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^ That's b/c she has to be granted permission first. Hence why she needed to ask one us so we can all vote on it before we let her start thel thread

I will take care of it.

Hey guys, i just deleted 5 posts in the 'post pictures of yourself' forum, from a member named joupeunloff. all of them contained a link to rhosting.pl and had lots of other text written in polish. I did AVG's online link scanner on the address because i didn't want to risk clicking it myself. It turned out okay but i still think it's a spam account. Just a heads up

EDIT

you definitely need to ban him/her/it

I PMed him about it and deleted a bunch of posts. But I guess you're right, seems to be a fake profile just for spamming.

Baby just PM'ed me this:

hello, i'm sorry to disturb you but i'm 200 % sure someone is stalking me

http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?sho...3653&st=840

does there is a solution ? i honestly think this person is Cult Icon but maybe i can be wrong and it should be nice if it was possible to check this person ip.

it scared me.

thank you.

I read her posts in 3 Things To Make BZ Even Better and I am not clear what she is trying to express Perhaps one of you could better understand her posts.

As a general comment, we have mentioned before to members:

The internet is a quick, accessible and open medium. Once something is posted on the internet, there is no knowing who will see it or where it will end up. Regardless if you are posting on a forum, blog, website, Facebook, Twitter...whatever, please keep the point I made above in mind when posting online. Especially if the content of your post is personal, private or sensitive---take a moment to think before you post! Because once something is out there, IT IS OUT THERE. Retraction is not a guarantee.

EDIT: This is my response to Baby's PM:

Hello Baby,

Thanks for PMing me. No need to apologize. I am sorry you feel you are being stalked.

Could you explain again why you feel you are being stalk so I can further understand? Is there a particular reason you suspect it is Cult Icon? What would you like to achieve from a IP check?

Hang in there while we try to figure this out.

Baby's PM response :| This makes a little more sense...sorta.

What's do the rest of you think of this whole situation? How should we handle this?

well. this is a long story with him.

at first, it was in april we had some superficial arguments about a stupid suject. he sent me an email i never read, i even don't read the "extract", and that's true i misunderstood some stuff he said and i left the forum during two months because it really pissed me of

when i'm finally come back in the end of may-june, i posted stuff on a thread about movies. and he started to piss me off with a books list. i had the feeling it was just an excuse and do it to talk it me, try to make me change my opinion about him. i asked him to leave me alone, stop boring me but he never stopped and he said i absolutely wanted to see him stay with me, i was very interested by him even if i say the opposite. etc.

i'm on a forum to talk about the subjects who interest me, i'm not here to become close of 33000 members including the ones who absolutely don't interest me but he doesn't understand it...

i told him that he if i was interested by him, the base should be to read the mail he sent me and and this is something i never did. then he sent me another email (which is still unread, and i also never read the extract) and it was the next day after i wrote what i said about the email. i edited my last post and i said it was crazy to see him send me another email when A i told him i wasn't interested at all about him and i don't read with emails. then something like 2 hours later he reply to my edit and say ok this is the last time he sent me an email. so i started to be really shocked because maybe i'm wrong when there is no notification when you edit a post, so officially the last answer was the day before and he only could see it if he spend his time to visite a thread without new reply or stalk my posts. so i told him his behavior was crazy and then he said that's me who's crazy and i replied another time on the thread because i ABSOLUTELY wanna see him stay with him and i can't support what he told me in his email (where he pretend he said now he blocked me and he wasn't interested at all by me. i don't know if it's true because i never opened it). like a was near to be addict to him. so i've been obligated to make a screencap of my emailbox and show him the blue wallet near to his email to show him i never read his messages. and he pretended he blocked me and now wouldn't be able to read my posts on the forum... as i told him, if the person that you would block had never sent you an email you must go on his profil to block him and my last visitor was pennydreaddful and it was 3 or 4 days before. he pretends he has blocked me but i know this is wrong.

then he had stopped during few months

in september, still in the movie section i talked about bad movies and say i "hated" ridley scott's movies. and few hours later he had created a thread about it. why some people don't like ridley scott's movie. not very subtle isn't it ? so i know he did it because of me and expect i would reply to his thread and then we would start to talked together and get friends. he forgotten he pretended he blocked me. so still on the movies' thread where we had the quarrel and where someone asked what happened there i reply there was a guy who harassed him and now he continu and expect i finally go toward him and he's really creepy and i posted the american psychologist whitepages because he really need to see a doctor.

by the way i often post stuff in the art section but because this is art my stuff is not really successful, this is not victoria secret pictures... and i often follow my pictures views because i'm curious to known which artists people think interesting. and strangely circa july i noticed that there was someone strange who checked my stuff. like for example i will post 20 pictures and the 10 firsts pictures there is 0 views, the next 5 there are 3 views and the last 5 there is 0 views. so you understand this is strange because 3 different people won't watch exactly the 5 same pictures (particularly in same time). so i was like "ok, there is something a bit strange but not so much". just i didn't understood why watch 3 times the same pictures. and i'm pretty sure the person who make it also followed all my stuff, like shitty boring hip hop album or movies cover. thing that usually people never watch even me if i didn't felt obligated to post them to introduce a band or a movie. and she (he)'s the only person who check it and often watch it 2 or 3 days after. why, i don't know. always one person, always a couple of days later. but at this moment i never thought 'oh my god, i'm stalked"

and there are few weeks ago i created a thread about diane arbus because i have a huge collection of her work and i thought i should be cool to share it. i'm not the only one who enjoy her work and it could interest some people. of course as usually my thread is absolutely not a succes which is not a problem for me.

anyway, i'm someone who enjoy to classify my stuff, i don't like to make messy things and all my pictures had tumblr or other websites name, so i decided to classify on my computer and on bellazon. so i checked the "my controls" option and had decided to deleted my 4 first series (posts) to reuploaded them with another names. i don't know if you had already noticed it but when you reuploaded pictures in a post, the other is different and messy. instead to classify them like 1-2-3-4 etc you can have the first picture at the 4 position, the 8th picture at the second position etc. so when i reuploaded my stuff, it was still the same pictures but with a different classification (sens). few hours later, i decided to make the same with the next series of pictures and then i notice someone had checked the 4 or 5 series (i can't remember sorry) who cames from after the 4 series i changed. why ? i absolutely don't know. he just did it. i thought it was strange but i was ok maybe it's just hasard. so i decided to keep my stuff like this and don't change the name and spy. this person had saw something like 75% of the pictures from those 4 series and day by day (during 4 or 5 days), this person had see all the unviews pictures from those series until it get into a 100%. he's my only viewer so i can easily notice him... and 10 days later, so 14 after the creation of my thread i decided to change the name of pictures from the 5th or 6th series and i was like "ok, if someone stalk me something strange will happen" and then few hours later, in a thread without new reply since a couple of week, someone had watched all my pictures but not the 2 series i reuploaded few hourse before! why ? i don't know!!!

this story is absolutely crazy, i don't understand why this guy do it but the fact are just here. and i suppose it could be Cult Icon because of the arguments we had about the email he sent me. i know he check my stuff even when it supposed without new reply. why he makes it, i don't know. maybe a kind of obsession/fixation.

there are few days ago i wrote under my avatar a text where i say i'm stalked to see if something will get different. now this person had stopped to watch the stuf i post. and there are two days i posted a message on the favorite book thread and 10 minutes later cult icon had just posted a message where he pretended he had just noticed a old message from 2006 (particularly 10 minutes after my post in a thread without ne reply since days... particularly when we know he officially can't see my post...) . for me, in my opinion he tried to make me believe that the list he sent me hasn't a bad excuse, he make it with everyone and answer to someone 5 years later is somehing he makes all the times.

he had also reply to the thread where i talked about the stalker. he quotes sweet lu to pretend he can't read mine which is make him completely ridiculous and he tries to discredit me because i think he's scared to see someone discover what he makes.

if he's not guilty at first he shouldn't give a f*ck about it and would say "yes yes, give us the ip like this she could prove that she's really stalked" instead of try to convince people hat they shouldn't think i'm serious. and then he suggest that i could secretly visite his profil (because i love him so much...) and give him a 1 start because i hate the fact he rejects me. this is not what he said but this is the way i understand his sentence. he's so full of himself that he tries to convince people and maybe even himself that if i hate him, this is not because he harassed me and i think he's a boring person but because now he refuses to talk with me and i'm angry against him because he blocks me...

this guy make me vulgar and nasty and as i told me he really believe in his dreams.

his behavior is scaring and i'm sure he stalks me. he doesn't accept to be rejected and try to force me to talk with him and love him, and prove he's amazing and very interesting and i was wrong. this is very repulsive. more he makes it and more he disgust me. i don't think his behavior is normal.

well FML!

Hmmm, tricky to make an assessment without really having a decent grasp on the situation. I can't honestly say I've ever detected anything outwardly creepy or stalkerish about Cult Icon. I've seen him make a beeline for topics that Baby starts/regularly visits on more than one occasion. But it's a considerable jump from that to stalking. Has anyone on the staff experienced or seen this kind of thing before?

Well, I'm trying to calm it down a bit. Whether or not CultIcon is stalking Baby, the whole argument is a mess and needs to stop.

I can't see how to prove the stalking. CultIcon didn't do anything real offending from what I've seen and read. Baby might act a little oversensual ... I guess it's all some kind of misunderstanding on both sides.

BTW is it true you can't read the posts of a person you blocked? I never blocked anyone so I'm curious. But I don't want to block anyone either just out of curiosity

BTW is it true you can't read the posts of a person you blocked? I never blocked anyone so I'm curious. But I don't want to block anyone either just out of curiosity

That's what I always assumed but I've never actually tried to block anyone either.

I think we somehow managed to calm them down, I hope Baby and CultIcon will stay away from each other from now on. However, we should keep an eye on both of them, just in case it wasn't just overreaction on Baby's side ...

Got two Member requests:

What about the BZ Logo, there were numerous requests about it ... we could do a poll so the members could submit a pic and vote on the next girl ...?

And then this one:

Carmelita. i was intersted to know if it was possible to know

the person ip but apparently no. the thing who's stupid and really who be changed should be

the fact who could block someone not to avoid to read his messages but to avoid him to read our message.

could it be possible ?

I'm not sure, I will ask.

Sure just point me to whatever image you decide on and we can change it.

regarding the IP i didnt really understand, they want to not see the other persons messages in the forum? I though there was an option in their menu to do something like that by username, right?

PM from Nimzo

Hello Admin, in August 2008 you notified Max of an official warning:

Signature removed because it did not comply with Bellazon rules.

Bellazon is not a porn site---pornographic materials are not allowed. ~edited by PinkCouture

In 2012, Max continues to promote his porn yahoo!groups in his Bellazon profile.

In Personal Statement:

"Visit My Website" points to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FOCUSonFACES/

The visitor will get the warning: "You've reached an Age-Restricted Area of Yahoo! Groups" meaning Porn 18+.

In the "About Me" > "My Content", Max makes advertising for a Bellazon's competitor: Tumblr

duplicating exactly his Bellazon posts in Tumblr:

- Soft version: http://focusonfaces.tumblr.com

- Porn version: http://maxturbator.tumblr.com/

On December 31, 2010, Max added a link to his Tumblr account in his post.

His Bellazon avatar, Miley Cyrus, represents his current target of his porn photomontage without of course the agreement of the actress and singer.

Since it is the second time that Max did not comply with Bellazon rules, would you consider banning him from Bellazon, delete his posts and block his IP address (is it 86.216.70.108 Montanay Lyon-156-1-47-108.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr?) in order to avoid that he makes again porn photomontages with pictures he found in Bellazon?

Regards,

Nimzo

I checked out the tumblr account he posted on his profile page (http://focusonfaces.tumblr.com/). He has a cartoon sperm as his avatar but nothing blatantly pornographic. He does duplicate his BZ posts on his tumblr but I don't really see an issue with that. I also visited his Y! group (also linked on his profile page) and it was indeed an 18+, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's pornographic content---or does it? He does link to BZ in his Y! group.

However, I am sure the "maxturbator" tumblr account belongs to him. The same pictures he has posted here and on his "focusonfaces" account also appears in his "maxturbator"....except there's computer generated "jizz" all over the pictures.

So the question is what do you think we should do--warning, suspension, ban or a combo? Technically he didn't break the "no porn" rule (not directly at least). I know while I was away the "no advertising" rule was updated. I am not sure does the updated rule include the mentioning of [personal] sites in a post and in profile pages? If yes, then that's the only solid thing we can nab him on.

On a slightly different note, I have no clue how Nizmo figured out Max's IP info.

BTW is it true you can't read the posts of a person you blocked? I never blocked anyone so I'm curious. But I don't want to block anyone either just out of curiosity

That's what I always assumed but I've never actually tried to block anyone either.

btw here's what you see when you've blocked a person and you run across one of their posts.

You can still click on the link to see their post and yet keep them blocked.

I'm not sure what to make of this but Sweet Lu has been in contact with Cop lately as a means to try and justify why LMS didn't have multiple accounts, but in doing so has dropped a theory as to who does.Now I don't even know if any of this is true, I'm just passing on what I've received.

So here is Lu's theory on the fake profiles that have been on my page

Lu:I think some, not all though, of those pros that check you out are Dave's wife (iluvadrianalima) If you check his page you will see a couple of those pros checked him and also checked me, LMS, fashionmidel and others and the only common thread is we all left comments on his page.

Me:In all honesty LMS was one of the first people that came to mind because some of the fake profiles that she has made in the past were always showing up on my page. I don't hardly ever talk to Dave on his page anyways so I'm not worried about her.

Lu:Well the few she had have been banned and seeing the ones she had they weren't really used. Plus she doesn't really following anyone anymore on here.

Whoever some if these are I think they do it just to get a rise out of you. I wish we had access to those ip addresses.

So I ask her who Dave is, or is (iluvadrianalima) Dave's wife, (I seriously have no idea who these ppl are) and she sends me back this

That's Dave but his wife is in school in the day and works at night so I don't see her being the stalker type, she doesn't have time.

Now Lu is trying to blame Dave's wife who doesn't even have an account from what I understand.

And Lu never wanted to admit LMS had fake profiles but now he does? Weird

Should I tell Dave what Lu is saying about his wife?

And then just now Cop sends this...(Lu sent it to her apparently)

Now Lu's wife has fake accounts?

Here is what he sent me:

Just a theory. As I said the only common link is that the people those pros looked at were all omwa that commented him. Plus was hoping my wife wasn't the only one that did that. Lollll

I didn't know what to do with this, but if Lu's admitting his his "wife" having fake accounts might want to be something we start to look into?

Another PM from Nizmo reagrding Max:

...

Max opened the hostilities just before the new year eve on Dec. 30, 2011, 06:59 AM when he suggested Laetitia Casta as candidate for his next poll. In 2008 he posted a fake nude about this French actress.

In reprisal against my post in his dead thread FOCUS on FACES!, Max prepared his ultimate strongest double attack suggesting for his next poll (posted 2 hours ago) again Laetitia at 08:06 AM but also her sister Marie Ange at 03:15 PM.

A week ago, the two sisters Casta won a porn photomontages made by Max.

A month ago, Max suggested Alessandra Ambrosio for his not so private photomontages.

Today, as a provocation, Max posted an acknowledge in the Laetitia Casta thread to promote his new system of poll again in his Bellazon signature: "Vote for the most beautiful face" pointing to http://polldaddy.com/poll/5857025/

with an explicit link to his porn yahoo!groups.

If it were not sufficient to ban this weirdo from Bellazon, Max made an online confession.

Google recorded his interview in response to the Anonymous' inquisitive questions.

Yours truly,

Nimzo

Again, I have no clue how we should approach this. Any feedback/suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

As for PP's post, those were convos b/t SL & Cop? I am not really clear about the situation mentioned in the post.

@prettyphile: I don't get the fuss here, does Dave (who?) or Dave's wife do anything besides visiting profiles? Of which possible multiple accunts of them are we talking about? Can we look up the IPs on those?

@PinkCouture: Well, I think it is allowed to link to your websites in your profile and about-me-page. Since there already is the frame in the profile to link to your website. But I don't think it is allowed to link to a site outside BZ in your signature. At least I PM people to delete those links from their sig. So I just edited Max' Signature.

I don't see there's a rule against doing photomontages though personally I really hate those. Of course Max is not allowed to promote his own site and poll in posts, but that's the only thing we can get him on and it's hardly a thing to ban him for.

Nimzo on the other hand is probably one of the weirdest guys around. I know him from the Laetitia Casta thread. He's probably overacting a bit here ...

1. Several members are asking if there's anything we could do about the black frame around the attachments? Any possibility to reduce or even remove it?

2. Could we do something about the attachment funcion altogether? I mean, one pic at a time is really time consuming, couldn't there be like a multiple selection option, so you could at least upload 5 to 10 pics at once?

3. The Logo picture, I really would like to to a poll about it - though some people didn't seem happy about it, but it's the fairest way in my opinion, isn't it!

I thought we could ask people to send in their favorite portrait pictures of all time and then I could manage a poll with those. I'm just not sure how to announce it and where so that nobody could complain he or she hadn't known about it ... is it possible to send a PM to all members or is this too intrusive?

....

@PinkCouture: Well, I think it is allowed to link to your websites in your profile and about-me-page. Since there already is the frame in the profile to link to your website. But I don't think it is allowed to link to a site outside BZ in your signature. At least I PM people to delete those links from their sig. So I just edited Max' Signature.

I don't see there's a rule against doing photomontages though personally I really hate those. Of course Max is not allowed to promote his own site and poll in posts, but that's the only thing we can get him on and it's hardly a thing to ban him for.

Nimzo on the other hand is probably one of the weirdest guys around. I know him from the Laetitia Casta thread. He's probably overacting a bit here ...

Thanks for response, input and clarification

I also think members should not make posts promoting their own websites & etc. Gisellebach was doing that for awhile but I told him/her not to unless the content is from his/her website.

1. Several members are asking if there's anything we could do about the black frame around the attachments? Any possibility to reduce or even remove it?

2. Could we do something about the attachment funcion altogether? I mean, one pic at a time is really time consuming, couldn't there be like a multiple selection option, so you could at least upload 5 to 10 pics at once?

3. The Logo picture, I really would like to to a poll about it - though some people didn't seem happy about it, but it's the fairest way in my opinion, isn't it!

I thought we could ask people to send in their favorite portrait pictures of all time and then I could manage a poll with those. I'm just not sure how to announce it and where so that nobody could complain he or she hadn't known about it ... is it possible to send a PM to all members or is this too intrusive?

1. I am not completely sure, but I don't think so.

2. I think the newest version of IPB lets you upload multiple files at a time

3. I agree. As much as I adore Valya it is time for something new. Perhaps we can post a multi-forum announcement and something in our signatures. I think PMing every member is a bit intrusive.

BTW, missed you!!! Welcome back

I honestly didn't know what to make of it myself. It looks like Sweet Lu is telling Cop that he's married and his wife has multiple accounts (SweetLu: Plus was hoping my wife wasn't the only one that did that. Lollll) and that iluvadrianalima's wife may or may not have multiple accounts too (as she/he/it may be the cause of why ppl's star rankings keep fluctuating so much)? I seriously have no idea. I just wanted to bring it to the attention of you guys as a just in case thing.

Anywho I agree that a poll for the new logo sounds good. If you guys want I can set one up.

2. I think the newest version of IPB lets you upload multiple files at a time

Okay, is there a plan to update to the newest version in decent time? I've got absolutely no idea if this is an easy thing to do or not ... but it surely would be a great help if there was a multiple upload. Of course one could always use a diffrent image host, but you know how it is - links got deleted, posts are blank all of a sudden, ... <_<

3. I agree. As much as I adore Valya it is time for something new. Perhaps we can post a multi-forum announcement and something in our signatures. I think PMing every member is a bit intrusive.

Anywho I agree that a poll for the new logo sounds good. If you guys want I can set one up.

Soooo, let's just do it, what do you think!

Prettyphile, I would gladly let you take over! Although I'd already said I would manage the poll, I've never did it before so I'm not very keen to do it - but I offer help! I guess we should just tell people do submit a favorite "headshot" picture. I could do a little photoshop to put the pics into the right angle & size, if you want me to, that's absolutely no problem.

ABout the poll - I assume there will be hundreth of pics of Adriana and Gisele and the other big names, so I guess it would make sense if we first vote for the best picture submitted of the model, and then model against model so in the end we have a nice list of ranked pictures so we could use it to change the Logo every few month or so, going down the list.

If we set a poll on every submitted picture we'll have like pics of ... let's say Ms Lima from place 1 to 11 on the list and would be "stuck" with her ... no pun intended here, I just used her as an example

I honestly didn't know what to make of it myself. It looks like Sweet Lu is telling Cop that he's married and his wife has multiple accounts (SweetLu: Plus was hoping my wife wasn't the only one that did that. Lollll) and that iluvadrianalima's wife may or may not have multiple accounts too (as she/he/it may be the cause of why ppl's star rankings keep fluctuating so much)? I seriously have no idea. I just wanted to bring it to the attention of you guys as a just in case thing.

I really don't know what got into people, funny I never noticed when I was "just" a member ... it would be so much easier if they would just get along without all those irritating down or uprating, I feel like we're in a kindergarten, my goodness! ... couldn't we just deactivate it? O_o

Maybe we could do something like The BZ Babe draft sign-up thread? Each of the staff picks six woman (maybe we can request 4 models and 2 actresses?). People can vote and decide on which grouping of woman they'd like to see as the possible logo babe.

(example from the old Babe draft thread)

.Zee. : Gemma Ward - Izabel Goulart - Scarlett Johansson - Isabeli Fontana - Eva Longoria - Aishwarya Rai

Taben : Tiiu Kuik - Jessica Alba - Doutzen Kroes - Natalia Vodianova - Katja Shchekina - Rianne Ten Haken

Bouazizi: Raica Oliveira - Heidi Klum - Josie Maran - Monica Bellucci - Marisa Miller - Jennifer Lamiraqui

Chick style: Natasha Poly - Kate Moss - Luisana Lopilato - Anna Maria Jagodzinska - Julie Ordon - Thais Oliveira

Persuazn: Inguna Butane - Karolina Kurkova - Bianca Balti - Polina Kouklina - Valentina Zeliaeva - Miranda Kerr

MattLoveModels: Kristin Kreuk - Megan Ewing - Kate Beckinsale - Shakira - Sabrina Jales - Karen Carreno

We can give the members up to two/three weeks to vote for the one or two groupings they like, and the winning groups can then go in a head to head comp. Eventually we would weed it down to that one woman who gained the majority of votes as our next logo girl.

If we give them too much say it'll be a landslide in 3-5 models favor with basically everyone else being shut out every single time. If the staff comes up with the woman there will at least be some chance of the lesser known woman winning.

Either way it's totally up to you hun. I'll do whatever you need me to