Joe > Average

Note: Extra large is bigger than big, but not huge. Small is not to be confused with regular sized as small is actually below the average size. Why are these two paired? Because they're both opposites that are different from the norm. Small is smaller than 'regular' and extra large is slightly bigger than what is generally labeled big. Anyway, to the fight.

Sports and Athletics

Extra large breasts are well noted for the potential of back problems. Now, there are specialized bras that can actually redistribute some of the 'work' and back and stomach exercises that can also take on some of the load. For the athlete (even though they have the resources to get the best of the aforementioned methods) though, they don't necessarily pull their own weight. Obviously Serena is a good example of one who has used a specialized bra and overcame said obstacle. She's been playing for over a decade and even after some said she was declining totally destroyed Sharipova in the Olympics. That said, one can still wonder if she would be even more effective if they were small. Sacha on the other hand (who obviously isn't in Serena's league talent wise) had a reduction (and lost her male fan base overnight). Small breasts allow more overall freedom of movement and thus women with small breasts are overall better at sports. Women who are good at sports (particularly the feminine ones) are sexy and thus small breasts get the win here.

Winner: Small

Pokies with a long sleeve shirt

Winner: Tie

Pokies with no sleeves

The pokies with no sleeves are most effective when the breasts stand at complete attention. Some extra large breasts are able to achieve this whereas almost all small breasts are able to. Women with small breasts are also far less likely to wear a bra in these situations with also adds to their case. If they were facing regular sized, medium sized or big, it would be more of a fight, but in this case...

Winner: Small

The Hand Bra

I think regular through big would probably beat both in this category. That said, both are still fairly strong anyway. Small has a wide range of versatility because one can more easily cover them and thus cover them in more ways. On the other hand, one may argue that extra large has to do more work to cover them and thus can show more creativity for that reason. Also because the extra large side has to actually hold them up to some degree, it creates slightly more of the bra effect.

Winner: Extra large

Doing things that emphasize the stomach

Nice abs are nice abs, but having smaller breasts by nature allows the abs to get more shine simply because they have more room to work with.

Winner: Small

The Squeeze Factor

Squeezability depends somewhat on the size of the hands as well. The extra large are easier to squeeze somewhat by default.

Winner: Extra large

General Touch Factor

Winner: Tie

First Glance Wow Factor

The extra large wins in first glance wow factor for a few reasons. For one, they can stand out in a wider range of clotes such as really baggy or too big ones. This is first glance wow factor as the wow factor may disappear upon closer inspection.

Winner: Extra Large

Long-term

With extra large, more than likely if a reduction surgery doesn't occur, gravity will catch up. There's a lot of extra larges that I personally think would be improved for going down to big or medium actually. As to the comparison though, someone who prefers small will get longer enjoyment just by virtue of the fact that (in terms of the gravity thing) they have a shorter way to fall. All in all, they're more likely to look the same as when you first saw them decades later.

Winner: Small

Topless View

With extra large breasts, you often never know what you're going to get on this one. Reliance on the bra for support varies as well as shape. Some are long and flat whereas others are round and perky. With small, there's less of a chance for a bad surprise in any case, so they take the lead on this one.

Winner: Small

Taste Factor

Extra large is more like a buffet whereas small is more like expensive food that you get a little of.

Winner: Tie

Overall

It was a good battle. The small technically didn't have any real disadvantages whereas the extra large is somewhat more rare (in a woman with a flat stomach) and finished strong in some areas. I'm not sure whether small would beat 'regular' or whether extra large could beat medium or big, but I found them to be an interesting

match for each other. Both will continue to battle to the death until other arguments are found or once takes the other down.

I think it's 5-2-4 Joe, meaning small breasts won or maybe I got the artithmetics wrong

I neglected to disclose the specifics of how many points each category was worth, margin of victory in each and such . Of course, that was just off the top of the head, I was actually putting serious thought in to favorite runway models. So far, I haven't come up with the right formula. Some have a good walk and others presence. There are others who have a signature walk and others who have a good yet generic walk and others that just copied someone else's. Some have a nice walk and no presence. Off the top of my head, I think Naomi, Poly, Gisele, Cintia and Shalom excel in all areas. Of course, Gemma's no slouch there either. On the other end, I'm always surprised that Inguna seems to excel on the walk side in light of her uninspired editorial work. Of course, she still caries the same lack of range in expression, but the walk is smooth anyway. That alone probably shows where the walk ranks in the scheme of things since Sasha (being an inferior walker) is still a superior model by the merit of her editorial prowess. I always expected Tiue to be better too while on the other hand, Candice and Ana BB initially exceeded my expectations. That said, I think I just rambled myself in to the criteria . I guess it would be...

Quality and grace of walk x1

Uniqueness x2

Stage Presence x1

How well you exemplify the clothes themselves x1

That still doesn't give me a list though .

Myths About Gay People

That they all have AIDS

That all gay women are feminists

That every gay person of your gender is attracted to you

That they are all potential sex offenders - I don't find a straight stranger to be any more trustworthy with a child than a homosexual one.

That that they all love animals

Interesting question and the sports and broadway things were shameful omission indeed . That's much like they say women aren't into or not knowledgeable of sports despite the fact that when you look at the crowds of any major sport, you see tons of women cheering in the crowds ! I imagine its not all just to sit in awe of Cristiano and co.'s good looks anyway . Interesting and unfortunate story. As to where we are with that here, we are currently on a really huge gay sensitivity thing. The trend over here currently is that if you're famous and you say anything that can be seen as homophobic even on your 'Twitter' page (what I feel about the athlete 'tweeting' trend is a rant for another time) you will potentially lose endorsements and even be asked to go to 'therapy.' If you're an actor that isn't elite A list, you can all but kiss your career goodbye. With athletes, you can obviously still do your job if a team will take you even if the people hate you, but the media will make it hard on you. As to specific cases, though 'coming out' is somewhat trending now, we still don't see it as much in our most popular sports as we see in the arts. Players in the last ten years or so who have come out during their careers have been treated much better than fifteen to twenty years ago because of the aforementioned sensitivity trend. Its amazing how much has changed. Ellen's show was cancelled in the late 90s as a result of her 'coming out' whereas she not only has one of the most popular shows now, but saying anything negative about her now would likely be the end of your career . One notable case here though to me is Dennis Rodman (the greatest rebounder and one of the best defenders in NBA history). He never said that he was actually gay to my knowledge, but a lot of players during his career thought he was bisexual and were somewhat put off by him. Despite that, they embraced him anyway. He was even well documented as grabbing player's butts and balls (I think I had a picture of Larry Bird enduring both) as well as flirting with them to disrupt their play and get into their heads. Some seem to have a general discomfort in locker room situations. I've never been sure why there wasn't more privacy for millionaires anyway irrespective of the sexuality issues. I know I don't care for walking around naked in front of a bunch of guys whether they be gay, straight or in between. Some people even like to hold conversations in there . I've played with some gay players and overall, in my experience, the ones who were openly gay to start with and were actually good and who didn't flirt with the other players were well received. That seems to be the current trend over here it seems to me. Maybe it all boils down to the 'everyone loves a winner' idea. Hard rock and heavy metal fans have some of the most homophobic people you can find and yet many of the same ones will all but attack you if you say something about Freddie Mercury or Rob Halford. Some people then just need to get to know someone to get over their feelings. I know a man that used to be in the KKK until his half black grandson was born. Of course, he had put his daughter out of the family and will initially, but he said actually seeing the baby changed him. It could be the same with the gay thing with some. I can't help but add off the top of my head the myth that Germans are all either white supremist or racist. Though I would still say this without this fact, but it just so happens that more than one of my black family members as well as several other non whites I know say when they went to Germany, they were treated as well as anywhere they've been. Of course, I haven't been myself and this isn't a wide sample, but I would make the case anyway. Ironically too, it also so happens that the German members here (as a group) just so happen to have by far the widest range of tastes in models as well. There is also a stereotype that they're unusually competitive too. I wouldn't say all just by virtue of not being one to put absolutes on a group. As for the ones I've known though, if you get into a game of basketball with them, they won't let you go home until they win . Like I said, not a fan of absolutes and a small sample anyway.

^It is an oddity as in Argentina there's no question at all that women aren't sports-fans (of football in particular anyway, as that's the lifeblood). And women are represented, pretty much equally, at most all levels of it's reportage (the only thing I've not noticed is in live commentary). The gay situation is the same as in the UK though, it's not mentioned.

The 'arts' are different by their nature I suppose , in that it's always been an open-secret that many men involved are gay - and from the latter 20th century onward it is largely accepted, and the concept of being "out" became familiar. Artists, musicians, actors... It's only when you reach the heights of movie stardom that it becomes all secretive again. But, as we know Tom Cruise, Kevin Spacey, John Travolta NO male Hollywood star is gay - just doesn't happen! <_< Even Jodie Foster has only ever hinted, it's never been outright admitted.

That all said, I'm not sure why we need to assert our sexuality either way anyway - it's our business. I guess it's the fact that homosexuality remains taboo (and problematic for some who do come out), and is potentially financially ruinous for those in the public eye in particular when sponsorship and public approval are factored in?

Or take me, an asexual being with a fetish for Argentine Ukraine men. I don't think I owe anyone any explanation .

Disclaimer: Note that this is 10 things, not "The Top 10 Things" as that would likely offend some. Of course, this might too, but surely not as much .

I say 'likely as it is possible that someone may be able to explain some or maybe all. I know that there's obviously a racial or cultural barrier between myself and 99% of members and a nationality barrier between myself and 50% of members, so one might chalk it down to that. On top of that, one could say that its because of the fact that most people I know don't know too many active models in general. That said, I wouldn't agree with them because I'm not sure whether that has anything to do with any of these actually .

The request to have one's account closed or deleted - this is one I get several times a week. Actually, its the only pm I get now, so I probably shouldn't even check my pms. I don't see the point. Just leave if you want to. I don't tell them that because I hate to send them off like that, but come on. For some, maybe its a plea for me to beg them to stay, but after over a hundred of such, I don't have the energy. Even if you're afraid of 'wasting space' the site actually profits the more posts and members it has. The more posts and members a forum has, the more they can charge their advertisers. Either way, I've signed up to some forums just to disagree with someone and left. Let them do whatever it is they want to do with it afterward.

Having a model in one's avatar who is in several other trending ones - she would have to probably be my absolute favorite, not just one of my favorites. Even then, I would probably have to also have the

adrenaline of being so shocked and glad she actually caught on to fuel me to be part of the trend. Even if I were a fan of the current it girls, I'd be like, 'well, looks like you guys got that covered " unless it was a gif no one else had or a particularly awesome or unusual picture anyway. That brings me right into the next one...

How the 'it girls' are chosen - so far, there has never really been a BZ it girl that really did it for me on that level. The ones that really do it for me never really catch on though there have been some who almost got to it girl status who did do it for me, but their flame got put out before they became real BZ it girls. On the other side, there have maybe been a couple that were almost there for me, but not quite and their full blown it girl status actually depleted most of the interest I started with. There were a couple who weren't 'it' for me, but I could somewhat understand although those are the minority. The current it girls might be the most bland bunch for me yet although they don't have the one overtly creepy one that previous groups seem to mandate.

How the snippet from a paragraph or longer post is chosen - I'm aware that I'm pretty longwinded just like in regular life. That said (aside from talking to some real life friends on Youtube), I had never been active in a forum, so I never really learned how to adjust my way of talking for forum reading and don't expect anyone to read it all. Despite that, I never understood how people choose which part to quote. Fore example,

I got a new job after being laid off so long (expounds on that)' date=' but its hot out here[/quote'] the quote...

...its hot out here

Its hot here too!

I´ve read it all but I have no idea what to say. My mind has gone numb for the last two weeks.

Despite that, I never understood how people choose which part to quote. Fore example,

I got a new job after being laid off so long (expounds on that)' date=' but its hot out here[/quote'] the quote...

...its hot out here

I was going to go by country, but I guess I'll start with hair color...

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Assessments of red hair vary greatly. Some say they're ugly, some say its scary. At one point, some even though it meant they were witches. Some love it on the other hand. There are some that explain the popularity of blonde hair by saying it is rare, but ironically, red is the most rare in the world. Although full jet black is my favorite overall, I find red to be the most interesting natural color. Well, snow white is pretty good too. Some also have some pretty amazing tasting looking skin too. Anyway they weren't necessarily chosen for the quality of their hair as that would be a different list, but here they are anyway.

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Bandwidths exceeded. Although I obviously don't rely on pics, its kindof a bummer to have them disappear. Man, imageshack works quickly now . If anyone knows any full sized hosts other than Tinypic and Imageshack that are free, let me know .

Evening Joe!

Just wondering if you'd seen the new Canadian-made 'Primeval' spin-off yet? I wasn't keen at first, but I'm about five episodes in now and it's slowly but surely beginning to grow on me.
 
 

The failure of 70% of American members, 90% of European members and 85% of the rest to grasp the meaning of my username .

It's 'greater than average', right? Or am I setting myself up for some kind of weird and hideously ironic fall?

LOL , thanks for the vid .

That is the meaning. I know its so simple you might expect there to be something more . Maybe since the name Joe (I assume) is common in England as well it isn't as lost on the English. But then, its lost on most American members too. Either way, I figured the > < signs were a universal thing anyway though . Of course the tendency to miss subtleties of any kind is pretty universal too .

I was unaware, thanks for the info ! I can't really explain why I love the original so much. I can explain liking it of course as its a great concept and the characters are likeable even though some of the actors aren't the best and it isn't half the caliber of say Merlin, Fringe or Doctor Who. Speaking of such, since the Megaupload guy got taken away, I've become even more behind on both . When I see commercials advertising Merlin now, I turn the channel because I'm so far behind even the commercials are spoilers to me .

I was unaware, thanks for the info ! I can't really explain why I love the original so much. I can explain liking it of course as its a great concept and the characters are likeable even though some of the actors aren't the best and it isn't half the caliber of say Merlin, Fringe or Doctor Who. Speaking of such, since the Megaupload guy got taken away, I've become even more behind on both . When I see commercials advertising Merlin now, I turn the channel because I'm so far behind even the commercials are spoilers to me .

The original UK series was always billed as ITV's competitor to the BBC's Doctor Who, but while DW's production values have gone through the roof in recent years, Primeval's seem to have stayed exactly the same. It's still enjoyable though. It may be one of those shows you have to judge with a slight grain of salt, but it's always excellent fun.

Yeah, the Canadian one seems decent so far. It’s basically the same kind of deal as the UK version (scientist bloke loses his wife then dedicates his life to chasing dinosaurs), only it’s ever-so-slightly more adult orientated (there’s a bit more gore and the odd expletive sprinkled in) and just different enough to make it more than a straight-up rehash. Looks like you can watch entire episodes on YouTube too. For now though, here’s the trailer for your perusal...

Yeah, that is interresting about the consistency of the production values . LOL @ the 'bloke scientist' . Looks good to me . It is interesting that they are going with a more adult oriented approach when I must admit the PG oriented approach of the other one was part of what I found somewhat refreshing. That's not to say I find that mandatory as I enjoy American Horror Story ect. I don't know if you like detective shows or not, but have you by any chance seen any of the Elementary series? I'm still not slightly on the fence about the Sherlock. I am closer to like than dislike

. I think their attempt to make him 'modern' (in this case an arrogant, antisocial recovering drug addict) might have taken away of some of the charm that makes him interesting to me at least. I do love Liu as Watson though and like more than half of the episodes I've seen so far. As to Merlin too, I am still glad that its still going on. Over here, it debuted on a major network and was originally cancelled after a few episodes and I assumed I'd never see it again, so I'm glad its still around unlike some other shows that got cancelled without any closure .

^I can't take to this new Primeval at all - I appreciate the myriad financial aspects as to why this may have happened, but all the 'lore' appears to have been jettisoned (admittedly I have only watched eps 1&2 of the new show) and all those threads are now lost.

Also, the acting seems really bad...

Oh, and I fully expected to hate Elementary but would persevere due to Lucy Liu - but it turns out I quite enjoy it!

10 Things I'll Likely Never Understand About BZ Members

As you know firsthand, they not only give more credit to the thieves, but sometimes in the same thread . The more I see of Elementry, the more I like it. In contrast to the movie, they seem to focus more on Holmes' ability to discern actual clues rather than his Kung Fu skills . I'm also slowly starting to understand the Liu craze more as I didn't really get it before.

Of course I know you (along with Mike*, Layla and Jennks) read these essays (which were of course not meant to be, but I guess my speaking style just transfers over somehow) and that we've talked about all this in PMs, but I just wanted to put it all on the record. Actually my longest posts (at least relative to words per subject, that's not to say number of subjects in the same post) are probably from thread editing, but some may not respond to those out of the mistaken impression that I would actually punish someone for disagreeing with me despite the fact that of the hundreds of punishments I've dished out, that hasn't been the cause of a single one. Its definitely a great gig and I can't blame anyone for taking it. I think Behati is the only one for me who has been able to 'overcome' the VS thing. Maybe since she has kept her own identity she was able to stay interesting rather than just become a part of 'blonde ambition' or whatever. I really hope to see her doing more speaking oriented things because she originally won me over with the chalk board skit, but at the time I was so amazed at how terrible the other models involved were in it that I couldn't appreciate it fully. Seeing her acting and interviews more suddenly changes my ideas about my comparisons to her and Candice though. I used to think that Candice was undeniably the more sensual because of the sensual pout or whatever, but now it seems to me that her sensuality (though great somewhat by default of having pretty eyes and lips while trying) seems somewhat more contrived whereas Behati's seems somewhat more organic by comparison. That's not to say its a competition, but them both being in your top three at some point, in VS and from the same country probably made me compare them subconsciously at some point.

I think it's worth noting also, that from a selfish fan's point of view, a VS contract is good news because it promises a steady stream of reasonably high quality new pictures (mostly in lingerie/swim no less :brows:), and also the possibility of other crap like tv ads, behind the scenes, candids, and the beast that is the VSFS. It's not really a surprise it's so popular around here purely because of how ubiquitous it is. It's quantity over quality you might say - while the work outside VS is almost always more interesting, it's never with the same regularity or accessibility.

You get the best of both worlds though with cameo girls like Marloes and Edita who never let it get in the way of their other work