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#1241

A PM conversation I had with FD:

 

 

Perhaps is Dominocity a poster named Refaelishop who got banned? I remember the latter from back in the day and this Domino person acts the same way...


Now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised. I will take investigate on this soon

Was something in particular that raised a red flag for you?

 


The whole constantly posting pics from bus stops. Saying things that'll obviously annoy people. I just went into Refaeli's thread for the first time in a long long time and as soon as I read a couple of Domino's posts I recognized this person immediately.

 


I looked into some of dominocity IPs:

dominocity (simcardcity@walla.co.il; 01/21/12 @ 05:54 PM)
79.182.20.216 (Reg with this IP; Used 18; Last: 02/02/2012 @ 02:27 PM )
ISP: Bezeq International
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Israel

109.64.4.8 (Used 2; Last 04/20/14 @ 3:23 AM)
ISP: Bezeq International
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Israel

82.166.119.196 (Used 76; Last: 04/18/14 @ 07:21 AM)
ISP: NetVision
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Dynamic IP
Israel

84.111.134.25 (Used 53; 04/16/14 @ 12:57 PM)
ISP: Bezeq International
Services: None detected
Type: N/A
Assignment: Static IP
Tel Aviv, Israel

62.0.1.62 (Used 45; 04/08/14 @ 8:49 AM)
ISP: NetVision
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Tel Aviv, Israel
Shares IP With: mypicture.co.il (sales@mypicture.co.il), refaelishop (refaelishop@gmail.com)

79.177.121.76 (Used 11; 03/25/14 @ 05:41 PM)
ISP: Bezeq International
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Tel Aviv, Israel

46.120.97.65 (Used 1; 02/12/14 @ 10:53 AM)
ISP: Golden Lines Cable
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Tel Aviv, Israel

81.218.183.66 (Used 719; 02/07/14 @ 02:22 PM)
ISP: Bezeq International
Services: None detected
Type: N/A
Assignment: Static IP
Israel
Shares IP With: ienergy (ienergy@walla.co.il)

80.250.158.201 (Used 1; 02/02/14 @ 09:47 AM)
ISP: NetVision
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Israel

212.179.222.44 (Used 1; 01/30/14 @ 12:43 PM)
ISP: Bezeq International
Organization: IACTCOM
Services: None detected
Type: N/A
Assignment: Static IP
Tel Aviv, Israel

194.90.46.130 (used 2; 01/19/14 @ 01:25 PM)
ISP: NetVision
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Tel Aviv, Israel

94.188.247.243 (Used 2; 01/02/14 @ 02:32 PM)
ISP: Internet Binat Ltd
Services: None detected
Type: N/A
Assignment: Static IP
Tel Aviv, Israel

217.194.205.188 (Used 2; 12/07/13 @ 12:37 PM)
ISP: SkyVision Global Networks Ltd
Organization: Safelines Ltd.
Services: None detected
Type: N/A
Assignment: Static IP
Israel

91.135.102.175 (Used 4l 12/02/13 @ 09:49 AM)
ISP: Pelephone Communications Ltd.
Services: None detected
Type: Wireless Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Israel

147.235.8.37 (Used 13; 11/22/13 @ 05:27 AM)
ISP: Historical Class B block for Israel
Organization: Bezek
Services: None detected
Type: N/A
Assignment: Static IP
Israel

81.218.170.133 (Used 39; 06/26/13 @ 03:06 AM)
ISP: Bezeq International
Services: None detected
Type: N/A
Assignment: Static IP
Israel
Shares IP With: ienergy

199.203.84.133 (Used 9; 05/27/13 @ 07:58 AM)
ISP: Elron Technologies
Organization: Teva
Services: Likely mail server
Type: Corporate
Assignment: Static IP

84.94.102.97 (Used 31; 09/02/12 @ 12:27 AM)
ISP: Golden Lines Cable
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
HaMerkaz, Israel
Shares IP With: ienergy

2.55.136.157 (Used 1; 08/17/12 @ 06:01 AM)
ISP: Orange Israel
Services: None detected
Type: Wireless Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Tel Aviv, Israel

37.26.144.240 (Used 1; 07/25/12 @ 12:48 AM)
ISP: Golan Telecom Ltd.
Services: None detected
Type: Wireless Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Israel

 

All three members linked to dominocity were previously banned:
ienergy - Bar fan. Warned 3x by 3 different staffs member for baiting, bashing, and directing insult & profane language against a staff member.
mypicture.co.il - Bar fan. Warned for baiting and trolling (multiple accounts - linked to refaelishop)
refaelishop - Bar fan. Warned 4x for baiting and posting pornographic materials

 

I think it is safe to say all four are the same person Anyone have any comments or thought before I ban dominocity?

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#1242

Buh byes dominocity

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#1243

Just had a quiet word with the user SuicideBrunette about soliciting for a TFS membership in GenTalk. Hopefully, she takes heed.

I also had a talk with them, because they created some duplicate model threads and I told them to please use the search thing before creating a thread and she said okay.

 

Now she is creating new model threads, but she isnt posting any stats or information ( as in modeling agency, etc.) in their threads, so I also told her to try to do that as well

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#1244

I also had a talk with them, because they created some duplicate model threads and I told them to please use the search thing before creating a thread and she said okay.

 

Now she is creating new model threads, but she isnt posting any stats or information ( as in modeling agency, etc.) in their threads, so I also told her to try to do that as well

 

We may have our hands full with this one.

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#1245

^Seems like it!

 

Was Bast banned or? Saw this in Martha Hunt's thread:

 

Bridgeburner(IP: 72.129.235.28)

New Comer

Posted Yesterday, 02:06 AM

energizer358, on 15 Apr 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:snapback.png

Mmmmmartha looking good. By the way, I used to post as redxv. That name stopped working on bellazon.com for some reason. So, this is my new name.


That is interesting, I guess it wasn't just me then. I used to post as Bast but that name stopped working for me as well. For two months I tried to access the forums like I normally had before, and I got nothing but an error page. Then finally about a week ago I tried pulling up the forums and it worked, only anytime I tried to login under my name it would then give me the same error page. So needless to say, I made a new account, and now the forums work for me most of the time, unless it's the middle of the night (my time). I wonder what is going on, and if this happened to anybody else? Anyway, this is obviously my new name as well, and I am very glad to be back, because I missed out on many amazing new updates with all of my favorite models, Martha being at the top of that list. I guess that was the silver lining in all of this, getting weeks worth of updates all at once for all the models I follow.
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#1246

^ I have insights & additional info about this but I have been working at Marathon events since early this AM. I am feeling dead tired I also have a minor medical procedure tomorrow. Just hold off on this for now. Thanks!

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#1247

^Ohh thats right the Boston Marathon How did you do?

 

Either way thats awesome girl

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#1248

IP ban. Bast is back   Bridgeburner (IP: 72.129.235.28)

New Comer

 

Posted Yesterday, 05:06 AM

energizer358, on 15 Apr 2014 - 08:52 AM, said:snapback.png

Mmmmmartha looking good. By the way, I used to post as redxv. That name stopped working on bellazon.com for some reason. So, this is my new name.

That is interesting, I guess it wasn't just me then. I used to post as Bast but that name stopped working for me as well. For two months I tried to access the forums like I normally had before, and I got nothing but an error page

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#1249

All there were already banned. Bast, along with trends, were banned for trolling in Feb: http://www.bellazon.com/main/topic/26654-member-management/?p=3368335. energizer358, redxv and Baggot on 04/15/14: http://www.bellazon.com/main/topic/26654-member-management/?p=3399222

 

THL PM'ed me last night about Bridgeburner being a troll so I banned him b/c ALL of his IP Addresses matches Bast's. Something else related I found:
 

champagnebrulee (hereforthis123@yahoo.com; Reg: 09/19/13)
128.12.253.132 (Used this IP to reg; Used 247; Last Used on 12/12/13 on 11:01 PM)
ISP: Stanford University
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Stanford, CA

128.12.253.151 (Used 161; Last used: 04/16/14 @ 11:12 PM)
ISP: Stanford University
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Stanford, CA

171.65.238.4 (Used 7; 04/16/14 @ 11:17 AM)
ISP: Stanford University
Services: Suspected network sharing device
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Stanford, CA

99.98.231.50 (Used 58; 03/28/14 @ 06:20 PM)
ISP: AT&T U-verse
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Olathe, KS
Shares IP With: iceandfire (iceandfireking@gmail.com)

166.137.191.38 (Used 1; 01/18/14 @ 01:03 PM)
ISP: AT&T Wireless
Services: Confirmed proxy server
Type: Wireless Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Danville, CA

166.137.191.37 (Used 1; 01/11/14 @ 01:03 PM)
ISP: AT&T Wireless
Services: Confirmed proxy server
Type: Wireless Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Danville, CA
 

166.147.104.21
ISP: AT&T Wireless
Services: Confirmed proxy server
Type: Wireless Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Kansas City, Mo
Shares IP With: Bridgeburner, Bast

 

I know she was having some issue with logging on with her phone. Planning to PM her to see what she has to say.

 

Thoughts? Comments?

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I never understood the frequency uh huh
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#1250

Received this from the member Luis Gonzalo via PM today...
 

I have just received this threatening warning (see below) Last warning? I have not received any previous warnings. Please explain. Thank you

Last warning [3x] souf
Sent Today, 01:41 AM
This is your last warning, if you keep posting old pics on the topics you'll have your account banned, thats your last warning, thank you.


I am always careful and considerate not to copy a previous post. I may have made some mistakes I was not aware of. However if somebody had warned me before I would have been extra carefully, but I didn't expect such an unreasonable statement, with an outright lie, no previous warnings. I certainly hope it wasn't from the administrators. Remember this is a voluntary membership and I would not want to continue with such impolite group.This should be friendly group and not Hoxa's Albania.
 
thank you, Luis

 

I sent a reply to Luis, reassuring him that souf is not in fact an admin (if in doubt, always ask to see a badge ). Also PMed souf asking him to stop contacting members directly about things he doesn't like the look of, and to report any issues to a member of staff in future.

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#1251
Thankfully not as bad as the dirtbags we had pretending to be model scouts , but we'll definitely keep an eye on that one. 
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We've got an old school BZ jerk on our hands . A member named Brazilian223 who has less than a hundred posts randomly made these comments unsolicited to eddiwaldo (who I've never known to have issues with anyone?) in the Carla Ossa thread... "This s**t has to stop, you probably just spend your whole day looking at porn on the computer ect." No one replied to him, but it was so bad that a second party reported it. I say 'old school BZ jerk' because there's nothing subjective or potentially misunderstood about it, just straight forward one and thus I skipped the unofficial warning and just gave him a two week suspension, warning and pm. If he chooses to heed and read the rules in that time, good. If he decides not to come back or read them, we lose nothing. If he comes back doing the same, we know where to go from there. 
 
*edit* Well, he used the N word, so I accelerated to ban . He had this to say to eddiwaldo as well...
 

"damn man whats up with all the blacks at Bonprix? I mean I am not racist or anything. but my gosh why so many n****** on everything? Lascana,venus,bonprix, it makes me sick to look for Carla or Gio pics to see some Gorilla looking b**** in lingerie. Guess Obama brought out all the damn n*****? don't get me wrong I served this country 11 years and retired a gunnery sergeant in the Marine Corps. I live half a year in the US and the other in Brazil. for f**** sake and for the worlds, everybody should tell bonprix black is not beautiful. why the hell can't they put Carla or Gio in everything? come on who the hell wants to see some nigger in Lingerie? here in Brazil you won't see a nigger in lingerie thank god. too god damn bad we did send those n***** back to Africa since they want to call themselves African American. I seen how the fucks do things. they where always in the brig. sorry I am just pissed and f***** tired of seeing n***** when I could be seeing Carla and Gio."

 
I originally said I'd leave that type to a second party in order to remain objective, but not a lot of room for interpretation on that one
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#1252

Absolutely repellent post. Whoever this guy is, we're well shot of him. Great work Joe. (Y)

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#1253

I received a PM from pheiress

 

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 pheiress (IP: 71.47.23.98 )

Sent Today, 11:27 AM
Hello! You gave me a "warning" pack in 2012 and I was hoping that you would please remove it. It was for supposedly having duplicate accounts but that actually never happened, I have only ever had this one. I'm not sure what happened back then that made it look like I had more than one -- I know that at one point I attempted to change usernames, but it didn't work out. I was suspended for 5 days and the system wouldn't even let me respond to the warning to explain this at the time. If you could be so kind as to remove the warning I would really appreciate it. Thanks so much.

B.

 

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--- Back we Pinky caught her, she had these two accounts.  How would you like to proceed? Note I question why after her 5 day suspension was over she made no attempt in two years to contact us till just now.

 

Florida
97.100.21.45
paddywhacked (1)
pheiress (1)

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#1254

^ If I remember correctly she had more than 2 additional accounts but I don't have the document I made of all the multiple accounts we have banned b/c I am at work. Also all her accounts had a similar style of posting---that was how we figured out she had more than one account.

 

I will take a look again soon

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#1255

That's what I thought

I sent her a PM telling her I'd speak to the staff about it and get back to her. Also I sent you a PM Pinky

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#1256
I got a message from a member I suspended asking me to give them another chance because 'they love fashion, meant no harm but don't know good English.' I gave this response...

 

"I suspended you to get your attention because I've seen this path to banishment before and post disabling gets member's attention 99.9% of the time. I gave you a long suspension, but shortening it will depend on you proving your understanding of the following. Do know that if you express an understanding of the following, you will also receive less leniency in the future. This should be considered. 

 

Nudity

 

Nudity as is defined by bellazon rules is visible female nipples (whether bare or easily seen through clothing) and pubic areas of either males or females. When updated a few years ago, bare bottoms were allowed to be posted. 

 

How to post nude images

 

If in doubt, do without. However, the way to post nudity in compliance with the rules is to upload the pictures to a free imagehost site and post a link of the picture rather than 

the actual picture. You can either select a link or erase the URL brackets to create a link. After this, title the pictures with a heading of "Warning: Nudity" 

 

Hotlinking 

 

Hotlinking is when you post an image with the url from the actual site within the image tags, taking from the sites bandwidth. In order to avoid this, upload the picture to our attachments or to a free image host site. 

 

What is your native language? If you don't understand any of this, let me know and I will try to translate it."

 

In light of the fact that I'm only truly fluent in three languages (none of which is this person's and I'm not sure what could be lost in translation with a google translator), if there are any suggestions as to how this could be said in less words, it would be a help

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#1257

Bast, along with trends, were banned for trolling in Feb: http://www.bellazon.com/main/topic/26654-member-management/?p=3368335.

Out of interest, is someone able to explain this situation to me? I don't really get it.
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#1258

^ He was exhibiting troll-like behaviors and when we checked his account we discovered was using a proxy. That's my understanding of the situation. Maybe some other staff member has more to add?

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#1259

What exactly constitutes trolling around here? And why is using a proxy, or even using multiple accounts an instant ban situation, rather than the warning/mod watch protocol?

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#1260

In addition to general trolling like baiting, bashing and flaming, it also involves multiple accounts, concealing relevant info about yourself and/or falsifying your identity.

 

Using a proxy isn't against the rule but if it is a proxy that is flagged as a SPAM source or is inconsistent with the member's other IP information, that is when we investigate. As for multiple accounts, it is self-explanatory why there is a one account per person policy, no?

 

The only time we do instant bans are with spammers. Other than that we usually investigate first. Using Bast as an example, there were reports about him exhibiting suspicious behaviors. We looked into his account and monitored his behavior for awhile until we banned him. In other words he was not instantly banned Another good example is LMS. It took us about a year before banning her. She was contacted numerous times by different staff members about her multiple accounts and basic rule violations. We gave her many opportunities to improve her behavior but she refused. I think she even told someone we wouldn't ban her b/c she is popular

 

Even if someone does have more than once account, as long as they provide a logical reason, apologize and never do it again, we let it slide. FashionDream is a perfect example. We found out she had another account, we asked her about it, she admitted to it, apologized for her misjudgment and promised to never do it again. She is still here and everything is all good with her

 

Hope this clarifies things for you

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