TheBaronOfFratton

Fucking calm down, Fluttershy. Jesus Christ.

lebanese eh? interesting, heard good things about them. From the ones I know of from the middle east Id go with persian women. I went after one for ages but she didnt pay me any attention, fair play to her, obviously she did have taste.

I understand she's quite famous down there in South America somewhere... Colombia?

I wish I was that teddy bear

And I fully understand your wish...

DIE NEIL ARMSTRONG :knives: I like the thought of being Moriarty. Have you seen the BBC's Sherlock mini-series. Their depiction of Moriarty was rather singular to put it in the words of Arthur Conan Doyle, but I did appreciate a navy Westwood suit and crisp white club collar shirt - clothes that every man needs...kinda. But I digress! I beg to differ. I think Manyoo actually have a very good chance to win this cup and it should be a good contest. I suspect Fergie will learn from last time and not be so zealous to get that early goal. Apparently Owen is playing as David Villa in training

What miniseries exactly though? theres a fantastic classic series from the 80s with jeremy brett who for my money plays the best sherlock holmes Ive ever seen. It was a grenada production, if you havent you should check it, same goes for the baron who I suspect must be a big sherlock fan. If you refer to the modern series where ***spoilers ahead**** sherlock is gay I only saw the first episode, didnt like it that much but perhaps Ill give it another shot.

This is a different beast, but I trust they'll be no more spoilers until I watch the other two?

Is it alright if we hide Sherlock spoilers like this? I really want to say something to firstonthemoon about the series. Feel free not to read it Baron

Psych.

^The game is afoot...

And just in case you guys have pets that won't be going to heaven, you can get Atheists (who have no souls) to look after them right here: http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/. Whoever knew Atheists would be so useful, even if they are uneducated.

Who do you think will win Baron?

Actually, as you'll know from my intermittent appearances on the 'Football' thread, the Champions League isn't something I follow particularly. I suppose, given Messi, Mascherano, and Milito's inclusion, I should support Barça - but everything in me wants to see them lose so everybody stops going on about how fabulous that team (and La Liga in general) are all the time - and for sure it would piss of Platini which is always a bonus. Plus I really don't like Piqué or Busquets. That's not to say there's much appealing about the likes of Scholes or Rooney either - but I suppose there'll be few more likeable anywhere on that pitch, or in football, than that honest grafter and paragon of virtue Ryan Giggs...

...Sorry what was that about an injunction? Who?

Oh.

Bollocks. :|

My dearest love. I found a video of your brother and cousin. Brings me great joy.

Come . . . play . . . wow!

Like a married couple aren't they?

The Rapture 2011: Kiss Your Ass Goodbye!

The end is nigh! Seriously kids, May 21st begins “The Rapture of 2011”. This is the day that Jesus H. Christ will come back to earth (but probably not Kentucky or Canada) and resurrect the dead bodies of true “saved” Christians while simultaneously lifting still living Christians into the air, plaguing the rest of us with earthquakes, floods, and locusts that will sting the shit out of us…FOR 5 FUCKING MONTHS! Beat that Chris Angel!

So there you have it. Harold Camping, the guy who mis-predicted the 1994 rapture has finally cracked the code…with math. So starting on the 21st of May we will have 5 months to enjoy amazing group sex, mind altering drugs, looting, and probably a Thelma and Louise style crime spree. I guess we may have time to repent and give our lives over to Christ, but instead, I’m going to make the most awesome rapture mixtape. I hope you do the same and share it with me, because what is an eternity of pure love and peace compared to 5 whole months without the morality shackles of religion?

BRING ON THE zombie apocalypse

It turned out that it was just that Bellazon went down for a few hours, and it clouded over here - if that counts? Actually, has anybody checked on Lima? I mean, if God was calling them up surely our Number One Angel, Head Angel, Everybody's Favourite Angel (®Lost_Soul), and general NO-ARGUMENTS-BEST-MODEL-EVER would have been first up there. Maybe we missed some subtle signs?

Whilst, naturally, religion is non-negotiable and completely safe from misinterpretation ( ) - science is a different beast, and nowhere near as 'set in stone'. Maybe your man just got the exact date a little wrong?

Either way, I can enjoy the playlist and carry on living in fear and thrall to any old holier-than-thou nutjob preaching this kind of scenario - until a scientist finally does fuck up and unleash that airborne toxic event which turns most of us into flesh-eating zombies which, to be honest, is much more likely...

Kids hope to attend party

The Rapture 2011: Kiss Your Ass Goodbye!

The end is nigh! Seriously kids, May 21st begins “The Rapture of 2011”. This is the day that Jesus H. Christ will come back to earth (but probably not Kentucky or Canada) and resurrect the dead bodies of true “saved” Christians while simultaneously lifting still living Christians into the air, plaguing the rest of us with earthquakes, floods, and locusts that will sting the shit out of us…FOR 5 FUCKING MONTHS! Beat that Chris Angel!

So there you have it. Harold Camping, the guy who mis-predicted the 1994 rapture has finally cracked the code…with math. So starting on the 21st of May we will have 5 months to enjoy amazing group sex, mind altering drugs, looting, and probably a Thelma and Louise style crime spree. I guess we may have time to repent and give our lives over to Christ, but instead, I’m going to make the most awesome rapture mixtape. I hope you do the same and share it with me, because what is an eternity of pure love and peace compared to 5 whole months without the morality shackles of religion?

BRING ON THE zombie apocalypse

^Well, after all that, I'm still here...

It turned out that it was just that Bellazon went down for a few hours, and it clouded over here - if that counts? Actually, has anybody checked on Lima? I mean, if God was calling them up surely our Number One Angel, Head Angel, Everybody's Favourite Angel (

I give you Canada's finest.

"I can't wait to put in in my mouth, down my crack, in my ass!...." <--- soulful lyrics right there.

See now you're obligated to watch it lol. Future serial killer right here folks. My prediction 38 male prostitutes found with genital mutilation. Just a theory.

Somebody give this m*therf*cker a Grammy already! (Still better then Rebecca Black )

This discussion and the discussion about "gypsies" is interesting, as outside of the USA, I have lived in Germany for a while-Berlin, Hamburg (ex is from Hamburg) area and traveled around East Asia. In Germany, I witnessed anti-American feeling relatively frequently and heard derogatory comments about "the Muslims". My ex was an upper class German, worked as an junior economist at the IMF, and had a lot of misguided class superiority beliefs that I ultimately found completely intolerable. I had a contact from a Dutch bank that often complained to me that the "Muslims" were causing trouble in his country. I know there is some anti-Japanese feeling in China, and some "superiority" beliefs among the Koreans and Japanese.

Americans are of many races, and I've never seen an incident of racism or racialist thinking in my life. But that is just my "local" experience. Classifying other people by their "blood" or cultures is strictly taboo in cities, corporate, firm, and university culture, or most of the Northeast USA. It's so taboo and socially unacceptable to even entertain it in a casual sense. I mean, from an American standpoint- I looked at all the posts you guys made with a curious raised eyebrow.. But I know that it is normal talk in other places.

In the United States, which is a country with 310 million people- or half the population of the EU ...there seems to be differences in character here and there. But the overriding divider in my view is the problem of income inequality largely exacerbated by the structure of the labor markets and the chaotic tax code - income inequality that resembles that of a developing country rather than a developed nation that spends the most disposable income per capita in the world. This basic element cradles the framework of social outcomes. I've seen this all my life. People get segregated by their social economic status and you can see "poor counties" next to "rich counties" in every state and so forth.

I myself am from an upper middle class background. I am also a capital markets guy, and frequently encounter, in various permutations, the morally & socially ambiguous nature of the financial services sector. As a child I grew up in a town which would be called "upper class" by German standards- 40% of the population were Chinese, Indian, South Korean, Jewish, Middle Eastern, 95% of the students in the public school system went on to university, 99% of graduating class @ my university found a job paying upper middle class or upper class starting salaries and saw subsequent economic success.

But the state of Art and casual culture is low- the primary driver of life is not in any religion, artform, traditional morals, and family but rather the "capitalist spirit/libertarian ethos/ Nietzsche's superman or "slave morality!"/ Rand's Galt" and "power and individual human achievement" so to speak. Men and Women work long hours in real careers and treated well if they can add to the bottom line- regardless of gender or tradition. Families are rich, but have no leisure time or time to eat together. That is what has replaced belief in God, family, or nationalism long ago. Is this a symptom of the hidden, unutterable characteristic of American political, economic, and military elite? That is correct..

Among the American Upper class and upper middle class, there is an enormous pressure among parents to rear their children towards education and autodidactic growth. Kids study day and night, and don't get a chance to be kids. Adults frequently have very expansive work experience doing different things at corporations/firms and a lot of advanced education. I spend about 70 hours a week doing activities that are related to making money, and so do everyone else. Doing "work", in or outside the workplace for 60 hours or 70 a week is average. Many people put in 80, even 90 hours a week into their careers. The American work ethic and efficiency is similar to that of the German upper classes but with much longer commitments.

There are consequences to all this. Stress related health problems- mental and physical are very common. People have no real hobbies and often have undiverse, robotic personalities. American women shed traditional roles and become the same as men in terms of competitive attitude, demeanor, and strictness. The analytical abilities & intelligence of individuals is high, but their contribution to the liberal arts and culture is low. People question what they're chasing, and then drown these questions away with lavish consumption and high end travel & entertainment.

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All this inequality has, in my experience, created certain "unutterable" quasi-classes of people over here. The American "superclass"- billionaries and hundreds, tens of millionaires have become a micro class onto itself. Then there is normal millionaires and the upper middle class which form a large class of people. Then there's the large middle- and lower middle class that encompassing half of the population. The working class. The poor & unemployed. There is a lot of liquidity among these classes- and a lot more than in most countries- people from poor backgrounds become wealthy or the wealthy become middle class and so forth..but the basic structure has retained itself and the political organisms that exist throw table scraps at this social problem.

I had this conversation about racism in USA with Joe in pm´s, and agree with FirstontheMoon, because that´s what I´ve heard from many Americans. Don´t live there, so won´t say nothing more.

^Never, it's nice to read people's opinions here - as well as gawking at beautiful ladies!

Do you all learn another language in school to counteract the fact that "no one gives a shit" about yours?

As for the gypsies, I see and read this wherever I go in Europe. It does come across as one-way traffic, sure. But then you read about the victimisation and prejudices against gypsies and you wonder where this has all come from? I mean, there must be a reason behind it all... As it is my great-grandparents were Romany gypsies, and my great-grandfather made money by bare-knuckle boxing in bars - my grandfather turned his back on his parents lifestyle when he met and married my grandmother, a 'gadje' (or non-gypsy). So, like I said, I see and read this - but although that blood runs thinly in me, still it beats.

Baron, my father is 3/4 gypsy himself (but I think he´s a whole gypsy it´s just that his mother was white )got married with my mother, who is just so really white and wtf, my sister gets brown in no time, and I´m more like my mother, more white than brown... it´s pissing me off he had a hard life himself, with an arogant, agressive father, beating the hell out of him - so when 18, he fought with his father and actually overcharged him for the first time - his father kicked his ass out of the house and my father got to work so to earn his living and give something to the rest of his family. He built his life out of nothing, went to the obligatory military service that took 2 years by then, then got to a police academy, studied doctor of Laws and many years later, ended up as the director of the Authority for the protection of constitutional officials...and some years later, he was given the general title by president and named the president of the police force in Slovakia.

So, when someone says "I can´t live a better life, I had a miserable childhood, was born a gypsy and taken as a gypsy" I show them my father, born in a little village that no one knew anything about it before, to a despotic father, gypsy himself, and if HE could do it, you can too.

As for the language, I guess it´s exactly because of that people here are proud to know languages, some schools are entirely billingual, or with even more languages - french, english, spanish, we have many language schools from japanesse to russian... especially in Bratislava. But we are also proud when it comes to Slovak language - I too consider it beautiful. And proud to be Slovak of course, which is a big problem for many people... to be a "proud Slovak". I think our nation still needs some time to gather its national pride. We were occupied for so long that, as a nation, it´s hard to gather the self-confidence again. But I have hope

Jennka this reminded me of a conversation I had with my friends some time ago.

I remember when I visited Slovakia, it seemed to me like every 10th person (or even more) was a Gypsy. We have them too, but not as many, especially since all these Schengen zone regulations.

The sad truth is, that the only 'good' Gypsies I've heard about/seen were the ones on tv, and let's be honest, there weren't that many of them. Every Gypsy I've seen/known in person was 'bad'. Bad as being unemployed by choice, thieves and shameless beggars. The worst thing, an unfortunately not so uncommon sight is Gypsy women with children begging for money on trams. They start singing, or rather moaning in awful voices and beg you for 'money for food'. And I've heard of examples when people, who actually had foor with them to offer these beggars, well.... they (Gypsies) didn't take them. Suspicious eh? These kids can also be quite aggresive. There was this article from a high profile magazine I've read a few years ago about how they are organized. There are some men controlling the whole business. They send women with small children to beg for money, and unfortunately, despite adverts on trams and buses to NOT give money to people who ask them people are so naive they give some money. And as these Gypsies go to several trams each day, then you can imagine they manage to get quite a lot of money 'for food'. So much that they live in better conditions than one would think. Oh and in the mentioned article there was this begging strategy described. Women are usually given not their children, and not older than 6 years old (older ones are send to wash windows of people's cars on busy roads; they clean them when all cars are stopped at red light very often, they start doing it even if no one agreed to let them do it) but preferably babies. And these babies are given bottled milk with aspirin, so that aspiring will make them sleep=no crying while begging for money.

What I've written might have sounded racist but that's how it is. I know that every nationality has people they can pride in and others are well, social parasites.... but I've never known a Gypsy person, excluding the ones you see on tv that I could say anything nice about.

I know many normal gypsies myself, but yeah, it´s minority compared to all those types you wrote about. It´s better in cities and worse in the villages, lot of crime caused by gypsies there, people frightened to leave their houses in the late evening hours and so... I hate racism and don´t care about the skin colour or religion... but this IS a real problem that has to be solved, and NOT by violence as some of the idiots here insist. The only thing that needs to be changed is our social system.

^I suspect that under those burkas and other bedsheets of female empowerment all Middle Eastern women are just as gorgeous (I lived in Qatar for 5 years and they kept them well hidden there); but Lebanon combined that whole mystique of these desert roses with Parisien chic. I spent a wonderful 3 months in Beirut 'relaxing' after I graduated University and my head was constantly craing as yet another knockout flowed past me... :wub2:

yes, Im very fond of middle eastern women. Theres this gorgeous israeli actress, Hiam Abbass, whom I adore. She has the perfect blend of sophistication, natural elegance/class and kindness. Watch her in movies like The visitor, great, great movie and shes lovely in it. My mother's best friend was a beirut expat who studied in Oxford, and amongst sons and daughters of royalty she stood out as distinguished and elegant.

red_ed You're underrating a bit United and Ferguson while overrating our chances for the final in a clear non sequitur, but its understandable dont want to derail Baron's thread, we should probably take this to the football thread or forum, if theres such a thing, though to be honest Im not that interested. I think we both should look at this instead and feel the horror as a shared experience that will unite scousers and mancs

Oh but there is a football thread here! Though there isn't much in the way of activity Feel free to pop by though

Your comments are preposterous. I would never underrate United - I give them a lot more credit than they deserve actually :trout: and I would never overrate them - they're overrated enough as it is :trout: In fact, you have it the other way around. You're overrating them and underrating them in the finals! :p

I hope they'll be some WILD WOMEN at the finals :|

Better use of planking.

hey B, hope you ahd a smashing weekend my friend

MORNINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG B, thought the GIF below suited, found it with a conversation in mind lolll