

It's not your fault, Nicole

Today is the day my internet speed is back to normal

I haven't been bothered to sign in lately coz I exceeded the 12GB download limit and my speed decreased dramatically :| but I'm back and ready for some mod work

*changes Iekeline Stange to Iekeliene Stange*

haha yay! welcome back Andrea!

Thanks Nicole

It's great to be back and have teh power

Welcome back Persy

yay persuazn