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Guys, what do you think about this one?

http://news.yahoo.com/mo-teen-gets-life-po...-141938731.html

Mo. teen gets life with possible parole in killing

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — A Missouri teenager who had described the slaying of a young neighbor girl as an "ahmazing" thrill made an emotional apology Wednesday to the girl's family and was sentenced to a potential lifetime in prison.

Moments before her sentence was imposed, 18-year-old Alyssa Bustamante rose from her chair — with shackles linking her ankles and holding her hands to her waist — and turned to face the family of 9-year-old Elizabeth Olten, whom she confessed to killing in October 2009.

"I really am extremely, very sorry for everything. I know words," she said, pausing to take a deep breath and struggling to compose herself, "can never be enough, and they can never adequately describe how horribly I feel for all of this."

She later added: "If I could give my life to get her back I would. I'm sorry."

Elizabeth's mother, Patty Preiss, who on the first day of Bustamante's sentencing hearing called her an "evil monster" and declared "I hate her," sat silently, staring forward as Bustamante's finished her apology.

Cole County Circuit Judge Pat Joyce then sentenced Bustamante to the maximum possible sentence for second-degree murder — life in prison with the possibility of parole. She ordered the teenager to serve a consecutive 30-year term for armed criminal action, a charge resulting from her use of a knife to slit the throat and stab Elizabeth after she had strangled her into unconsciousness.

Elizabeth's family declined to comment about the sentencing, as did Bustamante's family.

There were no immediate indications that Bustamante planned to appeal the sentence.

Bustamante originally had been charged with first-degree murder but pleaded guilty last month to the lesser charges to avoid a trial and the possibility of spending her life in an adult prison with no chance of release.

Bustamante was 15 years old at the time of Elizabeth's murder in the small town of St. Martins, just west of Jefferson City. Evidence presented during her hearing revealed that Bustamante had dug a shallow grave in the woods several days in advance, then used her younger sister to lure Elizabeth out of her home with an invitation to play. Bustamante, who had hidden a knife in a backpack, said she had a surprise for Elizabeth in the forest. The surprise turned out to be her demise.

During her two-day sentencing hearing, prosecutors referred repeatedly to an entry Bustamante wrote in her journal on Oct. 21, 2009 — the night of Elizabeth's death — in which she admitted to having just killed someone.

"I strangled them and slit their throat and stabbed them now they're dead," Bustamante wrote in her diary, which was read in court by a handwriting expert. "I don't know how to feel atm. It was ahmazing. As soon as you get over the 'ohmygawd I can't do this' feeling, it's pretty enjoyable. I'm kinda nervous and shaky though right now. Kay, I gotta go to church now...lol."

Bustamante then left for a youth dance at a Mormon church her family attended while hundreds of volunteers began a two-day hunt for the dead girl. Although she initially lied to authorities about Elizabeth's whereabouts, Bustamante eventually confessed to police and led them to Elizabeth's leaf-covered shallow grave.

Defenses attorneys had argued for leniency after presenting evidence from family members and mental health experts about Bustamante's troubled childhood. Bustamante was born to teenage, drug-abusing parents; her father was imprisoned and her mother abandoned her, leaving her in the legal custody of her grandmother.

After a suicide attempt on Labor Day 2007 as she was starting eighth grade, Bustamante was prescribed the antidepressant Prozac. Her dosage had been increased just two weeks before Elizabeth's death. A defense psychiatrist testified that the medication could have made Bustamante moodier and more violent and contributed to the murder — a theory rejected by a different psychiatrist testifying for prosecutors.

Charlie Moreland, one of Bustamante's attorneys, described the sentence imposed Wednesday as "a harsh punishment."

"This was a child who had been spiraling out of control, but has treatable conditions," Moreland said.

Under Missouri guidelines, Bustamante would have to serve 35 years and 5 months in prison before she is eligible for parole, said Department of Corrections spokesman Chris Cline. It's also possible that the more than two years Bustamante spent in jail while awaiting her sentencing could be counted toward that time.

After spending several weeks at a diagnostic prison, Bustamante could be placed in either one of Missouri's two female prisons or sent out of state. Cline said department officials also would evaluate whether Bustamante should be kept separate from other adult woman inmates.

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Thats a crazy story! I was watching this program the other day. It was a program listing the 20 most violent crimes of kids under 18 years old. Within 30 secs i was glued to it, some of the crimes were insane, such malicious attacks. Some of the attackers where as young as 10 years old who were stabbing or shooting these people :|

It begs the question what is prison for these days, punishment or rehabilitation. Always tricky. Should have a good balance of both in my opinion. But it seems more and more these days that the latter goes unnoticed.

I dunno if you were ever familiar with Roy & HG, but they used to do radio commentary on the grand finals every year - it was always good fun to have that on with the TV sound down. They ripped the piss out of him that year

You know Joe, as a side note, ugly musicians, or ugly actors, or ugly businessmen... have money. And money, in many women´s eyes can make you look like Brad Pitt.

wow Baron nice avi/set.

Joe, do you know who this is?

They have even stronger cold in Russia and Canada, (and other parts of the world) so... no need to feel like an idiot

Definitely. Limer and Sweet rus would tell us more about it :morning:

^Good luck in waiting for Limey to read somebody else's thread and take the time to reply to a query!

It's been unseasonably warm here actually I don't like it.

And I only come to Bz when someone summons me here now

wow Baron nice avi/set.

And I only come to Bz when someone summons me here now

wow Baron nice avi/set.

Has it really been that long

And I only come to Bz when someone summons me here now

^"Summons" you? You're a member of a community - not a bloody genie! <_<

I make wishes come true

Yeah, for sure. Seems to be a dying breed, but you still get the odd guy like that. What they may lack in skills and ability, they makes up for with effort and grit. Things like that can really spur a team on and inspire passion in the fans.

Seems the top end of players is about the same for our two games, but they start earlier in AFL. Players don't generally peak til the 22-26 age range, but they usually start out playing senior games as 17/18 year olds. It's quite interesting to follow the progression of these younger players, both in terms of how they pick up the game to how they develop physically. Some of them are skinny as hell when they start out

Well he's 34/35 now, so he's well and truly past it. Most guys give it up around the 30 mark, but some push on for a few years. He often played on the edge, and liked the throw his weight around a bit.. and being that as it was, he was the center of more than a few on-field 'incidents' (the one I posted was the worst of them). He ended up having to leave his club mid-season after their disciplinary efforts failed The next year another team picked him up though, and he played out the last couple of years of his career there. Despite his rather thuggish reputation though, he was still one of the great forwards of his generation. Apparently he's always been a bit of a boxing enthusiast, and always intended to pick it up post-football (or indeed during <_<).. who knows how he's going to fare though.

Yeah, if someone less talented than you is giving their all, that's a sure sign that you need to haul arse . Good point about insiring passion in the fans too since its easier to relate to someone you think loves the game as much as you than someone just doing it only for a pay check and or because they can . My next step needs to be to choose a team. Along the theme of seeing how guys develop physically, I think I might just pick and support the worst team and see how they go from there.

Joe, do you know who this is?

http://i40.tinypic.com/f3tmpf.gif

Well, you already got my pm but good to see you anyway .

Adele with pink hair? what do you think, Joe?

I like it although its Stepford wife blonde now of course.

It's an honour to be on the list Joe! I don't think I'm a hater by nature, it's just that Cheryl's voice carries a certain involuntary physical cringe factor for me.

I noticed you were as fair as you could be with your assessments, but its a hard subject to pass up at the same time . Her voice is pretty annoying though and she has a blandness about her that I find off putting somewhat like a manican or something.

What does mean "Brady threw the only interception in a close game" Joe??

It´s ok, it´s an awful thing anyway, really... I was just so shocked that I needed to share it with somebody!!

Sure thing and thanks for understanding, although as predicted someone quoted the whole thing anyway . As to the interception thing, I mean turnovers have huge implications on a game, especially if the game is close. That game came down to the wire and he threw the only interception in the game. The types of turnovers are a fumble whereby you either drop the ball, someone physically takes it or you drop it and are then caused to lose it. An interception on the other hand is where the quarterback throws the ball and one of the defensive players gets it instead of his receiver and the one he threw was the only one in the game. I think you might have that in hockey too when someone's passing the black thing and the other team gets it though you might just call it a plain turnover or a steal maybe. It should also be said that he has the best offensive line in the game as well as the other team's pass rush is the best in the league and barely touched him.

You know Joe, as a side note, ugly musicians, or ugly actors, or ugly businessmen... have money. And money, in many women´s eyes can make you look like Brad Pitt. Imagine Steven Tyler on a street or working as a waiter - how many women would call him "hot"? How many would try to meet him or date him? No matter how great he would sing to them

Fame and money can do nasty things - or rather, people can be a nasty creatues when it goes to fame and money

Yeah, you're definitely right there. I guess that stems from it being more socially accepted to use a man for his money whereas a man is more likely to be ridiculed for using a woman for hers. I just don't see the point of all the pretense to sugar coat it. I guess maybe deep down inside they're ashamed but its hard to admit maybe. On a brighter note, I'm making some strides in the drawing thing. I've started with animals though I'm not sure why I never thought of that before .

And I only come to Bz when someone summons me here now

^"Summons" you? You're a member of a community - not a bloody genie! <_<

I make wishes come true

That this is not on my thread, or addresses that whole bunch of responses and previous posts of mine that you've just ignored, remains my sadness - but then I've still got two more wishes right?

Adele with pink hair? what do you think, Joe?

I like it although its Stepford wife blonde now of course.

Ahhh I liked her hair at the Grammys, she looked gorgeous. I also love her new Vogue US editorial, just wish the cover was not so bland. I'd buy the issue with her if I was in the States

I should probably learn to scan and then I could scan it and other things to post .

Two names you have to live up to as a model

2. Zuzana - what a name its just got it all. Easy to pronounce yet exotic and packs a punch and has a hint of mystery to it. If you're a model with that name, you definitely need to be hot.

1. Anastasia - by contrast, has more of an air of enchantment and wonder to it so you're expected to be pretty if you're a model with that name.

Two much less beautiful names you might have to be hot, talented or awesome in some other way to overcome

2. Gretchen

1. Ursula

Two favorite German Songs

2. Rock You Like a Hurricane

1. Elf King

Two home videos that could make me famous on Youtube (fame without fortune is a nightmare of mine as a side note)

2. How to count cards when dealing

1. Fat black guy does the Beyonce dance better than Beyonce

Two Animals That Scare Me The Most

2. Komodo Dragon - I always tried to think positive by saying at least the python or anaconda isn't poisonous, but the fact that that big joker is poisonous too just doesn't seem fair .

1. Turkey

Two Places I Will Not Have Sex No Matter Who It Is

2. In a building where anyone in my family is

1. A bathroom no matter how clean

Weirdest Things I Don't Get But Will Comply With

2. Being whipped

1. Being handcuffed

Most Popular Things To Buy With a Fortune That Don't Interrest Me

2. Expensive luxury cars - sports cars I definitely understand on the other hand

1. Mansions - I'd actually rather have a regular house with a lot of land, maybe even a log cabin getaway on the side somewhere. Now a castle deep in the woods would be pretty cool though, I could get with that for sure.

And I only come to Bz when someone summons me here now

^"Summons" you? You're a member of a community - not a bloody genie! <_<

I make wishes come true

I guess no one rubbed the lamp for a long time, eh? :evil: when you lower yourself to come to other peoples´ threads

Genies are always tricky anyway... !!

Thats a crazy story! I was watching this program the other day. It was a program listing the 20 most violent crimes of kids under 18 years old. Within 30 secs i was glued to it, some of the crimes were insane, such malicious attacks. Some of the attackers where as young as 10 years old who were stabbing or shooting these people :|

It begs the question what is prison for these days, punishment or rehabilitation. Always tricky. Should have a good balance of both in my opinion. But it seems more and more these days that the latter goes unnoticed.

I do not really believe in rehabilitation of such people damn, if someone is able to kill in teen years what the hell is going to grown in??

I dunno if you were ever familiar with Roy & HG, but they used to do radio commentary on the grand finals every year - it was always good fun to have that on with the TV sound down. They ripped the piss out of him that year

^Yeah, I remember those guys! (Y)

You know Joe, as a side note, ugly musicians, or ugly actors, or ugly businessmen... have money. And money, in many women´s eyes can make you look like Brad Pitt.

^Whores.

And worse!!

wow Baron nice avi/set.

Joe, do you know who this is?

lovely

Sure thing and thanks for understanding, although as predicted someone quoted the whole thing anyway . As to the interception thing, I mean turnovers have huge implications on a game, especially if the game is close. That game came down to the wire and he threw the only interception in the game. The types of turnovers are a fumble whereby you either drop the ball, someone physically takes it or you drop it and are then caused to lose it. An interception on the other hand is where the quarterback throws the ball and one of the defensive players gets it instead of his receiver and the one he threw was the only one in the game. I think you might have that in hockey too when someone's passing the black thing and the other team gets it though you might just call it a plain turnover or a steal maybe. It should also be said that he has the best offensive line in the game as well as the other team's pass rush is the best in the league and barely touched him.

Hmmm these bloody game rulez! But I think I know what you mean

Yeah, you're definitely right there. I guess that stems from it being more socially accepted to use a man for his money whereas a man is more likely to be ridiculed for using a woman for hers. I just don't see the point of all the pretense to sugar coat it. I guess maybe deep down inside they're ashamed but its hard to admit maybe. On a brighter note, I'm making some strides in the drawing thing. I've started with animals though I'm not sure why I never thought of that before .

Oh, animals can you show me some of your attempts? And which animals do you like to draw?

I think that using someone for money is equally gross if it´s either man or woman... agree.

Random Top 2s

Two names you have to live up to as a model

2. Zuzana - what a name its just got it all. Easy to pronounce yet exotic and packs a punch and has a hint of mystery to it. If you're a model with that name, you definitely need to be hot.

1. Anastasia - by contrast, has more of an air of enchantment and wonder to it so you're expected to be pretty if you're a model with that name.

Two much less beautiful names you might have to be hot, talented or awesome in some other way to overcome

2. Gretchen

1. Ursula

Two favorite German Songs

2. Rock You Like a Hurricane

1. Elf King

Two home videos that could make me famous on Youtube (fame without fortune is a nightmare of mine as a side note)

2. How to count cards when dealing

1. Fat black guy does the Beyonce dance better than Beyonce

Two Animals That Scare Me The Most

2. Komodo Dragon - I always tried to think positive by saying at least the python or anaconda isn't poisonous, but the fact that that big joker is poisonous too just doesn't seem fair .

1. Turkey

Two Places I Will Not Have Sex No Matter Who It Is

2. In a building where anyone in my family is

1. A bathroom no matter how clean

Weirdest Things I Don't Get But Will Comply With

2. Being whipped

1. Being handcuffed

Most Popular Things To Buy With a Fortune That Don't Interrest Me

2. Expensive luxury cars - sports cars I definitely understand on the other hand

1. Mansions - I'd actually rather have a regular house with a lot of land, maybe even a log cabin getaway on the side somewhere. Now a castle deep in the woods would be pretty cool though, I could get with that for sure.

Turkey, really? so sweet

But bathroom is good for sex... saying this, any place is good for sex when sex is good :evil:

And absolutely agree with you on Zuzana and those two things to buy when having lots of money. I never really got the idea of buying luxury cars - it seems so impractical and McMansions (as I was told they are called ) too... lot of land and a small house, what more can one long for

Love the top 2s

No explanation for the turkey?

Yeah, if someone less talented than you is giving their all, that's a sure sign that you need to haul arse . Good point about insiring passion in the fans too since its easier to relate to someone you think loves the game as much as you than someone just doing it only for a pay check and or because they can . My next step needs to be to choose a team. Along the theme of seeing how guys develop physically, I think I might just pick and support the worst team and see how they go from there.

Perfect choice then - you can go for the new Giants team being introduced this year

The new team from last year came dead last, as everyone expected they would, despite having poached arguably the best player in the league to play for them

Even if the Turkey is dead Joe?