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I am 'indifferent' about humankind. I don't love or hate it and, more or less, not even individual people at that. It is what it is, and it's more productive to me that I observe and study it. And ask 'why'. I don't demand moral 'perfection' because morality doesn't exist, anyway. It's a fluid man-made institution. War is just a peripheral activity, an extension of political life.![]()
Interesting kind of view
just like you, I find it productive - and interesting - to study and observe the behaviour of people - no matter what I think about mankind in general. Perfection doesn´t exist in any aspect - but don´t say it to Lima fans ![]()
At the heart of it, I believe in 'economics' and a principled liberal society- the rich, cultured person is less likely to commit 'total' crimes like mass murder to get what they want. A rich, cultured person makes more intelligent decisions and is not a slave to his or her whims. Crime has a strong positive correlation with poverty. So once wealth and culture are obtained, the ugliness is marginalized. I believe in well-functioning institutions and the countervailing forces that compose a respectable parliamentary democracy. And I believe that people can be a part of this.In the main, it has a pretty good track record. So 'wealth creation' features strongly in my views and is the essential necessity of progress.
That is why I find 'nature' to only be a feeding ground for it.
I wish you would be true - and you are, in the sense of that rich and cultured person is less likely to commit crimes (because the crime rate tends to increase in poor areas) - however... in reality, those are mostly rich and wealthy people whose "moral obligations" or how it can be called are far from what is generally considered "nice" or "fair". Using poverty for their own enriching, stealing and cheating on laws because they simply can afford it. Many of those rich people are maniacs (take Hitler, Musolini or Stalin) and all of the mass murderers were known for their high, above average intelligence. You always need a big mind to create big things - and use poor and uninteligent people ![]()
They say here, when you want to be rich, you need to take out your spinal colum. Money (and especially too much of it) degenerates your mind - and I see it all the time, all around me.
I like your ideas, I like their concept. I wish that could be true. Well-functioning institutions and respectable parliamentary democracy... this is just a dream in my eyes - but hope never dies.
Not necessarily the best. As in the marketplace, circumstances do matter, lol.
That´s quite relative - but yes, circumstances do matter. Evolution has always been about adapting to them.
That's true, but I see that the stars are irrelevant to my lifetime.
As long as they stay far away, yeah ![]()
I think that was the view of the 1960s counterculture in the US- that 'nuclear war' would go off, and why not just 'live' today?
Live like there is no tomorrow ![]()
Enjoyments and sentiments are endlessly malleable.I don't believe that human beings have any responsibility to the native environment beyond what effects health of people. Indeed, this divergence between our views are probably due to the fact that you get a lot of enjoyment out of nature and I get barely any. I probably would feel differently if I had more free time to enjoy nature. That's probably the case.
I think that´s exactly the case.

Poppy seems to be the less successful of the two in modeling. Judging from an interview, Cara is trying to position herself into landing acting roles. :-)
acting? That would be such a shame... she is great for modeling but I take that acting makes much more money.
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On Sundays. I do two shifts of six to seven hours. I need long blocks of time to study technical material. Other than that, I am more loose with material like 'Thinking Fast and Slow'. These books are viable 'chapter by chapter' reads and can be cleared without re-reading or losing one's train of thought.
If I only have an hour, I generally don't use it read books. It's not long enough for me to really 'get in' to it :-D
Languages are tough (I'm not doing one right now) because people literally have to practice a new language an hour a day or it fades..
Yeah, an hour a day... I wish I could have that much lol
today it´s cleaning up the bathroom, replanting some flowers (as much as I can) and packing up me and fl for the cottage (we´re heading there tomorrow) - then I might finally get some rest or read something ![]()

^Well, if you can send me a bottle...And no, don't get me wrong, I don't hate cherry wine - I just don't think of it as 'wine' per se. I've had home-made pea wine, and parsnip wine too - they're interesting, I'll say that! But they're no substitute.
Also, like most "kids", I used to drink those fortified wines like Thunderbird! :yuckky: And I don't know what I'd class them as, other than 'gut-rot'...
I seriously doubt it will get to you either full or unharmed
unfortunately ![]()
Now I know what you mean
have you ever tasted the gelatinous wine?

Yeah!!- Will be working for a company that takes photographs of properties and creates brochures (including floor plans) for estate agents. Its based in London, so I will be moving there as soon as I can. I have been busy looking at flatshares around the area. Kindly the job is on hold for me until I find a place to live. So thats why I haven't been around as of late.
Its been kinda stressful trying to sort everything out. Ultimately though I am really happy to be moving. It is what ive been wanting to do for a while (not sure if i told you about my troubles
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Sounds good eh?! How about you my darling? How have you been? And what you been up too
Yeah, you told me why you wanted to move to London, and I´m so so happy that it worked
and you got the job!
and they even will wait for you until you find your place - now I call this perfection
what are you looking for - specifically? What is a *"flatshare"?
Oh, I have been busy as hell, lots of stress, fl is still unemployed and I´m trying to minimize our costs... fortunately my salary for these last two months have been very good so I still manage to cover all of our costs and needs, and we were even able to go on this years´ Easter vander
fl is also helping me, but sometimes I just feel like I´m alone - because I have always had serious problem to rely on anybody else than me
so I stressed out and broke two weeks ago, it was not nice but we talked it out and I´m recently (still) learning to realize we´re two, and I´m not alone.
So it´s rather crazy. But good news - only three more months and my car will be paid up
and I can concentrate on moving on to buy a new place to live - or to actually buy the one we are currently living in. Also, my parents are divorcing - which is not good nor bad, so I´m just curious how everything will be later on.
You see. crazy things happening all the time and life spinning, just like you
Yeah, it all seems to be coming together. To good to be true really. I am just waiting for something to happen you know
A flatshare means living with other people in a flat. (room mates) So thats what i am looking for really, no real outrageous desires. Just a homely looking place with a nice group of sociable outgoing people. Preferable I would like to have a mix of boys/girls. It would just be nice to have a balance in the group, contrasting views and different interests etc etc you know? I saw one a few days ago that I'm really interested in. Great location, pretty central. So easy to get to most places in London. (5mins away from work) Has a great living room/dinning room. Really big and has lots of sun light during the day. The room i'll be having is a fair size too. Its in a moden stylish looking block of flats too. The other really cool thing is at the top (8 floors up) It has a great roof terrace. You can see most of London which is awesome. Has BBQ up there too....will be awesome in the summer time. As well as bonfire night, watching all the fireworks. The landlord seems really nice too. All I need to do now is meet my room mates. If we get along well and we like each other then it should be mine. But then again you never know which is why I am still looking at places.
Life does indeed seem pretty crazy for you. What is fl? I don't understand, you broke with what/who?
I know the feeling about being alone, that gets hard at times.
Also I am sorry to hear about your parents
Mine broke up when I was seven years old. It hit me really hard. I got fairly good expierence in that area. So if you need to talk to someone you know where I am. Also about being alone if you want
Glad to hear about paying for the car. Where you thinking of moving too? London perhaps. Always got room for you :brows:
donny, what kind of programme do you use for making those gorgeous set of yours? They´re the most perfect sets I´ve ever seen lol![]()
Aw, thank you ![]()
I make them in Photoshop ![]()

Her Skin to is flawless, granted she has age on her side right now, but still, its all on how you take care of yourself, does she drink and smoke????

^Yeah, I figured! Worth a punt though...I seriously doubt it will get to you either full or unharmedunfortunately
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^I honestly have no idea what you mean - and Google didn't help!Now I know what you meanhave you ever tasted the gelatinous wine?
Is it like jelly shots?

I wish you would be true - and you are, in the sense of that rich and cultured person is less likely to commit crimes (because the crime rate tends to increase in poor areas) - however... in reality, those are mostly rich and wealthy people whose "moral obligations" or how it can be called are far from what is generally considered "nice" or "fair". Using poverty for their own enriching, stealing and cheating on laws because they simply can afford it. Many of those rich people are maniacs (take Hitler, Musolini or Stalin) and all of the mass murderers were known for their high, above average intelligence. You always need a big mind to create big things - and use poor and uninteligent peopleThey say here, when you want to be rich, you need to take out your spinal colum. Money (and especially too much of it) degenerates your mind - and I see it all the time, all around me.
I like your ideas, I like their concept. I wish that could be true. Well-functioning institutions and respectable parliamentary democracy... this is just a dream in my eyes - but hope never dies.
Well, my ideas are true :-D, but only in a few affluent places that managed to pull it off. At heart, I am a corporatist and organizational man that believes in countervailing forces.
Mussolini was a fascist and a former schoolteacher/journalist, Hitler was an eccentric high school dropout, and Stalin was a gangster & murderer since his days in Baku. Besides for Mussolini's intellectual flights, the other two were sociopaths and morons in certain areas of intelligence. They lived in societies where (during this time period) the majority of people were highly ignorant and near illiterate. Standard of living was (at least in the US) 1/5th compared to today. Anyway, I don't believe that the historical use of communist or fascist dictators (this is called historicism) is appropriate in this context.
I think you have high moral standards, Jennka, and you expect a lot. There will always be bad behavior, exploitation, cheating, and unfairness in a capitalistic system. But selfish-forces can be confronted, minimized, and harnessed by strong institutions. I am very aware of the gross inequities in my country- for instance, in NYC 1/4th of the population is under the poverty line and the top 1% absorb 44% of NYC's income. I am also aware that I am part of something that is definitely not 'mainstream'.
However, I also aware of successes- there are large swathes of the US northeast (and California) and metropolitan areas that are good societies all full of college-educated professionals. So are many parts of Germany and Scandinavia. American Political BS aside... I think that the US government functions better than most governments in Europe as well. And so does American-style capitalism.
As for the degenerate (idle) rich (and poor for that matter), that's expected. A life with no goal, no direction, and no work besides 'endless stimulation' tends to lead to that. Our brains aren't meant to be idle. A lot of rich Manhattanites do nothing all day, but that's ok. They are drawing down on their inheritances & spouses but they aren't committing crimes.

acting? That would be such a shame... she is great for modeling but I take that acting makes much more money.Yeah, an hour a day... I wish I could have that much lol
today it´s cleaning up the bathroom, replanting some flowers (as much as I can) and packing up me and fl for the cottage (we´re heading there tomorrow) - then I might finally get some rest or read something
Yes, in that interview she talked about the fact that she won a film role, but she wasn't allowed to say anything else about it. Cara is precocious in certain ways for an 18 year old. She definitely has had a very posh upbringing.
It's funny, this whole nature conversation. I was also going to talk about Avatar too!
Being a domesticated creature, I try to minimize all chores and routine work in order to free up as much time as possible. I never take care of animals and plants for that reason. I buy my refrigeration food and consumer discretionary in bulk and never cook.
All of this wouldn't have been possible if I was maintaining someone. I have more freedom thanks to these habits.

Yeah, it all seems to be coming together. To good to be true really. I am just waiting for something to happen you knowA flatshare means living with other people in a flat. (room mates) So thats what i am looking for really, no real outrageous desires. Just a homely looking place with a nice group of sociable outgoing people. Preferable I would like to have a mix of boys/girls. It would just be nice to have a balance in the group, contrasting views and different interests etc etc you know? I saw one a few days ago that I'm really interested in. Great location, pretty central. So easy to get to most places in London. (5mins away from work) Has a great living room/dinning room. Really big and has lots of sun light during the day. The room i'll be having is a fair size too. Its in a moden stylish looking block of flats too. The other really cool thing is at the top (8 floors up) It has a great roof terrace. You can see most of London which is awesome. Has BBQ up there too....will be awesome in the summer time. As well as bonfire night, watching all the fireworks. The landlord seems really nice too. All I need to do now is meet my room mates. If we get along well and we like each other then it should be mine. But then again you never know which is why I am still looking at places.
Life does indeed seem pretty crazy for you. What is fl? I don't understand, you broke with what/who?
I know the feeling about being alone, that gets hard at times.
Also I am sorry to hear about your parents
Mine broke up when I was seven years old. It hit me really hard. I got fairly good expierence in that area. So if you need to talk to someone you know where I am. Also about being alone if you want
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Glad to hear about paying for the car. Where you thinking of moving too? London perhaps. Always got room for you :brows:
Thank you
you´re too kind ![]()
but to clear it up - I did not broke up with anyone, thanks god. Fl is fruitlover, my boyfriend
I just "broke down" because of all that stress that is around me, but he helps me a lot, he always does. Now I´m better, still trying to figure out some things and make them better (myself including).
As for my parents, they have bee separated for about 4 years since my father has had unplanned child with another woman, but they did not divorce at that time - he just moved in to the another woman to live with her (long story, and really crazy and complicated and you do not want to hear it). They are divorcing right now (once again, complicated), but they both are ok with it, so as long they are ok with it, I´m ok with it too lol. It more or less leaves me with no emotions at all. But thank you anyway ![]()
Do you get along well with both of your parents?
And I plan to move... I don´t know
I would love to move back to Karlovka where I grew up or to the cottage - but we might just as well stay where we are now till something better occurs ![]()
That living of yours sounds fantastic, I so hope it will come out well
inform me on any news! I also hope it´s not too pricy?

donny, what kind of programme do you use for making those gorgeous set of yours? They´re the most perfect sets I´ve ever seen lol![]()
Aw, thank you
I make them in Photoshop
I thought it was photoshop, but damn... I wasn´t able of more than just painting some pictures in it lol. You´re a true master
and how is work? Everything ok?

Her Skin to is flawless, granted she has age on her side right now, but still, its all on how you take care of yourself, does she drink and smoke????
I don´t know, but I´ve never so far seen her with cigarette or drink, so who knows ![]()

^Yeah, I figured! Worth a punt though...I seriously doubt it will get to you either full or unharmedunfortunately
^I honestly have no idea what you mean - and Google didn't help!Now I know what you meanhave you ever tasted the gelatinous wine?
Is it like jelly shots?
Yes, that´s the word! Here we call it "želatínové víno" - jelly wine
I could not find the right word, sorry ![]()

Well, my ideas are true :-D, but only in a few affluent places that managed to pull it off. At heart, I am a corporatist and organizational man that believes in countervailing forces.Mussolini was a fascist and a former schoolteacher/journalist, Hitler was an eccentric high school dropout, and Stalin was a gangster & murderer since his days in Baku. Besides for Mussolini's intellectual flights, the other two were sociopaths and morons in certain areas of intelligence. They lived in societies where (during this time period) the majority of people were highly ignorant and near illiterate. Standard of living was (at least in the US) 1/5th compared to today. Anyway, I don't believe that the historical use of communist or fascist dictators (this is called historicism) is appropriate in this context.
I think you have high moral standards, Jennka, and you expect a lot. There will always be bad behavior, exploitation, cheating, and unfairness in a capitalistic system. But selfish-forces can be confronted, minimized, and harnessed by strong institutions. I am very aware of the gross inequities in my country- for instance, in NYC 1/4th of the population is under the poverty line and the top 1% absorb 44% of NYC's income. I am also aware that I am part of something that is definitely not 'mainstream'.
However, I also aware of successes- there are large swathes of the US northeast (and California) and metropolitan areas that are good societies all full of college-educated professionals. So are many parts of Germany and Scandinavia. American Political BS aside... I think that the US government functions better than most governments in Europe as well. And so does American-style capitalism.
As for the degenerate (idle) rich (and poor for that matter), that's expected. A life with no goal, no direction, and no work besides 'endless stimulation' tends to lead to that. Our brains aren't meant to be idle. A lot of rich Manhattanites do nothing all day, but that's ok. They are drawing down on their inheritances & spouses but they aren't committing crimes.
Well, I think that all of these 3 dictators were psychically ill and had some serious health issues since their childhood - but they were intelligent and had that power to move masses (which, like you rightly stated, were more or less uneducated and starving for anything that would make their situation better). But it was just an example that cannot be applied generally, so I agree, this is not appropriate ![]()
I think that Germany, Switzerland, and countries like Denmark and Finland are good examples of your theory - with educated people and professionals, high-living of standard with eco-friendly environment that tries to make all the best for people and also for their country and nature.
You are also right that I have high moral standards and expect a lot, and I have serious troubles because of that
when I see that things COULD be working, but most of the people´s behaviour just messes it and ruins it, it drives me mad... I always try to act fair and in good manners, but sometimes (mostly) I feel like one in a million - and that suddens me a lot. I have a feeling that my nation needs a lot of time to grow, to realize that a working and healthy economy needs working and healthy (moral) people that not only take, but also give. Here the politics is mostly about stealing as much as you can during the 4-year long period of their government
these are communists that just changed their clothes, and it leads to nothing.
But I have hope, that it will get better finally - it just needs time. And the right people.

Yes, in that interview she talked about the fact that she won a film role, but she wasn't allowed to say anything else about it. Cara is precocious in certain ways for an 18 year old. She definitely has had a very posh upbringing.It's funny, this whole nature conversation. I was also going to talk about Avatar too!
Being a domesticated creature, I try to minimize all chores and routine work in order to free up as much time as possible. I never take care of animals and plants for that reason. I buy my refrigeration food and consumer discretionary in bulk and never cook.
All of this wouldn't have been possible if I was maintaining someone. I have more freedom thanks to these habits.
Posh means noble? She seems a very friendly and crazy person, totally different to her sister - maybe it´s her age, but I think it´s her personality the most
She expresses herself very well, and could be a great actress - actually I think she could be great in anything she chooses.
I consider the conversation very educating ![]()
Lol, could we be more different?
yet I enjoy talking to you and feel we have many things in common. Ironically, I´ve always thought these home-chores would restrict me, limit me, but I actually love them all, it keeps me active - and I seriously love cooking, it´s a whole new world! Plants give me pleasure, I take care of them and watch them grow, and when some dies I´m always sad - and I know it´s silly, I just can´t help it. Sometimes I talk to them
they never answer ![]()
I feel very creative when doing all of this - I actually stopped drawing when I started doing all these things - as well as writing. I feel more urge to read and educate myself than ever before - and also to work physically as to somehow relax from it all.
I also feel need to teach all this someone else - my kids maybe, one time - to teach them everything, I would like them to be better than I am, to know even more than I do.

Do you by any chance know the best way to dig without killing the worms
? Sometimes I seem to get lucky and they come up in the dirt without being cut but I can never predict what will happen. I also find it interresting that they say not to cover them back up with dirt but it seems if you don't then the birds will get them, so I just cover them up anyway hoping they'll find their way
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^Well that simply sounds foul!Is it like jelly shots?
Yes, that´s the word! Here we call it "želatínové víno" - jelly wine
I could not find the right word, sorry
I can only just about accept tetra-paks of wine... <_<
And if it ever gets a little too feline-heavy at the cottage: http://www.webuyanycat.com/ ![]()

Well, I think that all of these 3 dictators were psychically ill and had some serious health issues since their childhood - but they were intelligent and had that power to move masses (which, like you rightly stated, were more or less uneducated and starving for anything that would make their situation better). But it was just an example that cannot be applied generally, so I agree, this is not appropriate![]()
There's an old phrase that goes by 'Power has always baffled men'. There's a cult of celebrity that hides what are, in the end, mundane management and organizational processes. In the US, the average person has an irrational love with 'CEOs'. This love has distorted corporate governance politics...Our 'CEO's in large publically traded corporations earn, on average, 300-400 times their average worker's salaries and their key employees earn high multiples as well. I am fluent in business and I know what they all do on a daily basis, and it's, regardless of legality, just stealing. It's robbing shareholders and employees. And the business itself as an economic machine and the rest of society at that.
Mussolini was probably the most 'normal' of the three. Stalin was a 'strongman' (kind of like Saddam Hussein) and gang leader who got his start doing community organizing with the poor oil industry workers in Baku. Hitler got his start with his power of oratory and his ability to convince many people with his beliefs. All three were skilled 'community organizers' and 'talkers' but their 'genius' ends there. They were politicians throughout, and the rest was achieved by other people. For instance, Hitler would never have rose to power if he didn't succeed in gathering the loyalty of top men in the Army and big Business & German industry. He had WW1 veteran army officers & businessmen/professional managers manage the whole 'Nazi' political movement. That's why the 'SA' looked like an army...it was indeed management by former military commanders of WW1.
Mussolini was the most intelligent and least demented one. Stalin and Hitler were both very dysfunctional people.
I think that Germany, Switzerland, and countries like Denmark and Finland are good examples of your theory - with educated people and professionals, high-living of standard with eco-friendly environment that tries to make all the best for people and also for their country and nature.You are also right that I have high moral standards and expect a lot, and I have serious troubles because of that
when I see that things COULD be working, but most of the people´s behaviour just messes it and ruins it, it drives me mad... I always try to act fair and in good manners, but sometimes (mostly) I feel like one in a million - and that suddens me a lot. I have a feeling that my nation needs a lot of time to grow, to realize that a working and healthy economy needs working and healthy (moral) people that not only take, but also give. Here the politics is mostly about stealing as much as you can during the 4-year long period of their government
these are communists that just changed their clothes, and it leads to nothing.
But I have hope, that it will get better finally - it just needs time. And the right people.
The countries I mentioned have the least corrupt governments and policy making.
Most people have high moral standards and expect a lot more than is physically possible with current institutions. That's a good thing in a way.
(Aside from the numerous actors that were involved in the global economic crisis)There is a significant amount of corruption in the US, but not so much as some other countries due in part to our (relatively) strict laws and regulations, regulatory bureaucracies, 'bear' financial organizations like distressed debt funds & shorts. Regardless of recent developments in journalism, we still have more aggressive academia, print, and digital media. Our economy is higher-output (but questionable product mix), high productivity, and low prices so the negative effects of corruption are sometimes nullified a good deal. In most academic studies (corruption index), our corruption ratings are equivalent to Britain's (which is just about right, our government & business policies share many similarities). Our worst problem is the stark income inequality, insufficiently strong industrial sectors, and insufficient ability to generate good jobs. Just like britain, in fact.
I see economics as leading politics by an overwhelming margin. America was run by businessmen and landowners pre 1860, post 1860..corporations had overwhelming political power. Then government became powerful circa 1930 and corporations + government shared power until 1970. Finance came into the picture in the 70s and government weakened a little during the 80s/90s. Finance strengthened and corporations weakened. Come 2006, and government increases in power along with finance to a much smaller degree. Corporate power weakens. So, for the duration of my life, it was finance +corporations + government that held much of the political power. Embedded in each category is a plurality of institutions.
donny, what kind of programme do you use for making those gorgeous set of yours? They´re the most perfect sets I´ve ever seen lol![]()
Aw, thank you
I make them in Photoshop
I thought it was photoshop, but damn... I wasn´t able of more than just painting some pictures in it lol. You´re a true master
and how is work? Everything ok?
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Yeah, work is fine. Still pretty busy, but it's eased off a bit in the past couple of weeks - last month was really stressful ![]()

Posh means noble? She seems a very friendly and crazy person, totally different to her sister - maybe it´s her age, but I think it´s her personality the mostShe expresses herself very well, and could be a great actress - actually I think she could be great in anything she chooses.
Wealthy, privileged background. I think she's been boarding school educated w/possible theater experience since childhood. She must have grown up with people of much experience. In the interview I watched, she was street-smart and different from the usual clueless 18-year old.
I consider the conversation very educatingLol, could we be more different?
yet I enjoy talking to you and feel we have many things in common. Ironically, I´ve always thought these home-chores would restrict me, limit me, but I actually love them all, it keeps me active - and I seriously love cooking, it´s a whole new world! Plants give me pleasure, I take care of them and watch them grow, and when some dies I´m always sad - and I know it´s silly, I just can´t help it. Sometimes I talk to them
they never answer
I feel very creative when doing all of this - I actually stopped drawing when I started doing all these things - as well as writing. I feel more urge to read and educate myself than ever before - and also to work physically as to somehow relax from it all.
I also feel need to teach all this someone else - my kids maybe, one time - to teach them everything, I would like them to be better than I am, to know even more than I do.
Jennka, I think that you and I are pretty similar in certain ways- particularly in our sense of curiosity, relative egolessness, general respect for other people, and openness to varying points of view. That's why we get along. I feel comfortable posting with you, and I don't have to be worried about restrictions and adverse reactions & so forth. ![]()
For the most part, I try to free up as much time as possible so there are certain things that I don't do. I don't like doing chores, shopping, or running errands, so I minimize that. Outside of social drinking, I never drink or smoke on my own time. I never watch TV besides the occasional movie or mini-series that I clip off the net'. I put a premium on 'thinking time' when I'm at home.
I go hiking several times a year, but it's never because I want to go but rather that I 'have to' because I was invited. I'm too used to being in closed environments and have so little knowledge of nature, hunting, or construction skills that I am half-bored when I've at Bear Mountain or other places. I do like boating, kayaking, and swimming in the lakes and waterways though.
I know that learning how to enjoy the wilderness is a skill that I should eventually work on.