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Yeah I never got to see it, I knew about it but thankfully I never got the full visuals 
Pretty sure this account is from a person that has been banned before for having multiple accounts lol https://www.bellazon.com/main/profile/154820-fashiontalents/
10 minutes ago, Clauds said:Pretty sure this account is from a person that has been banned before for having multiple accounts lol https://www.bellazon.com/main/profile/154820-fashiontalents/
And I got this email:
Dear all,
On the March 15, 2020 at 00:00 am (Paris time), new official Bellazon thread of my client (Ana Lucia Rivera) was opened by username @FashionTalents. BUT it is temporarily closed without reason.
On February 2, 2020 I submitted a deletion request for the thread that was full of incorrect informations. And I thank you for the quick reaction.
But I never prohibit that someone else can open the thread with my client's name.
And I said:
" It's an honor to have thread on Bellazon, but with correct informations."
And the person who opened the new thread (now temporarily closed) put all the correct information and got MY PERMISSION to open the thread.
And one of the administrators (@phenobarbie) disrespected me. Instead of send me the email to confirme, she was searching me on the Internet. And she is claiming that I don't have a gmail. That obviously is not true. If something is no on the Internet, that does not mean that is not true.
You can open the thread that @FashionTalents opened. If you don't , we (I and my client) will be very offended.
Thank you for your attention.
Kind regards,
Agent Aline Souliers
I will answer saying that since they requested to not have a thread and we have no way of keeping track if the information is truthful or not then we will just delete all threads with their names.
8 minutes ago, maddog107 said:I will answer saying that since they requested to not have a thread and we have no way of keeping track if the information is truthful or not then we will just delete all threads with their names.
Are you sure it's a legit email? Tbh, I am 100% that FashionTalents account is from the same person who had an account named ModelSociety or something like that and the person got banned for having multiple accounts (all of them replying to each other in the Ana thread lol) and now in the new thread, I'm sure it's the same person. I don't know who this model is, nor do I care, I can open a new thread or edit the one we already have. Maybe we can try reaching out to the model via social media?
Also, I google Aline Souliers and seems like this person is an agent but not for models, but for artists, these are the contact emails from her website http://www.alinesouliers-agentspecial.com/Agent_Special/Contact-Agent-Harumi-Klossowska-Thierry-Mugler-Joseph-Carle.html
EDIT: I found her (the model) on twitter, she does mention BZ and the account. Trying to talk to her at the moment
Are we even sure this is a real model? I cannot find anything online from this girl other than an alleged IG account (which is private) and a twitter account with like 2k followers but without actual pictures on it either she posted on twitter about BZ today and all the replies are from accounts that scream fake. I'm starting to believe this may just be somebody trying to pass as a model. It's weird as fuck.
EDIT: for sure fake, there's no "Ana Lucia Rivera" in any of the agencies listed in the threads nor in Models.com and there is also nothing on this Aline Souliers person being a model agent. My best bet is that this person is using pictures of an unknown model and trying to catfish us lol.
So this is the conversation after I reached out on Twitter (sorry, I can't screenshot, I'm using a Mac and idk how to lol):
Me: Hi Ana. Thanks for getting back to me. First of all, we need proof of ID from either you or your agent, as otherwise we have no real way of knowing it's actually you because your social media is not verified. On the other hand, we have a problem with your threads as it is one person creating multiple accounts and that is not allowed. We obviously have no issues with anyone having a thread on Bellazon, so once we sort of the ID situation we can open one! Could you please send me a link to your profile in your agency? I tried searching myself but unfortunately you are not listed in Catwalk as far as I could see
So-called-Ana: I really don't know how Bellazon works. And I really don't know who that could be. I really don't care if I will have thread on the Bellazon. I had thread, but asked my agent to send takedown request because nothing was true. The girl who opened the thread contacted me and said that she opened Bellazon thread with permission of my agent.... And that she needs my help because Bellazon closed thread until she proves that she has permission. And I tweeted. I thought that will help her. And like every responsible person, I will not send my ID to anyone. My privacy is number one. And I don't have to prove anything to anyone. Not having verified profiles doesn't mean that isn't me. So, open or close thread. I don't care. I am busy with really important things. Thank you for your time! Besos...
Me: You don't have to send a legal ID, a gym card or library card from either you or your agent are fine, we obviously don't ask people to send anything that could get them in trouble, but this is something we do very often due to the amount of requests we get from models, photographers and agents. Because of all the issues we've had with the threads in the past, they will remain closed until we have solid proof this isn't just one person spamming the forum. Cheers!
Aaand I did not get an answer, so she's not even trying to send a link to her alleged agency profile 
Aline Souliers does represent models, if you go through the website there are numerous references to models she has in the past represented. Regardless, the email associated with the official site the agent has is not a gmail account, nor is the language in the "screenshot" I was sent even remotely close to what an attorney or agent uses. I have reached out to the actual email from the agent's official site and I am waiting on a response.
This is what I sent to the actual email.
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To: aline@alinesouliers-agentspecial.com
Hello,
I am a representative of the fashion forum Bellazon.com and am reaching out to you regards to a thread that we previously had on the forum. Ana Lucia Rivera had a thread on the forum previously and it was removed at the request of the model. We have recently had another member attempt to reopen her thread allegedly with the permission of her agent and her attorney.
The email he provided was alinesouliersagent@gmail.com and when googled doesn’t return any information. However the first portion did lead me to your website.
I was wondering if you did in fact represent this model, and if so if you or her had in fact granted permission for the thread to be reopened. We typically try and accommodate celebrities/models and their agents when it comes to take down requests and are erring on the side of caution at this time.
Thank you for your time, and if you can get me back to me at your earliest convenience that would be greatly appreciated.
-Phenobarbie
And this is the conversation I had with the member who opened the thread.
Also, just to further point out.
https://www.instagram.com/alinesouliers/
https://twitter.com/AlineSouliers
http://www.alinesouliers-agentspecial.com/Agent_Special/Gallery_6.html
KEKW
She accepted my follow request on ig, but at this point I don't know if I care enough to reach out to her.
She's stated she doesn't care one way or the other if she has the thread. There was a takedown request in the past to have her previous thread removed, rather than just a request for updated correct information. At this point I think we just leave it as is and perhaps create a thread in the staff section with a list of verified accounts/names and a list of all threads that have had formal take down requests.
3 hours ago, phenobarbie said:She accepted my follow request on ig, but at this point I don't know if I care enough to reach out to her.
She's stated she doesn't care one way or the other if she has the thread. There was a takedown request in the past to have her previous thread removed, rather than just a request for updated correct information. At this point I think we just leave it as is and perhaps create a thread in the staff section with a list of verified accounts/names and a list of all threads that have had formal take down requests.
Yup its a nobody so just take it down and dont waste any more time on them.
Regarding keeping a list, thats a good idea because threads are recreated all the time and I dont remember. I will try to build some software that will auto prevent people starting certain peoples threads but that would be a while off.
I somehow doubt that the thread will be missed anyway. 
This is all around weird. I really think somebody is just trying to catfish us and at this point I don't even think Ana Lucia Rivera is a real model
EDIT: I just checked my twitter and "the agency" has put up a profile on Feb 27th here (yes, a wordpress lol), but this is not the actual website for Catwalk has nothing related to this woman.
This gets better all the twitter accounts related to this are just followed by a bunch of fake accounts from models, I am cackling. Maybe these people are like, role playing and got too caught up in it? Or just one person with a lot of free time?
I obviously don't care about this thread being open or not, I'm just enjoying the ridiculousness here tbh because it feels like somebody is just really crazy but I agree we should have a list of models that have sent requests to take down threads.
So much sketch it's not even funny. I agree with Bossman, just let it go. No one is going to miss out if the girl doesn't have a thread.
I honestly had a lot of fun with this because it's so ridiculous lol, whoever is behind this has put massive effort into creating a lot of fake accounts and even created several obviously fake blogs as well
She is still emailing me as both the agent and the model herself saying its ok to have a thread 
How do people have so much time in life
I WANT TO SEE THOSE EMAILS!!
They legit posted a picture of Candice (or Romee, they look like twins tbh) in the original thread and said it was "Ana Lucia Rivera". I'm sorry but if there's one thing BZ is known for, is for knowing for even breathes anywhere near VS so the fact that they are trying to pass her as a successful VS model had me cackling, there is absolutely no way none of us heard from this chick before if she was actually doing VS. I want to know who the actual model (or models?) is tho, feel bad for her being used for catfishing. I am 100% sure all the posts, emails and etc are coming from the same person, maybe he/she has nothing to do now that we're all in quarantine?
EDIT:
I've found one girl! One of the many "Ana"s is actually Sophie Stokes.
I still haven’t had a response from the official email of the agent they’re trying to pose as. Honestly I’m not expecting one at this point though.
At this point I'm not sure if you want to create a thread in the moderator section with a list of who's confirmed identity and requested thread removals, but @KarlijnA has provided proof of identity at this point and requested that her entire thread be deleted, which I see @maddog107 has already done 
btw, I really really question the intelligence of some of these people. Either I have serious trust issues, or they are just entirely to trusting.
I had Paula Backman send me proof of who she was last year and deleted the thread, I know I've closed at least a couple more but can't remember right now. And IIRC Daria Dereviankina also requested her thread was removed a while ago.
Can anyone check if any of these accounts belong to the same person? There can only be one Claudia in this forum and it is me.
https://www.bellazon.com/main/profile/118052-claudiawilliams/
https://www.bellazon.com/main/profile/89754-victoriassecret_aut/
JK, it was reported by a member that the three accounts were shady-ish and the Claudia thing is kinda a flag plus they do post in the same threads and the same type of nonsense.
Can you do an IP search for rosiestardust? She told me she used to have an old account and couldn't access it again, I told her she can't have two accounts so we could let her keep the new one and have the old one banned so she doesn't get flagged for having for mulitple accounts, she thought her old account was Briar but the account seems to have no activity at all and she says she is 100% sure of having posted in the forum before