Michael*

Yes,I do.But I stopped this week due to lots of injuries[4 infact]on my right foot and leg.One of the players was little harsh on me,I usually play in centre and many times they need me in goal area as goalkeeper,I'm sometimes good at keeping the goal clean.

Who else do you think would join the team,are there any other fans here?

Most guys play football when they're kids,all my country are obsessed with football,I wasn't interested in playing when I was a kid but was so much following football matches of my favourite team,my brothers were the reason infact,they are obsessed with football.It's only these 2 years that I started playing ,and at the same time I stopped caring a lot for following my team,but I follow big football competitions,not only UEFA and WC but also African and South American cups .

On a side different note,the forum seems to be little different for me these days,some members disappeared,others surprise me with their acts .I feel a little bit stranger.

Well, I hope the injuries heal up soon. Here's our team so far, plenty of positions open. When we're finished assembling a complete BZ eleven, I thought we could challenge TFS to a grudge match.

Will you be watching the Confederations Cup this month? It was very enjoyable in South Africa four years ago, and it's being taken seriously by all concerned with full squads again this year. It features eight teams - Brazil, Uruguay, Mexico, Spain, Italy, Japan, Nigeria and of course, the big one, Tahiti. I've never actually seen Tahiti play football but I'm very much looking forward to it.

Just when you think you're out, they pull you right back in again...

Man of steel gifs that I like:

http://postimg.org/g...gkdv2/a01804af/

Yeah, can't argue with that . As to his prize, at least its on video and they can't take that away . Bull riding is another one I suck at although I can't say that I necessarily love it . I am probably by default (of the average person in the modern world not doing it) above average (no pun intended) at horse riding although not a racer by any means. Seeing as how I inquired in another thread, I might as well inquire here. Do you by any chance have a top 10 babes of your countrywomen? I must admit that I don't see too many overly distinguishing features of American, English, Australian or Canadian women or people, but I am compiling one for the various countries anyway. While I'm at it, I know you are a fellow fan of ladies on base on guitar, do you also like female drummers? (aside from the Pilgrim avatar that time) Of course, I like all female instrumentalists, but obviously drums, base and electric guitar are ones women either aren't expected to do and then sometimes don't get due credit when they do.

I'm afraid I suffer from levels of indecision to rival that of Axl Rose when it comes to making top ten lists, but I'll certainly try and give it a shot.

Posted a couple of drumming (and guitaring) videos in the new thread, and planning to post a few more soon. Historically and probably statistically, women might have been far more likely to pick up microphones than a set of drumsticks, but thanks to the welcome explosion of all-girl rock/indie bands in the last 10-15 years or so, there are way more great female drummers around now.

Man of steel gifs that I like:

http://postimg.org/g...gkdv2/a01804af/

Thanks Andy, I haven't seen it yet (planning on changing that in the coming week) but I'm expecting maximum destruction.

Thanks for contributing . Strangely enough, I've always seen girl drummers on the jazz scene even though most didn't make the radio airwaves to my knowledge. As a matter of fact, the best I've seen in person were probably jazz and fusion, but that's one of those endangered species genres . Oh yeah, I meant to say of Buckley earlier, as much as I like his work, I can't help but choke whenever I hear the absurdity about him having had a 6 octave range . I know Mariah Carey for example goes lower and higher and doesn't have that much. That's not to say that I didn't find his range more than adequate though. As a matter of fact, I love many singers that seem to have 1-2 .

Thanks for contributing . Strangely enough, I've always seen girl drummers on the jazz scene even though most didn't make the radio airwaves to my knowledge. As a matter of fact, the best I've seen in person were probably jazz and fusion, but that's one of those endangered species genres . Oh yeah, I meant to say of Buckley earlier, as much as I like his work, I can't help but choke whenever I hear the absurdity about him having had a 6 octave range . I know Mariah Carey for example goes lower and higher and doesn't have that much. That's not to say that I didn't find his range more than adequate though. As a matter of fact, I love many singers that seem to have 1-2 .

It's an interesting point, that. There seem to be singers who aren't the best technically but know how best to convey emotion or meaning in a song (Mick Jagger, Bob Dylan etc) and singers who possess potentially spectacular voices but totally misuse them. Very rarely these days do you hear a voice the combines the two, with an equal share of raw emotion and extravagant gifts. I'd probably put Jeff Buckley and Antony Hegarty (of Antony & The Johnsons) down as good contemporary examples, but it's kinda tricky to think of many more.

In rock music (or in the manner that the genre is generally defined currently), I'd probably also add Freddie Mercury and Roy Orbison and Elvis Presley to the group of conveying emotion with great technical ability. With Rob Halfod, due to the subject matter, its somewhat difficult for me to assess the emotion . In country music, I'd add Patsy Cline and Jennifer Nettles as a couple of the examples on that side. Jagger and Dylan of course are great examples of the opposite. I actually think Jeff's father Tim had the biggest technical range in the family although his son Jeff by contrast had much more emotional range. As a group though (in mainstream music), I would say that the R&B singers of the 50s-60s are the strongest I've seen in that capacity in that they were not only stacked with singers as emotional as any, but with voices as good as any non-opera singers. I could probably write an encyclopedia about them and some say I should . Such an R&B singer is like a samurai now in that when someone sees one that can do more than lightly sing unemotionally over rap or pop beats, they seem almost foreign. Even among the mostly unknowns from that time like Garnett Mimms, Clyde McPhatter, Brook Benton, Little Willie John ect. would easily slay the genre's current representation. By the 80s, there were still many good voices, but separation from the gospel and blues roots and replaced them with more pop influences and studio synthesizers also took a toll on the emotional side too eventually. Of course, music videos made looks more important too. On the flip side, Otis Redding and James Brown were more like the Jaggers and Dylans of R&B (soul subgenre) as they didn't have the technical skills of some of their peers, but made up for it with style and emotion. Of course, its worth mentioning that Jagger is himself an R&B singer too (and by his own declaration), only a different subgenre. Unlike Dylan and Jagger though, Hendrix was probably actually somewhat below average , but he would apply for the emotional side without the technical too. There were and still are quite a few in Jazz too although emotion is conveyed more subtly in Jazz and probably Indie too compared to other genres where the emotional standard is more overt or in your face so to speak. To me Billie Holiday and Sarah Blasko convey emotion (especially Holliday), but its not as overt as the standard of other genres, but greatly moving to me anyway.

In rock music (or in the manner that the genre is generally defined currently), I'd probably also add Freddie Mercury and Roy Orbison and Elvis Presley to the group of conveying emotion with great technical ability. With Rob Halfod, due to the subject matter, its somewhat difficult for me to assess the emotion . In country music, I'd add Patsy Cline and Jennifer Nettles as a couple of the examples on that side. Jagger and Dylan of course are great examples of the opposite. I actually think Jeff's father Tim had the biggest technical range in the family although his son Jeff by contrast had much more emotional range. As a group though (in mainstream music), I would say that the R&B singers of the 50s-60s are the strongest I've seen in that capacity in that they were not only stacked with singers as emotional as any, but with voices as good as any non-opera singers. I could probably write an encyclopedia about them and some say I should . Such an R&B singer is like a samurai now in that when someone sees one that can do more than lightly sing unemotionally over rap or pop beats, they seem almost foreign. Even among the mostly unknowns from that time like Garnett Mimms, Clyde McPhatter, Brook Benton, Little Willie John ect. would easily slay the genre's current representation. By the 80s, there were still many good voices, but separation from the gospel and blues roots and replaced them with more pop influences and studio synthesizers also took a toll on the emotional side too eventually. Of course, music videos made looks more important too. On the flip side, Otis Redding and James Brown were more like the Jaggers and Dylans of R&B (soul subgenre) as they didn't have the technical skills of some of their peers, but made up for it with style and emotion. Of course, its worth mentioning that Jagger is himself an R&B singer too (and by his own declaration), only a different subgenre. Unlike Dylan and Jagger though, Hendrix was probably actually somewhat below average , but he would apply for the emotional side without the technical too. There were and still are quite a few in Jazz too although emotion is conveyed more subtly in Jazz and probably Indie too compared to other genres where the emotional standard is more overt or in your face so to speak. To me Billie Holiday and Sarah Blasko convey emotion (especially Holliday), but its not as overt as the standard of other genres, but greatly moving to me anyway.

Good calls all, especially on the R&B singers of the 50s and 60s era. It's a subject I've been pondering a bit lately and I was finding it really tricky to think of many decent examples. So what would you say your favourite genre is then, Joe? You seem to have a taste for an extremely wide variety of styles.

I think I'm in love

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvePB2pB9Zs

It's not a style of music I've ever really educated myself in, but there's no denying she has a pretty powerful set of pipes.

For a wedding between two famous people, it looks like a remarkably and refreshingly low-key affair. Was it in Poland?

It's not a style of music I've ever really educated myself in, but there's no denying she has a pretty powerful set of pipes.

Thanks, I definitely try . As to the question of number one favorite, its difficult to say seeing as how some genres are so broad. Who's doing it surely has some bearing as its surely not disco, but I'd take the BeeGees over Nickleback or Soulja Boy. I'm obviously a huge fan of 'rock' and 'R&B' but both are more broad than some people think. For example, from the early 50s to the very early 70s, the terms Rhythm and Blues and Rock & Roll were used pretty much interchangeably with many artists people currently think of as either or charting in both and referring to themselves as both and still referring to themselves as both. Even the Beatles had a couple R&B hits like Twist & Shout and That's What I Want, both covers and not theft unlike *coughs* Zep. On the other hand, Bo Diddley who now is considered to be a rock artist had an R&B hit with 'I'm a Man' (not to be confused with 'Mannish Boy' which came out later that year as a response to it). As I mentioned earlier, a vast sequence of events (that expounding upon would get me too far off track) took place from the 70s-80s to separate the two and both started to sample a lot more from pop at some point. Despite that, even during the time period before they were considered to be separate, there were tons of subgenres. Then I'm a huge fan of Blues, but seeing as how its prime was well before my lifetime, I don't have the same sentimental attachment as I have with some others. The same could be said for Jazz only there is some sentimental attachment seeing as how it has had much more commercial success in my lifetime and I've seen some live. Its definitely a contender by virtue of the fact that both instrumental and vocal jazz are awesome. Of course, to broaden matters more, every country and ever region of the U.S. as well as many others had and have their own style of every genre too. I love classical, but not as much as those previously mentioned (aside from disco of course). Indie music is somewhat of a final frontier for me in that I could maybe write books about the other genres, but it is the one that is new to me. Truth be told, if it is short for 'independent' I'm not even sure whether its a style of music which would then make it possibly the most broad of all. It does on the other hand, have sentimental value because I 'discovered' it during a time when I was frustrated with mainstream music and didn't want to become a young grumpy old man and it was there to save me from that even though I have to go out in my way to hear and see it since I don't hear it on the radio. I love rap too especially seeing as how I'm way better at rapping than singing although I think the genre is well past its prime and being such a young genre, its reign really wasn't even that long. I love country although I'd probably put it behind classical and also behind African, Latin and Japanese music. Whether its behind folk or not, I'm not sure at the moment. I would rank country ahead of bluegrass though. It would probably be easier to go in reverse and list my least favorite genres although I love music from all genres. The following are my least favorites...

5. American and Canadian Styled Mainstream Pop Rock (late 90s-present) - overall poor instrumentation and not a lot of creativity compared to say every other era and subgenre of rock.

4. Mainstream Pop in General (late 90s-present)

3. Mainstream Pop Boy Band (late 80s-present) - played out dance moves + recycled 80s R&B beats + some white guys working really hard at choreography and you have a multi million dollar gimmick.

I think how obviously contrived of a marketing scheme it all is probably makes the music seem even worse. Of course, he who's name shouldn't be mentioned here is a one person boy band.

2. Techno - basically take the lameness of disco and add with it some weird, repetitive beats over and over for seemingly 25 years and still going strong.

1. House Music - I'm not actually sure of the difference between this and techno though.

I used to think Disco was the worst ever, but they still had artists with superior talent to these. That said, I still love songs from all of these mentioned . Some examples with North American mainstream Pop Rock, Maroon 5's first album, Mainstream Boy Band a couple Backstreet Boy guilty pleasures and the 'What is Love?' song on the techno side.

It's not a style of music I've ever really educated myself in, but there's no denying she has a pretty powerful set of pipes.

So wrong, I misread it as 'powerful set of nipples'

I think 'The Voice' is more of a family show.

Yes, in Serock. I knew where it is, the same voivodeship as the capital city but just checked how far it's from Warsaw-40 kilometeres. Which basically means it takes like 2 hours to get there (haha ok maybe I've exaggerated, but I remember my dad had to drive me to a town not so far from Serock during weekend back when I was in high school and still, we drove for more than an hour).

To me, it looks like a standard wedding I mean, yeah, it's not extravagant, it's in church and there are many bodyguards and even more people to protect the young couple from.

However I have no idea why a girl would think such dress is good for church. Wedding... maybe but if there's not lots of dancing, I don't know.

It looks like a nice place. Is that Szczesny with the specs on? I hardly recognised him.

Thanks, I definitely try . As to the question of number one favorite, its difficult to say seeing as how some genres are so broad. Who's doing it surely has some bearing as its surely not disco, but I'd take the BeeGees over Nickleback or Soulja Boy. I'm obviously a huge fan of 'rock' and 'R&B' but both are more broad than some people think. For example, from the early 50s to the very early 70s, the terms Rhythm and Blues and Rock & Roll were used pretty much interchangeably with many artists people currently think of as either or charting in both and referring to themselves as both and still referring to themselves as both. Even the Beatles had a couple R&B hits like Twist & Shout and That's What I Want, both covers and not theft unlike *coughs* Zep. On the other hand, Bo Diddley who now is considered to be a rock artist had an R&B hit with 'I'm a Man' (not to be confused with 'Mannish Boy' which came out later that year as a response to it). As I mentioned earlier, a vast sequence of events (that expounding upon would get me too far off track) took place from the 70s-80s to separate the two and both started to sample a lot more from pop at some point. Despite that, even during the time period before they were considered to be separate, there were tons of subgenres. Then I'm a huge fan of Blues, but seeing as how its prime was well before my lifetime, I don't have the same sentimental attachment as I have with some others. The same could be said for Jazz only there is some sentimental attachment seeing as how it has had much more commercial success in my lifetime and I've seen some live. Its definitely a contender by virtue of the fact that both instrumental and vocal jazz are awesome. Of course, to broaden matters more, every country and ever region of the U.S. as well as many others had and have their own style of every genre too. I love classical, but not as much as those previously mentioned (aside from disco of course). Indie music is somewhat of a final frontier for me in that I could maybe write books about the other genres, but it is the one that is new to me. Truth be told, if it is short for 'independent' I'm not even sure whether its a style of music which would then make it possibly the most broad of all. It does on the other hand, have sentimental value because I 'discovered' it during a time when I was frustrated with mainstream music and didn't want to become a young grumpy old man and it was there to save me from that even though I have to go out in my way to hear and see it since I don't hear it on the radio. I love rap too especially seeing as how I'm way better at rapping than singing although I think the genre is well past its prime and being such a young genre, its reign really wasn't even that long. I love country although I'd probably put it behind classical and also behind African, Latin and Japanese music. Whether its behind folk or not, I'm not sure at the moment. I would rank country ahead of bluegrass though. It would probably be easier to go in reverse and list my least favorite genres although I love music from all genres. The following are my least favorites...

5. American and Canadian Styled Mainstream Pop Rock (late 90s-present) - overall poor instrumentation and not a lot of creativity compared to say every other era and subgenre of rock.

4. Mainstream Pop in General (late 90s-present)

3. Mainstream Pop Boy Band (late 80s-present) - played out dance moves + recycled 80s R&B beats + some white guys working really hard at choreography and you have a multi million dollar gimmick.

I think how obviously contrived of a marketing scheme it all is probably makes the music seem even worse. Of course, he who's name shouldn't be mentioned here is a one person boy band.

2. Techno - basically take the lameness of disco and add with it some weird, repetitive beats over and over for seemingly 25 years and still going strong.

1. House Music - I'm not actually sure of the difference between this and techno though.

I used to think Disco was the worst ever, but they still had artists with superior talent to these. That said, I still love songs from all of these mentioned . Some examples with North American mainstream Pop Rock, Maroon 5's first album, Mainstream Boy Band a couple Backstreet Boy guilty pleasures and the 'What is Love?' song on the techno side.

I get that all the time, I'll occasionally revisit types of music or certain artists I had thought to be pretty tame at the time, and end up thinking 'hmm, that's actually not bad.'

But yeah, Indie is really a pretty vague term. It only ever used to mean ‘independent’, in that it wasn't associated with the traditional channels of major record labels, without the help of radio, and/or performed by unsigned or struggling artists. It no longer holds as much in the way of descriptive value as it did in, say, the early 90s though. These days, some people’s idea of indie is Fall Out Boy, while at the same time, you can have a band like Built to Spill, who are resolutely a part of that now-traditional indie rock sound, technically signed to Warner Brothers. I suppose in the era of instant distribution via the internet, an artist could be on an independent label but also still be quite successful in a mainstream capacity if, for example, they were to write a breakthrough hit that got a lot of airplay. So I guess pretty much anything slightly leftfield could be considered indie if you wanted it to be.

There's definitely a sound that people seem to associate with Indie music and that's pretty much it. The only thing that bothers me though is when you have a teenage girl on a talent show with an acoustic imitating some artist that many people haven't heard of they'll all say, 'she's just so unique and original' :yuccky: . It drives me nuts .

It's not a style of music I've ever really educated myself in' date=' but there's no denying she has a pretty powerful set of pipes.

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She had been a backup R&B singer and is said to have been in the 'Cats' musical . I think they sing random genres for auditions to increase the likelihood of someone turning around. These are both different styles, but its interesting to see that she has different sides to her.

Sensual side...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXaJCNzKRDY

Playful side and working the stage

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY3Z4jHa-44

I don't think I've had such a crush on a good singer since I saw Kimbra for the first time and at that time, I hadn't had such a crush on a talented artist since I saw Janelle Mone for the first time. All of which I needed since my Rihanna love has shamed me so .

It looks like a nice place. Is that Szczesny with the specs on? I hardly recognised him.

Well, I hope the injuries heal up soon. Here's our team so far, plenty of positions open. When we're finished assembling a complete BZ eleven, I thought we could challenge TFS to a grudge match.

Will you be watching the Confederations Cup this month? It was very enjoyable in South Africa four years ago, and it's being taken seriously by all concerned with full squads again this year. It features eight teams - Brazil, Uruguay, Mexico, Spain, Italy, Japan, Nigeria and of course, the big one, Tahiti. I've never actually seen Tahiti play football but I'm very much looking forward to it.

Just when you think you're out, they pull you right back in again...

Oh,thank you, I'm fine now.

Great position for me,I can go back and forth easily.

I missed most of it because of my vacation,I usually don't like any kinds of technology machines while vacationing[TV,mobile,lap],but I had a chance to follow the finals.Also wasn't in the mood to watch that known scenario,so I followed the expected results.Brazil won,Spain next,Italy third.Don't you think that it seems like this triangle is keeping making the final scenes in football compts these years,no signs of new faces,I gave up hope in France to make any big deal.Brazil and Spain are in no doubt so great,but Spain doesn't have so great history as a country in big compts,wonder if it's going to continue like Brazil or stop at certain time,aslo Italy though it's unlike Spain and has great history of winning,but I don't count on it a lot,it always fails to continue.

I know most times,people don't take this compt. seriously as other compts.Did the attitude really change this time?

Yes,right.